Trigun Mafia (GAME OVER! TOWN WINS! Night Actions/Results/PMs posted!)

[DiamondFalcon]

Hey I've got an idea.

How about everybody posts the names of their top two suspects. Even if your not really sure just post whatever you got.

Tuff choice but I'm gonna go with Blazer and Kevin

I still think if we do this, we can gather some info, even if it doesn't result in a lynch.

My suspects: KevinM, and Blazer as well, though Ronike and Mediocre are pretty close.

 

[smashman90]

That's strange because your girlfirend told me your evidence wasn't very firm. BURN

Spam, that wasn't a burn or even a good one at that. You phail at burning.

 

[Ronike]

*sigh* I really wish people would tell us reasons...

For what reason do you think Camo is scummy agent? Oh yeah, and
unvote:blazer

Yeah, Pythag is really not contributing at all thus far, nor is he telling us reasoning. Ive warned him many a time, and frankly Im getting sick of it, but Ill give you one more chance. Ecplain yourself within 24 hours, or Im voting on you.

lol camo man. Im not sure if I buy the "try something new", but you have shown you are at the VERY least, reasonably intelligent, and what you were doing is so radically different and just stupid, that I suppose that reason is somewhat believable. Just dont do it again.

Well first off, the 24 hour notice thing is my sterner way of warning. You know how you know its a warning? CAUSE I DIDNT VOTE ON HIM AND DIDNT WHEN HE DEFENDED HIMSELF! Look back to other games, you'll see I use it a lot and its not something new. But what that post really shoulda said was "WE had given you enough warnings", cause everyone was *****in about it, and Pythag wasnt listening.

Me saying I warned him many a time is called exageration. Its a condition I unfortunately suffer when I get excited when I type. It happens a lot, including when I said Spam fell under "Megasuspiscion" and stuff like that. I just tend to add stuff like that to my posts when I get excited.

As for saying nothing about Kada, I felt that other people were saying it enough that me saying it would make it redundant. Plus, if you read what I actually posted, you will see that I said "BEGINNING to bug me". Not "Has been bugging me but I havent said it so now Im goin to pointlessly vote on you". Hell I didnt even vote on him. ITS A WARNING! I wouldnt even have followed up on it if we had had some good conversation like this goin on. Hell, I wouldnt have even said it if we had had some good conversation. But we had nothing at the time, so it seemed like we were gonna go after inactives, so I said that.

Oh and Spam, at least I have evidence. BURN!

 

[commonyoshi]

Ok, that thing about Kada seems to be bringing the flames of hell down upon me, so allow me to explain why I did it: Incentive for Kada.
Its just like the threats I do in other games when someone is inactive. Im just letting him know that if he doesn't start being active or at least give reason for being inactive when he specifically said he would be active, Im gonna consider that lurking, which is suspiscious, and vote on him. First off, one vote's not gonna do a lot, second of all, if he became active, I would unvote, so chill guys.

Please go through the Kingdom Hearts Mafia thread and find ten posts you've made warning people for being innactive and some where you voting on them because of it. It really shouldn't be that hard since that game was filled with innactives the whole game through.

This is just to check wether you've always been like this like you said.

Because I thought he was scummy. I didnt like his anger, and I didnt like that he took my vibes thing RIGHT AFTER I SAID IT and tried to use it, just without evidence, and his gloating irritated me.

I understand your point about gloating. That could be him defending someone he knew was screwed yet innocent and announcing he was right as a strategy. But I cant read his mind so I'm not going to go through a whole bunch of maybe situations. It's a guessing game, and I dont want to play.

Dont care about the anger thing.

"took my vibes"... It's like you're accusing him of stealing. This is something which has irked me for a whole too. You combine your accusation of voting without reason with "stealing" to cast more doubt on him. Meh, I dont know if it was intentional or just flavorful writing, something I do too, but I thought I should mention it because that's what first came to my head.

My statement there was a valid one.

I agree, but this goes along with what I said above about how people will "predict" things they already know to be true to make themselves look good in front of the town.

Im not going after Kada. Like I said, incentive. If I was going after him, why wouldnt I have voted him? And if the "another inactive" thing is refering to the post above it, that was going after Spam, so if thats what you meant, way to twist my words. Regardless of what you think, Ive only gone after one inactive: Kada, and I really havent gone after him.

The innactive you were going after was KevinM. I didn't twist your words.

And the last post you made about Spam Master you said you were still suspicious of him but unvoted because no one was following you with your accusations. "I've got my eye on you." Now you practically say you dont suspect him, but that your accusations were "long past". Contradiction!

But I do know I've been posting a lot of situational evidence on you with a lot of maybes so I'm cutting you some slack. I'm mostly interested in the innactive thing and your sudden change of heart with Spam Master.

 

[commonyoshi]

Darn it. Should have proof read to clarify some things in the above post. Lousy no editing rule.

Hell I didnt even vote on him. ITS A WARNING! I wouldnt even have followed up on it if we had had some good conversation like this goin on. Hell, I wouldnt have even said it if we had had some good conversation. But we had nothing at the time, so it seemed like we were gonna go after inactives, so I said that.

You dont have to vote on someone for it to be malicious. It's not like there's an invisible line you cross once you vote for someone.

Also, going after an innactive... I cant decide if that's suspicious or not. In a way, yes, but in another way, no. If I'm bored enough I would do it too.

 

[ligolski]

after a quick read over here at the hotel i am very unsure about ronike, his attitude is a little different but people change and its not that big of a change imo...

and without being able to spend too much time quoting and ripping this and that apart or agreeing with other things i will list a few things...

a) spam's "burn" was uncalled for...and i don't like it though i can't do anything about it
wait...i have to quote one thing...

Dont care about the anger thing.

are you ****ing kidding me...do i have to go quote eor in SPM2..........its these emotional changes that we have to look out for...ronike is definetly getting angry like eor did and it raises my suspicions and spam seems to get angry and frustrated a lot but i can't tell anything about that cuz he seems to play that way...but that means we have to keep a better eye on him as well cuz he can hide behind play style

c) this whole stealing vibes idea imo is BS, its obvious imo he was joking...look at all the "!!!!" and caps...he voted spam cuz he had absolutely NO evidence...

d) the whole saying eor was targeted thing...i agree that it is fishy...it is a probable guess to say it was either me or eor...but it was eor...the fact that i was left out is the whole thing...i can't say i believe ronike...i can't read minds...but one thing is obvious now, FF is giving out night awareness info...as thats how eor knew he was targetted...

e) i don't remember ronike going after kevin...spam did...could someone quote that for me

well...i think thats all i wanted to say...hopefully i can post again soon

 

[commonyoshi]

But since Im on the topic now anyways, Kevin, get your *** active. Now. From what Ive seen so far, you've been lurking, which is a big no no.

Maybe "going after" is too harsh a phrase, but this was him calling out another innactive.

 

[Ronike]

Well, time to take apart posts. Im gonna do this to Liggy's too, but its on a seperate page, and thus too hard to use the multiquote button, so Ill do his separate.

Please go through the Kingdom Hearts Mafia thread and find ten posts you've made warning people for being innactive and some where you voting on them because of it. It really shouldn't be that hard since that game was filled with innactives the whole game through.

Ill get to work on it after I finish this. I doubt I can find ten, but Ill try and get it. It wasnt just inactives though, its just a warning before a vote. Tens a pretty massive number though.

I understand your point about gloating. That could be him defending someone he knew was screwed yet innocent and announcing he was right as a strategy. But I cant read his mind so I'm not going to go through a whole bunch of maybe situations. It's a guessing game, and I dont want to play.

Glad you understand, thats what I was saying completely. However, I run the maybes in my head, and post the most likely ones, so I think that that one is the most likely.

Dont care about the anger thing.

FAIL. Like Liggy said, look at what Eor did.

"took my vibes"... It's like you're accusing him of stealing. This is something which has irked me for a whole too.

God, you all are reading too far into that. It was just a joke! Its all in caps for christ sake. If the ENTIRE sentence is in caps, it means Im kidding! Plus, I even said in the next sentence I wasnt serious about it cause I said, "Ok seriously." I was pretty obviously kidding.

You combine your accusation of voting without reason with "stealing" to cast more doubt on him. Meh, I dont know if it was intentional or just flavorful writing, something I do too, but I thought I should mention it because that's what first came to my head.

Now again, I was just kidding, but its not entirely untrue to say I did it for colorful effect.

I agree, but this goes along with what I said above about how people will "predict" things they already know to be true to make themselves look good in front of the town.

Im sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense to me, the "predict" strategy. If you knew that, you'd have to be one of the people who targeted the person, and thus be scummy. Like I said, lucky informed guess. If I was mafia, I wouldnt have said anything about it.

The innactive you were going after was KevinM. I didn't twist your words.

Nope, I never really went after him. I said I didnt like his inactiveness, but never really did anything about it. This is all I ever said of it after Spam thought I meant I was suspiscious of Kevin:

I didnt say I got mafia Vibes from Kevin. I said you stole my vibes idea. I dont like that he is inactive, but it hasnt quite been enough yet to warrant a vote. But since Im on the topic now anyways, Kevin, get your *** active. Now.

And the last post you made about Spam Master you said you were still suspicious of him but unvoted because no one was following you with your accusations. "I've got my eye on you." Now you practically say you dont suspect him, but that your accusations were "long past". Contradiction!

Two reasons for this:
A) He hasnt done anything I will see as suspiscious. When people attack me, unless its repeated and without reason or other people see it as suspiscious, I wont suspect them because I think myself biased. So no, I dont really suspect him any more cause all hes done is attack me.
B) Ive been kinda busy defending myself to suspect him
C) Like I said before, Im trying the whole withholding info thing. Like I said, Im keeping my eye on him, but even if I had anything on him Id be withholding it to stop him from stopping himself from making the same mistake.

But I do know I've been posting a lot of situational evidence on you with a lot of maybes so I'm cutting you some slack. I'm mostly interested in the innactive thing and your sudden change of heart with Spam Master.

I thought you didn't like the "maybes"
But I think I explained myself sufficiently. The thing about warning Kada is in a different post, so just find it yourself.

Darn it. Should have proof read to clarify some things in the above post. Lousy no editing rule.

You dont have to vote on someone for it to be malicious. It's not like there's an invisible line you cross once you vote for someone.

True in some situations, but sometimes, like now, you have to vote for it to malicious. Im just warning him to be active WHEN HE SAID HE WOULD ANYWAY!!!! Its called having a reason not to go back on your word. Its a luxury I like to have, so I try and give it to other people when possible.

Also, going after an innactive... I cant decide if that's suspicious or not. In a way, yes, but in another way, no. If I'm bored enough I would do it too.

A) Yes, I was really uber bored.
B) I WASNT REALLY GOING AFTER HIM!!!!

Now... on to Liggy's!

 

[Ronike]

But before I do that, again, look at the whole thing and you'll see I really was just sayin it cause I got on the topic thru Spam and was just tellin him to get active.

 

[Ronike]

after a quick read over here at the hotel i am very unsure about ronike, his attitude is a little different but people change and its not that big of a change imo...

and without being able to spend too much time quoting and ripping this and that apart or agreeing with other things i will list a few things...

a) spam's "burn" was uncalled for...and i don't like it though i can't do anything about it
wait...i have to quote one thing...

If you are unhappy about it for my sake, dont be. I dont really care. I had something a lot meaner written, but I decided against it cause Ill be the bigger man here.

are you ****ing kidding me...do i have to go quote eor in SPM2..........its these emotional changes that we have to look out for...ronike is definetly getting angry like eor did and it raises my suspicions and spam seems to get angry and frustrated a lot but i can't tell anything about that cuz he seems to play that way...but that means we have to keep a better eye on him as well cuz he can hide behind play style

First part, I agree, thats what I was sayin before.
Second part, of course Im gettin rather angry and frustrated, people are recycling the same evidence even though I keep rebuking it with, what I see at least, as full, irrefutable answers.
Third part, I agree, thats why Im keepin an eye on him...

c) this whole stealing vibes idea imo is BS, its obvious imo he was joking...look at all the "!!!!" and caps...he voted spam cuz he had absolutely NO evidence...

True dat. Thats exactly what I was doin. In addition, like I said before, look at how the next sentence starts with "Ok but seriously". Another clear sign I was mostly kidding.

d) the whole saying eor was targeted thing...i agree that it is fishy...it is a probable guess to say it was either me or eor...but it was eor...the fact that i was left out is the whole thing...i can't say i believe ronike...i can't read minds...but one thing is obvious now, FF is giving out night awareness info...as thats how eor knew he was targetted...

LUCKY FREAKIN GUESS WITH SOME EDUCATEDNESS BEHIND IT!!! Why is that so hard to believe?

e) i don't remember ronike going after kevin...spam did...could someone quote that for me

Well, common and I both quoted the same thing. Really its me calling him on it, mostly for the purpose of telling him that I realize he is inactive and to show the others that he is inactive.

 

[commonyoshi]

Ah, good stuff. Just find some of those posts where you warn innactives, and I'll unvote. (I would probably do so right now, but I want to make you work for it. )

Didn't realize you saying Spam stealing your idea thing was a joke. I've been skimming a whole bunch and didn't see the !!!'s.

There are probably some things I could counter in your post, but it really isn't worth it considering my suspcions are pretty much eased right now. I still think Ronike changing his mind about Spam all of a sudden is iffy though.

And your rebutles aren't as irrefutable as you'd think. >_<

 

[Ronike]

I know they arent irrefutable, again, it was my attack of excited typing adding flavor. Im workin on the posts, but like I said, tens a big number and I dont just use it on inactives.

 

[Ronike]

Ok, I cant get direct quotes from KH, so Ill just put all the posts into one. Not in any particular order either.

1. unvote: common My vote is wasted here, common isnt getting lynched (though I still dont trust him), so Ill move on to others. Frozen is really masively lurking/inactive, so Frozen, I give you (use random number generator...) 5 days to come back

2. Yeah, like I said, when I made that post, I was exhausterated. I now have caffeine in me and am ready to go. Sorry about that. Nothing new though, if PoH doesnt show up by the end of the weekend, Im inclined to lynch him to get the game rolling

3.

Boredom>losing

I am willing to take a chance.

Well You are an idiot then, or you are just mafia. Seriously dude, why are you so adamant about a name claim if you are town? I wont vote you til you defend (or ignore it), but I am really suspiscious of you right now.

4. Agreed with uncle meat suspiscions. Three days til I vote on him, cause we are getting a number of people already. Didnt even think of beast, though he'd probably be town. Im nigh positive its simba though as his main attack is proud roar!

Three days later: Its been three days
vote: uncle meat
Though I'd like to wait for an event of some kind, I keep my word.

5. There is little point to witholding my vote anymore, but I have left no warning, so in four days I will cast my vote on either dot.com or jazzy, whoever needs it to be lynched

Ok thats it from KH, Im gonna take a little break and then look thru other games as well, cause Im pretty sure I did it some more, but maybe not. Actually, Im only gonna keep lookin if you guys dont think thats enough. Five is still quite a bit.

 

[SunJiano]

Holy metagaming.

Using other games as evidence is ridiculous and I can't believe common is seriously asking him to quote another game.

 

[Ronike]

No, in this case its not. Hes asking me to go back and find posts to show that I did indeed do as I say I did.

 

[SunJiano]

Ok, sorry, I must of misread.

 

[commonyoshi]

*slaps Jiano all around*

The whole Kada thing was where my suspicions were first raised. Good to know you've always been like that.

Unvote: Ronike

So unless some other people have any more accusations on Ronike... we move on, I guess. It's a shame this was settles with so few people getting involved. >_>

 

[KevinM]

I don't know what makes me most suspicious to Spam and DF.

And on the same note the fact that they continue to vote for me off nothing but a "gut" feeling it just plain ********.. why just through out shots in the dark honestly?

You haven't come out with a single solid peace of evidence against anyone, me or Blazer whom both of you are suspicious of AND HAVE been suspicious of all game. It just seems like a blind wanting, you're not looking at other options, you're just looking for me to appear as mafia. People have already realized that i'm not throwing out any scummy vibes, and the fact that you continue to try and make me defend myself is just stupid.

On a side note i think i can finally be active now, i've calmed down enough lifewise hah.

 

[KevinM]

**** it i hit the edit button

If anyone can check what i edited, the only thing i changed was lifewsie to lifewise...

Sorry frozen =(

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

16th Official Vote Count

Ronike (1): Chill
Eorlingas (1): Ligolski

It takes 8 to lynch.

Don't worry about it Kev, I read the original post in my email notification and it matches.

 

[spam_master]

Lol neither of us are voting for you anymore and I took my vote of you like two postst after I put it on. Btw, I still think your mafia, and blazer I'm just always suspicious of, I just think it's his avatar or something.

 

[spam_master]

Two reasons for this:
A) He hasnt done anything I will see as suspiscious. When people attack me, unless its repeated and without reason or other people see it as suspiscious, I wont suspect them because I think myself biased. So no, I dont really suspect him any more cause all hes done is attack me.
B) Ive been kinda busy defending myself to suspect him
C) Like I said before, Im trying the whole withholding info thing. Like I said, Im keeping my eye on him, but even if I had anything on him Id be withholding it to stop him from stopping himself from making the same mistake.

When have I been attacking you? Asie from my porrly constucted ED joke, ye I'll admit it sucked but what can you do, I have really gone after you. Your not even on my suspects list.

And, btw, I loved all three of your two reasons.

 

[Ronike]

Ok Ronike I'm tired of you saying that everyone is twisting your words. For some reason when you do it was a reading mistake and nobody rides you about it. But when someone else does it there is no possible way that it could have been a mistake and it had too have been malicious.

And. also if you showed ten people those last two posts 8 of em would probably think you were saying you said you had the same vibes for kvein as I did.

And I also like how you included the first post so nobody could use it against you.

That's strange because your girlfirend told me your evidence wasn't very firm. BURN

Maybe you need some cialis to help you ED (evidence dysfunction), but remember.....if you evidence stays firm for more than four pages consult a doctor.

*DEEP BREATH*

Sorry about that it was an uncontrollable urge.

These are all I meant and thats all you have really posted since I unvoted you. At least, thats all when I wasnt skimming. But anyways, yeah, I originally had two reasons, but came up with a third while I was typing, and just forgot to change it, so yeah. Blah.

 

[Blazer]

Apologies to for my league of absensce. I kinda got kicked out of my house and have been staying with a friend. I intend to return home tomorrow hopefully with internet access.

 

[KevinM]

Lol neither of us are voting for you anymore and I took my vote of you like two postst after I put it on. Btw, I still think your mafia, and blazer I'm just always suspicious of, I just think it's his avatar or something.

You still haven't given a valid reason, are you going to continue playing ******** off your gut or finally back it up with some kind of reasoning?

 

[DiamondFalcon]

See it's posts like that that trigger the "He's mafia" sensor. Neither of us is voting for you so we don't need a valid reason other than your posts seem to be posted with a scummish mindset.

 

[spam_master]

On second thought screw it, its not like he can give us anymore of an adequate response then he has the whole time, he's our best bet right now I'm throwing it out their right now after finally thinking it over

Vote Pythag

If you want something to back it up I didn't like your aww screw it approach to voting for pythag, those kinda of decisions when someone has so many votes shouldn't be made just because your board. If you aren't sure if someone is mafia but you want someone to die just becasue your board then you shoulnd't vote, you should vote for someone for one reason and one reason only... because you think theri mafia.

 

[spam_master]

And I know that was weak, but whatever I turned up anyway was invalid because i went looking for it specifically.

 

[KevinM]

Spam, i respect that now, the only reason i was getting mildly annoyed was because you just kept saying you were suspicious of me without a reason. Thanks for at least manning up with a response ^_^

 

[ligolski]

checking in and i don't have much to say...except for ronike's response to me on the spam ED thing...trust me its not just you...remember my thing with frozen in Lost?...yea...sometimes the respect level here gets to me...

 

[camo-man]

Your long posts scared me into skimming them. Sorry guys. =X

I'm also back from my vacation, which I DID POST TO INFORM YOU ALL ABOUT *coughpersonwhoputmeontheirinactivepersonlistCOUGH*

And darnz. I missed the Monty Python craze.... >=O

 

[DiamondFalcon]

Yeah, that was me, sorry.
But its pretty much where you left off, Ronike and KevinM suspected then not.
Anything new to add, camo-man?

If we don't think of something good to do, perhaps we can try a LoS from everyone. And we still have data from Pythag's lynch, however blurry it is.

 

[camo-man]

LoS = list of suspicion? And I already told you I was skimming, but I got some negative vibes from Ronike at one point... :O

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Deadline Time!

WEWT! It's time for a good old fashioned deadline!

At 12 A.M. EST Sunday morning, Day 2 will end with no lynch.

Obviously this is subject to change based on activity and whatnot. Happy posting!

 

[spam_master]

I think based on evidence ronike is the most supicious, but I really feel like he's not mafia.

I think you all know what's comin' next

Vote: Kevin M

I honestly think he's mafia.

 

[commonyoshi]

I'm just throwing this out there.

Who else thinks KevinM is suspicious? I do.

He doesn't post very much. Barely contributes to the discussion, but does arrive to defend himself... yeah, not much but this is why we're have a deadline now, right? Because we dont have much.

List of suspicious folk.
Was suspicious of all the Broomers. All of them except Eor, but only because he's that main character guy. So that means Mediocre and Chill. (Hmm... Maybe I'm just being racist against Broomers)
KevinM (kindaaa)

Ronike has passed my little screening, but ligolski still has his doubts about him, and ligolski probably knows Ronike more than I do. I dont think Ronike is anything special right now, but I am willing to listen to ligolski due to his 1337ness.

 

[Ronike]

Wait, Liggy's still suspiscous of me? What for?

Oh and as for lynch candidates, at this point I really dunno. Id rather not just lynch a lurker, no matter how suspiscious lurking may be, but if it gets too close to the deadline I think a lynch is better than no lynch. We at least have some chance of getting a mafia member then...

Well, Ill reserve my vote until friday night. If we get there, the deadline is still imposed, and nothing better has arisen, Ill vote on kevin as well. Or whoever if we are going after a different inactive by then.

BTW, if Im not that active, its cause Im busy with MP3. THe only reason Im on now is cause Ive been playing almost ten hours straight and my right wrist is starting to hurt.

 

[KevinM]

I feel like theres nothing I can do to continue to defend myself at this moment, no matter what i say I apparently give out mafia vibes... This is my last post for a couple days anyways my grandfater went into the hospital with a stroke, family comes before defending myself in a mafia game...

I just don't get it.. people say i don't post enough.. so I post more and thats suspicious

Someone says they think i'm mafia.. i ask them to give me reasons.. its suspicious

Ehh i don't know i guess worst comes to worst i can throw out a name or a role... but I will swear to you i'm town.. and not only that... but i'm rather important for you guys.

Now this is my last post for a while.. i'm mentally exhausted.. this has not been the best summer ehh

As for my suspicions, i've been looking more and more at Ligolski.. he's rather inactive and he only comes in every once in a while to say he's suspicious of someone

If i have to vote anyone it would be Kada or Liggy

It seems like their worried to post because they might get suspected

Take care folks I promise i'll try and get on.

 

[Ronike]

Both Kada and liggy are on vacation or something. Kada said he will be back late this week and Liggy is only on sometimes cause hes on a compy at a hotel.

The thing is Kevin, you arent being active in this one. You are in the other one, but not this one. Thats why we think you are inactive.

 

[KevinM]

Oh i didn't know they were on vacation

My bad to both of them....

Sorry about being inactive then Ronike, i'll try and man-up when i return.. if i'm not hanging from a tree <_<