Trigun Mafia (GAME OVER! TOWN WINS! Night Actions/Results/PMs posted!)

[Ronike]

I totally spaced on it being labor day weekend, so I buy Chill's excuse, though I dont like it as he is our main suspect. A deadline extension would be greatly appreciated, otherwise oh well...

Plus, I agree with what Eor says about not getting on a compy on vacation. My issue was I didn't buy him going on vacation, which I do now, so scratch my earlier post.

 

[commonyoshi]

I'm just throwing this out there.

Who else thinks KevinM is suspicious? I do.

He doesn't post very much. Barely contributes to the discussion, but does arrive to defend himself... yeah, not much but this is why we're have a deadline now, right? Because we dont have much.

Ok, first thing's first. This was a trap intentionally set up for Chill. It doesn't seem like it worked though so we'll just never speak of this ever again.

Agreed with everything said about Chill, especially the bandwagoning parts. That's the main reason I'm suspicious of him. Glad to see Kada's post has brought attention to it.

Vote: Chill
But could we push back the deadline?

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

17th Official Vote Count

Chill (4): Jiano, Spam_master, DiamondFalcon, Commonyoshi
Ronike (1): Chill
Eorlingas (1): Ligolski

It takes 8 to lynch.

I'm pushing the deadline back to 6:00 P.M. E.S.T. Thursday.

And camo-man asked me to post this for him, since he's having some posting problems or something.

...I have already 100%ed a run and am on a vet speed run... and Im posting more than you...
GET BETTER AT VIDEO GAMES MAN!!!!

I'm just a real Metroid game nub... ;_; I get stuck so easy and there's these missile expansions I can see but not reach... I'm good at Metroid Prime Hunters online though. You remember that, don't you? >=)

I also sent a message to Riciardos about replacing Gotmink. Response is pending.

 

[Kada]

Alright, I had a really unexpected leave of absense last night, and that Smashfest I was going to have last Sunday was moved until today. I got second place =P.

Glad to see the deadline pushed back. Since I've been playing Smash for more than 20 hours straight (recorded 46 matches the night before with my friend.) I REALLY need to get a good night sleep.

I'll be back in business tommorow. Also, glad to see that at least some of my post brought up something interesting ^_^

 

[Mediocre]

I'm back, and caught up.

If anyone has any continuing suspicions about me that they'd like me to address, I'll do so if they bring them to my attention directly.


I agree with the group that Chill is acting in a very scummy way, but I can't help but wonder why he'd act the way he has, whether he's town or mafia. It's really a very sloppy playing style, and I've always found Chill to be a very intelligent person. His actions don't seem to match that intelligence, no matter what his alignment.

I'm definitely considering voting to lynch Chill, but I think I'll wait until he can offer a defense before making a decision either way. If he doesn't come back and defend himself before the deadline, I will vote for his lynch.

 

[KevinM]

Back(somewhat...i'm in that whole <_< stage) i have catching up to do as well but i've been keeping an eye on it when i can so i'll post my thoughts when i come on tomorrow something

 

[ligolski]

ok i am back and i think that Chill is our best bet at this point in the stage...he has acted the most suspicious and will now vote him as well...he has always seemed to post very spaced out and is always voting around those posts...to me this means a lurker, waiting to prey upon an easy lynch perhaps...

vote: chill

 

[Rici]

Frozen! Send me my role already! .

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Riciardos replaces GotMink effective immediately.

 

[Rici]

Lol, yup, that's right. But I'll need a little time to catch up with the 2nd day(I did follow the first day though), so I'll get back to you guys pretty soon.

 

[Mediocre]

Can people stop voting for Chill until he gets back from vacation?

 

[Ronike]

Can people stop voting for Chill until he gets back from vacation?

I agree, we need to wait til he gets back at least so he can defend himself better. Thats why we had the deadline pushed back people!

 

[DiamondFalcon]

Yeah, he said he'll be back tonight. Let's see what he has to say for himself.

 

[ligolski]

i forgot that he went away for the weekend...i'll keep my vote for now though, i want a reason for what i posted earlier

 

[camo-man]

What day is he coming back again?

 

[Chill]

Today.

I already talked about this here

http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=2835059&postcount=1064

I'm not really sure why I'm suspicous as I've given reasons for my all of my votes. Some claims like band wagoning are completely false as I've been the first or only person to vote for some people. I can't always have the first vote you know and I will occasionally agree with other people. Commonyoshi on Ronike for example.

Wether you unvote me or not I highly suggest you go back and read the topic. Some of these posts are highly ridiuculous. At the very list search the topic for a certain poster (even if it's me) and read all of their posts.

I won't point fingers as that's always seen as suspicous when you have votes on yourself but you will be doing yourself a favor.

 

[Jiano]

What was your motive behind jumping on almost every bandwagon that happened? Is it some kind of strategy I'm not seeing or what? I know you're not the only person who does this, but you actually seem to know what you're doing in mafia so it worries me a bit.

You've posted twice and didn't answer my question. Reposting it in case you missed it.

Some claims like band wagoning are completely false as I've been the first or only person to vote for some people.

This doesn't make sense. You've been on at least 4 or 5 bandwagons, how can you say that?

 

[spam_master]

He's truth bending, look at SPMII, it's the exact same thing eor did the whole game.

 

[Chill]

This doesn't make sense. You've been on at least 4 or 5 bandwagons, how can you say that?

I can't always have the first vote you know and I will occasionally agree with other people. Commonyoshi on Ronike for example.

Dude, I just posted that.

As for being on a bandwagon I'd have to go and look at my post 'cause we've been playing this game for weeks now.

 

[Mediocre]

I can't always have the first vote you know and I will occasionally agree with other people. Commonyoshi on Ronike for example.

Dude, I just posted that.

As for being on a bandwagon I'd have to go and look at my post 'cause we've been playing this game for weeks now.

My main problem with you is not that you're agreeing with people on who to lynch. It's that you've been doing so while giving very little reasoning for your votes.

Now, that doesn't make sense to me, because I see that as the mark of either a dumb mafia player, or a dumb town player. I don't think you're either, because I've interacted with you for quite a while now, and you're definitely not stupid.

So, what are you doing? I can't figure it out. Is this part of some bizarre plan you've come up with, a la Pythag, where you just vote with next to no reasoning? I doubt it. Are you just being lazy? That seems the most possible, but you seem to put quite a bit of effort into the Thing, so I'm not sure why it should be any different for this game?

I don't think that you're mafia, but for the life of me I can't figure out why you're playing the way you are.

 

[Eor]

He's truth bending, look at SPMII, it's the exact same thing eor did the whole game.

A total lie, and just proves to show that despite your apparent confidence, you still have no idea what words you are saying. Truth bending? I either lied or said the truth.

I see nothing of myself in any of Chill's post, and as I am me, I'm pretty sure I'd be able to notice it

Point in Chill's post where he "bends the truth"

 

[Eor]

I'm not going to lie, Ligolski and Jiano are my most suspicious people right now, and the fact that they both voted for Chill is destroying any suspicion I'd have on him.

I'm keeping my vote on Ligolski that Frozen hasn't counted in a while

 

[spam_master]

Your probably right that you did more liring than truth bending, it's more that it had the appearance of the truth and was based in the truth but was in fact a lie. We have diffrent opinions on the dfinition of truthbending.

I defined chills comment of not being always able to be the first to vote on someone, which thereby disregarded his bandwagons to be the same as when you said tht evryone is equal in a vote therebye disregarding your repeated voting for town members.

 

[Sanjuinuthus]

I'll sign up as replacement.

 

[Chill]

My main problem with you is not that you're agreeing with people on who to lynch. It's that you've been doing so while giving very little reasoning for your votes.

I haven't given any reason for my votes? I just listed a summary of all my votes and why I made them. As I pointed out if you are only looking at Jianos post it doesn't show any of the post without votes.

For example.

I too had forgotten about the family situation.

I'm voting for Pythag. He hasn't contibuted much and when he recently voted he gave no reason for doing so.

unvote: Blazer

vote: Pythag

I give reasoning here but maybe it's not enough for you.

After posting this camo and eor made the following posts.

http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=2640585&postcount=417
http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=2640617&postcount=418

I then said this http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=2640747&postcount=419

Of course you don't see anything like this in Jianos post against me. If you don't feel that is enough I can't help it.

 

[DiamondFalcon]

The fact is, that was not a good enough reason to lynch him over. My vote on you stays. This lax attitude of "well, my meager reasons worked for me, I'm sorry that it wasn't enough" isn't helping your defense any. Although I understand that it was only Day 1, the life of a townie was at stake. It's not like there was no counter defense for Pythag...

 

[Chill]

I said I wouldn't do this but going through this topic and reading has brought some things to my attention. If I don't say anything it's going to drive me crazy.

First of all read Jianos post against me before you even read mine. Most of what he is saying is in direct conflict with what I posted. Jiano quotes my vote against Blazer and labels it as

Bandwagons onto Blazer.

Does anyone remember why we voted for Blazer? He was inactive and we tried to get him active by voting for him. It even says in the post that is quoted that I will unvote him when he says something.

Once other people back off Blazer, Chill also unvotes and goes after Pythag

Remember why we unvoted Blazer? We had forgotten that he was inactive due to his family situation. It wasn't just me it was everyone.

Same with agentli, we voted for him to get him active again. As before you can see that I say this in my post. Agentli was even replaced by Jiano for being inactive.

This makes me wonder if you ,Jiano, are even reading this topic. I'm also worried that the people who were so quick to vote for me are not even reading the topic either. Don't just read what Jiano said when he wrote his post. Read what I said and you can see that what he said isn't true. Voting for inactives to get them active does not equal bandwagon voting. Especially when I say I will unvote them. :/

 

[Chill]

That's not really a reason for voting him...

What if it's part of his role? And in Day 1s, not much can be contributed by anyone. =/

The fact is, that was not a good enough reason to lynch him over. My vote on you stays. This lax attitude of "well, my meager reasons worked for me, I'm sorry that it wasn't enough" isn't helping your defense any. Although I understand that it was only Day 1, the life of a townie was at stake. It's not like there was no counter defense for Pythag...

That was kind of the point I was trying to make. I didn't feel that three paragraphs of reasoning was "meager" which is why I "if that's not enough I can't help it". I feel that 3 paragraphs is more than suffiecient an explaning a vote.

The counter arguement was coming from you and I didn't have a reason to believe either of you. If you really feel that way about Pythag then why are you so apt to agree wsith Jiano? After everyone unvoted Pythag you do remember who restarted the voting process on him don't you?

 

[Chill]

Ignore the camo-man post. I hit mulitquote when trying to link to his post.

 

[smashman90]

Then why the hell did you vote on me for?

 

[Blazer]

I said I wouldn't do this but going through this topic and reading has brought some things to my attention. If I don't say anything it's going to drive me crazy.

First of all read Jianos post against me before you even read mine. Most of what he is saying is in direct conflict with what I posted. Jiano quotes my vote against Blazer and labels it as



Does anyone remember why we voted for Blazer? He was inactive and we tried to get him active by voting for him. It even says in the post that is quoted that I will unvote him when he says something.



Remember why we unvoted Blazer? We had forgotten that he was inactive due to his family situation. It wasn't just me it was everyone.

Same with agentli, we voted for him to get him active again. As before you can see that I say this in my post. Agentli was even replaced by Jiano for being inactive.

This makes me wonder if you ,Jiano, are even reading this topic. I'm also worried that the people who were so quick to vote for me are not even reading the topic either. Don't just read what Jiano said when he wrote his post. Read what I said and you can see that what he said isn't true. Voting for inactives to get them active does not equal bandwagon voting. Especially when I say I will unvote them. :/

You didn't vote me for innactivity. You voted me for not being serious about the game.

vote: Chill

BTW, I apologize for my absence this past weekend. I was with a friend and had not time to get on a computer.

 

[ligolski]

ok chill, yes jiano restarted the vote process on pythag but he had just entered and read everything and posted his opinions...i see nothing wrong in that...that day went on forever and we needed to move on and most decided that pythag was their vote...

 

[Chill]

You didn't vote me for innactivity. You voted me for not being serious about the game.

vote: Chill

Ok? When did I say that? I did make that post nearly two months ago so I could be wrong but I don't think I voted you for not being serious about the game. And if I had why is that wrong?

@ligolski, I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. DF, said I was suspicous for wanting to lynch Pythag I was saying if he found me suspicous than why not Jiano who voted him for the same reasons? Hence the "I love you Jiano" post.

Geeze, if you guys think I'm so suspicous even after pointing out where you are clearly wrong than the cop can investigate me tonight.

 

[Blazer]

Ok? When did I say that? I did make that post nearly two months ago so I could be wrong but I don't think I voted you for not being serious about the game. And if I had why is that wrong?

@ligolski, I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. DF, said I was suspicous for wanting to lynch Pythag I was saying if he found me suspicous than why not Jiano who voted him for the same reasons? Hence the "I love you Jiano" post.

Geeze, if you guys think I'm so suspicous even after pointing out where you are clearly wrong than the cop can investigate me tonight.

I was simply correcting you, and yes that's why I was voted on "I wasn't contributing". My voye is more because of the reasons stated by others.

 

[Chill]

I do not see that sentence in my post. If your going to vote for me because something someone else said that's fine. But voting me for something that isn't true? I don't understand that.

Unless there is some gaping hole in my explanations that I'm not seeing it seems like you guys have already decided to vote for me and I can't change that.

I only ask to be investigated because we're going to lose two town members in a row and that's going to suck.

 

[KevinM]

Is it to early to ask for a name claim from Chill? A part of me wants to believe him at this point.

Just my two cents...

 

[Blazer]

"Does anyone remember why we voted for Blazer? He was inactive and we tried to get him active by voting for him. It even says in the post that is quoted that I will unvote him when he says something."


It's this sentence. I didn't do quotes cause' I'm lazy btw.

 

[Chill]

Blazer, that post does not say that I voted you for not being serious about the game.

???

 

[KevinM]

Blazer what are you trying to prove, just wondering?

 

[KevinM]

With that sentence i mean.. whew almost hit the edit button