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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds

Ryu Shimazu

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^ As in this is Brawl, the second coming. Or Mortal Kombat is? I've not looked into MK at all, it didn't really interest me.

Been to busy to play, but my Spiderman Keychain came in today. ( Spidey from this game made me buyyy it)

And lol @ Sent having practically the same HP as Spiderman.

That makes no sense in the Marvel universe, just sayin'.
 

Gates

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inb4 everyone moves to Mortal Kombat
LMAO nobody's THAT desperate. I mean at least they TRIED to make MvC3 a fighting game, unlike MK where they developers just wanted to make a party game from the start.

And gates, even against dp is being able to deal wit her imo.
Speak English god dammit.

Oh, and you know what's ********? Phoenix's Healing Field.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXOmpwph_Ns&t=2m20s
How the **** do you get healed during a combo? That's so dumb. Say what you want about X-Factor's healing and how it negates chip etc. at least is doesn't give you an automatic health shield that lets you survive **** that you shouldn't.
 

Big-Cat

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Weren't the Sentinels commonly destroyed in the 90's X-Men cartoon?
 

Gates

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I'm starting to see a pattern here.

Melee to Brawl: Peach and Sheik get nerfed, the game as a whole is majorly dumbed down to the point of being a joke.
SSFIV to AE: Dhalsim and Rufus get nerfed, Gen doesn't improve, Yun and Yang break the game.
BBCT to CS to CS2: Nu gets removed and replaced with a nerfed version of her and then gets nerfed again.
MvC2 to MvC3: Cable is removed from MvC3 entirely, most of the other zoning characters suck, and Sentinel, the only good zoning character in the game, gets nerfed with a patch 5 weeks after release and is now borderline unplayable.

I think this is some kind of karmic thing to get me to quit fighting games.
 

Iron Dragon

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BS4xnqf5so&feature=related

I'm starting to see a pattern here.

Melee to Brawl: Peach and Sheik get nerfed, the game as a whole is majorly dumbed down to the point of being a joke.
SSFIV to AE: Dhalsim and Rufus get nerfed, Gen doesn't improve, Yun and Yang break the game.
BBCT to CS to CS2: Nu gets removed and replaced with a nerfed version of her and then gets nerfed again.
MvC2 to MvC3: Cable is removed from MvC3 entirely, most of the other zoning characters suck, and Sentinel, the only good zoning character in the game, gets nerfed with a patch 5 weeks after release and is now borderline unplayable.

I think this is some kind of karmic thing to get me to quit fighting games.
Uhhh who says there isn't good zone characters?

lol @ AE yun and yang breaking the game even though Fei Long is said to be the best. Really the biggest difference in AE and between all the games starting from SF4 and now to AE, is that fireball characters are becoming weaker/less prominent. so really all thats happening is arcade edition is going to be like 3rd Strike. and knowing that everyone and their mom loves that game(for what reason i have no idea), i'm surprised you wouldn't be happy with something such as that.
lol @ MvC3 being borderline unplayable just because you dont get what you want.

EDIT: @Ryu Shimazu- Haha do you mean the vid I posted? Yeah it's pretty cool :p
 

choknater

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lol

the nerf doesnt really affect me that much, just makes it easier. i always think in terms of the stuff i use LOL!

thats such a crazy health nerf though

still

his damage output is the same

but yah

poor sent
 

Pikaville

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It's just annoying the way he is the only character they "balanced".

Also Zero man gg's.

Some epic matches right there.
 

Gates

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"Juggs just got off house arrest and I just ****ed She-Hulk and I ****ed around and got the gout but it's cool cause I ****ed her in the ear and gave her hearing aids cause I'm the Juggernaut *****!"
Classic.

Uhhh who says there isn't good zone characters?
Arthur sucks.
Chris sucks.
MODOK sucks.
Amaterasu, Doom, Dormmamu, Deadpool, Morrigan, Ryu, and Phoenix are more balanced than zoning, even though they can zone (and of those characters, Ryu sucks and the rest are pretty meh).

Zoning in general is just a terrible strategy in this game since every character that doesn't suck had:

A. An airdash.
B. A teleport.
C. Multiple jumps.
D. Invincible moves.
E. All or most of the above.

Increased mobility in games just generally leads to decreased viability in zoning. That's why in a lot of airdash fighters the zoning characters aren't that great unless they have ******** damage.

lol @ AE yun and yang breaking the game even though Fei Long is said to be the best.
Japan thinks Fei is the best because they hadn't been playing on console for a long time and now they have to deal with him as a new character. Remember when Justin beat Daigo with Fei Long because Daigo didn't know the matchup against console characters? Every American player whose gotten their hands on the game have said that, though Fei is very good, Yang and Yun are the most centralizing characters in the game.

Really the biggest difference in AE and between all the games starting from SF4 and now to AE, is that fireball characters are becoming weaker/less prominent. so really all thats happening is arcade edition is going to be like 3rd Strike. and knowing that everyone and their mom loves that game(for what reason i have no idea), i'm surprised you wouldn't be happy with something such as that.
That's the thing though. When I play SFIV, I want to play SFIV, with its focus attacks and its Ultras and its scrubby inputs and everything. If I wanted to play 3rd Strike, I'd just play 3rd Strike. Capcom seems to be in this mentality that the best way to cater to hardcore fans is to exploit nostalgia by making unpopular games more like popular games. They did this with SFIV making it like ST, then they took a step forward and found a pretty good balance with SSFIV (aside from the low tiers), but with AE they're taking a step back and trying to emulate 3S. This is even more pointless since 3S Online should be coming out within the next year or so (I assume), which means that people will have easy access to 3S anyway.

lol @ MvC3 being borderline unplayable just because you dont get what you want.
No, I meant Sentinel is unplayable, not the game as a whole. I'll probably keep playing, but I really doubt I'll enjoy it that much and my interest will probably just die out over time, like with BB.

stay free
 

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so

are there people out there who use hsien ko invincibility on point?

god, i used it last time i played. it's so good.
 

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most people are saying it is too much. i think i agree, but i dont have enough exp in the game to say.

he was beatable at his standard health, and even had hard counters.

mvc series is supposed to be crazy broken, so it's kinda sad that this patch happened. people are just gonna find other stuff to abuse, that's what marvel's all about.
 

Pikaville

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Why does every fighting game ruin my favorite characters at some point? :(

Next they are gonna wreck Akuma or something.
 

Hitman JT

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If anyone else gets the nerf bat it'll be Jean and her PMS episodes.
I find it weird that they got rid of the Haggar/Spencer glitch and Akuma's tatsu infinite but the Zero glitch is still there
 

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If anyone else gets the nerf bat it'll be Jean and her PMS episodes.
I find it weird that they got rid of the Haggar/Spencer glitch and Akuma's tatsu infinite but the Zero glitch is still there
Highly unlikely to happen. They can't adjust Dark Phoenix's X-Factor without severely crippling Phoenix's chance at an X-Factor comeback in comparison to the rest of the cast.
 

Minato

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Arthur sucks.
Chris sucks.
MODOK sucks.
Amaterasu, Doom, Dormmamu, Deadpool, Morrigan, Ryu, and Phoenix are more balanced than zoning, even though they can zone (and of those characters, Ryu sucks and the rest are pretty meh).

Zoning in general is just a terrible strategy in this game since every character that doesn't suck had:

A. An airdash.
B. A teleport.
C. Multiple jumps.
D. Invincible moves.
E. All or most of the above.
I actually think Ryu isn't all that bad. He punishes hard with hadouken into Shinkuu.
He can outzone characters pretty well unless the opponent can zone as well.
I think keepaway's underrated so far in MvC3. I do agree that teleport characters get past it way too easily though.

And I was going to say you forgot Hsien-Ko as a "zoner" but I forgot she's really an assist character lol.
so

are there people out there who use hsien ko invincibility on point?

god, i used it last time i played. it's so good.
I don't go for it much anymore. It's pretty good, but the opponent just runs away from me. Eventually I'll be out of meter which is bad. And considering Hsien-Ko is on point after Zero is dead, that's a really bad situation since that will usually mean I'm losing. lol

As for the nerf, lowering Sent's health is good, imo. 1 million would've been fine though.
They should've nerfed X Factor and buffed some small things like making Hsien-Ko faster lol. I don't want any real nerfs though for awhile.
 

Scamp

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I can't possibly see how Sent could be considered even with Dark Phoenix.


Honestly, I don't see the Sent nerf being that bad. He still has one of the best assists in the game. You can still DHC to his yellow puffball for massive damage. And he can still come in as the anchor, X-factor level 3, and proceed to wipe out your entire team if you guess wrong upon entering.

The only place I see it hurting is either having him on point (which I think is bad anyway) or those instances where he gets put in so the other characters can heal.

And, of course, it sucks for Phoenix teams that would get five bars even if they were getting perfected before Phoenix came in just because Sent had so much life.

It is going to take a little time to get used to the fact that I can now super/X-factor/super and kill Sent if he's called in as an assist with full life.
 
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