Trigun Mafia (GAME OVER! TOWN WINS! Night Actions/Results/PMs posted!)

[Mediocre]

I'm voting for Pythag. Most of my reasons are the same as those given by Eor and a lot of other people, so I'm not going to try to explain myself too thoroughly.

Mostly, I'm voting for him because his "try a new strategy" explanation just doesn't cut it for me. From what I hear, he's not stupid, but the "strategy" he tried is very stupid. I can't see what possible positive effect he thought it was going to have.

Can you explain, Pythag? If you give me one plausible reason for implementing the "strategy" you were using, I'll consider unvoting you.

Meanwhile:

Vote: Pythag

 

[KevinM]

I don't know his claim that he would role reveal seems weird...

Why would you role reveal this early?

 

[commonyoshi]

I agree. There are only four reasons why you'd change your strategy.

1. People didn't like it in another game and it got you killed. (see spam_master )
2. You're trying to hide something from us. (usually means you have something to hide)
3. You are on a different alliance.
4. Boredom.

 

[camo-man]

I'm keeping my vote on Pythag. I find the way you were playing to be "shady" (thanks camo ) and still do.

No prob. =D

and 5. Your friend hijacked your account
6. You just felt like it
7. Your attitude changed with some outside influence (alcohol/drugs)
8. Trying to sound cool for once
9. Imitating a character in a show/video game you like a lot
10. physical injury that results in a new mentality

The list goes on and on...

 

[spam_master]

But, I would like to know, now that pythag is explaining the thing's he did, what the reason was he voted for me. Even if your weren't giving reasons for the vote due to your strategy there had to be some reason you voted for me.

If you were just voting randomly during a time when we actually had real discuccion, then you were just voting to seed confusion and that is very mafia in my book. Perhaps you were even trying to defend a fellow mafia who was under suspicion by moving the topic onto yourself.

Why do people always adress others questions but completely ignore mine. Even a "that's a stupid question" would make me happy, but just passing over it is annoying.

 

[Blazer]

Why do people always adress others questions but completely ignore mine. Even a "that's a stupid question" would make me happy, but just passing over it is annoying.

That's a stupid question. XD.

Maybe he didn't want to defend himself from you? Or do you want the answer that the suspicion does lie on me and Pythag? It does. Lol.

 

[KevinM]

So it's safe to say that we're not going with a No Lynching

that would just be ******** so lets go people we need to think of something

 

[Pythag]

To Mediocre, aside from boredom, I'm totally drawing a blank as to why I did it.
I'm trying to think back, when this started it was around the same time I started my job, and I was just so tired from working I didn't feel like posting much. My first vote which I gave no reasons for I actually did to amuse myself. Then for some reason or another I thought that that strategy might work to benefit for the town. I see now that I must've been really tired or something, because I cannot see any logical way that not talking would be good for the town.
The only other thing I can think of is that I was kinda thinking bigger picture. If people are trying to reference the style I play, (say in another mafia game) They would be at a complete loss because every game would result in a totally new version of Pythag!


Sorry that's the best I can do for now, so it looks like you're gonna have to keep your vote on me.

Now, at spam, yes It was all random votes. I wasn't reading what was going on very much (skimming at best) so I didn't even realize I was throwing people off (sorry!)

Now for Kevin, I would only role reveal if it came down to 7 votes on me, that would be my last ditch effort to defend myself. I was just wondering if that's what it's going to take to convince you guys.
I doubt it will though, because my role is awkward.

 

[Mediocre]

To Mediocre, aside from boredom, I'm totally drawing a blank as to why I did it.
I'm trying to think back, when this started it was around the same time I started my job, and I was just so tired from working I didn't feel like posting much. My first vote which I gave no reasons for I actually did to amuse myself. Then for some reason or another I thought that that strategy might work to benefit for the town. I see now that I must've been really tired or something, because I cannot see any logical way that not talking would be good for the town.

I'm sorry, but tiredness isn't a sufficient explanation.

It might explain why you did it initially, but it definitely doesn't explain why you continued it, especially after people were voting for you because of it.

So, yes, I'm keeping my vote on you. I'd recommend that others place their votes on you too, because your actions make absolutely no sense without some kind of non-town motivation.

 

[Blazer]

I just don't think he's mafia. His defense is awful yes, but I for whatever reason believe him.

 

[KevinM]

Blaze you seem to be looking for some kind of no lynch, you can't trust everyone in this game just saying

I agree with Medi though

Tiredness is no excuse for the continued Erratic voting pattern

Vote Pythag

 

[Pythag]

A defense that is the truth is never horrible.
Sounds like something out of a fortune cookie doesn't it?
How many votes are on me now? 4?
anyway, like i said, I may have been tired when I started it. For whatever reason afterwards it seemed like a good idea. I just honestly can't remember why.

 

[ligolski]

it seems to me that your explanation changes a little by little from post to post, slowly evolving into something different...because it seems to me that your explanation is changing i shall:

vote: pythag

is it just me or am i correct about this ^?

 

[Blazer]

Blaze you seem to be looking for some kind of no lynch, you can't trust everyone in this game just saying

I agree with Medi though

Tiredness is no excuse for the continued Erratic voting pattern

Vote Pythag

I never even suggested a no lynch. Don't try to tell me what I'm looking for. I'm still for lynching Eor who, I never said I wasn't still suspicious of.

 

[spam_master]

Even though the evidence against pythag isn't as great as I would normally like to justify a vote, I really don't want to have to no lynch today. So, for mhis extremely strange change in play style and his weak explanation.

Voteythag

 

[Blazer]

*looks up* I GOT A SET OF QUOTES TO WORK!!! I'M CURED!!!

 

[Pythag]

Alright since my story is "changing", which it really isn't. Or if it is it's completely unintentional.

I'm just gonna come out and say this

I'm Midvalley the Hornfreak.
In my description it says that I have left the gung ho guns and am now town alligned.
Each night I get to choose to play a note on my saxophone. Depending on what note I select, my "special powers" might activate. I have no idea what that means.

anyway, that's my role.
You guys have frustrated me.

 

[GotMink]

midvalley the hornfreak??? .............................. in the anime he was definatly a bad guy.. idk has anyone read the manga? from the wikipedia site he seems like he attempted to switch sides but if someone who has actually read the manga could elaborate then that would help....

 

[Pythag]

dude. I thought the exact same thing.
I had to read my character description twice, and sure enough at the end of it, It declared: "you are town aligned"

 

[ligolski]

The next two Gung-Ho Guns, Midvalley the Hornfreak and Hoppered the Gauntlet, are sent out to continue to torment Vash. However, Hoppered, a survivor of July, wants to kill Vash, and the two Guns make a deal where Midvalley will desert the group and Hoppered will kill Vash.

thats from wiki...it seems that it is true then...so...unvote: pythag

 

[GotMink]

He could be independent... it sounds more like an independent character description. it's not like Midvalley wants Vash to prevail and it's said that he hates the plants... which is the sole source of power for the humans on um... dat planet that they're on... *forgot'd*

 

[Eor]

I have no Trigun info, but I know Mediocre does. He's been posting intelligently, so I'm going to wait to see what he has to say on the role claim. I read wikipedia, and I do not see him as being town. But, again, I barely understand what the wikipedia was talking about, so I'll wait

 

[Ronike]

Well so far most of the people with an idea of the show has said that midvalley is a badguy... so Im inclined to think that this is either true or partially true (i.e: independent). However, Eor says mediocre has good knowledge of the anime, so I too shall see what she says. However, I would like to note that it is entirely possible that he is mafia and that once someone posted all of those gung ho guns as being "possibly mafia", he realized that he may be able to claim his true role and say that the role had a change of heart...

 

[Eor]

I probably should have been more clear, but I didn't actually mean I'll just do whatever Mediocre says. I don't think his role claim means he's town at all, and in all honesty I was more so waiting for confirmation on it from Mediocre. I'm not suspicious of him, so I'd trust what he say.

Anyone else with Trigun knowledge should definitely speak up on it.

 

[Mediocre]

Sorry guys, but I haven't read the manga either.

In the anime he was absolutely a bad guy, but I don't know about the manga. I read the Trigun part of the manga, but not Trigun Maxium, which is the part that would be relevant. Like you guys, all I have to go on is the wikipedia article.

From that, it doesn't really seem like he should be town. Independent, maybe, but town? I have a hard time believing that.

I'm having some doubts, but I still think that Pythag is our best choice right now.

 

[commonyoshi]

Wow, what a confusing role.

Later he makes an agreement with Hoppered the Gauntlet to help him destroy Vash and in exchange Hoppered will cover up Midvalley's attempt to desert the Gung-Ho Guns.

He could go either way... He tries to kill who I assume is the main good guy, and he tries to leave the Gung-Ho Guns.

 

[DiamondFalcon]

I don't really know about Midvalley, but I know that my character turns good in the end as well and frozen made me town-aligned, so I believe Pythag. He may be independent, but his role description itself doesn't sound like an independent role to me. I don't know why I'm sticking my neck out for Pythag, but those arguing for his lynch may be mafia so I suggest if you're town, laying back and reconsidering.

 

[Pythag]

Now, I have only seen the anime, so I was totally confused as to why I was good. I didn't even know about him leaving the gung ho guns.

Eor, about me mentioning the gung ho guns being town aligned.
Of course I would say that! I'm a good guy and considered a gung ho gun.
Can you just imagine my situation? I had no idea as to how I would argue my role. In case you didn't notice I also mentioned that when I role revealed it wouldn't really help my case because it's so awkward.

...arrrrgh.

 

[Kada]

It may be a possibility that there are just way too many Gung-Ho guns for every single one of them to be Mafia. There are thirteen Gung-Ho Guns (Elendira, Livio and Razio only appeared in the Manga, while Caine was only in the Anime.) If we're going from just the Anime, that means there are ten that we're playing with, along with Vash, Meryl, Milly, Knives, Legato and Wolfwood.

The way that I see it, Frozen might just be giving us a bit of a back story about some of the Guns in order to make them town aligned, to make the game run easier. If all the characters were aligned the way the character's alignment in the Anime would suggest, we'd have 3-4 town members, and 12-13 Mafia members. <_<

That's just my imput on this. I don't know what the mod normally does about assigning roles to characters, whether they're allowed to make up some side-stories in order for it to work out right. He made up a story explaining the situation, where we all wake up and have to weed out any traitors, I see no reason why he can't make up a bit of stuff on how most of the bad guys are now town aligned.

 

[DiamondFalcon]

I don't think that frozen would make up stuff unless he intended to confuse the game (see Fire Emblem Ephraim), but I believe that since frozen seems to be going with the manga, at least for my role, it's logical that Midvalley could be good.

 

[commonyoshi]

If we were going just by the story from the anime and manga, it looks like he's an independant. He wanted to kill Vash, and he wanted to desert the Gung Gang. (whatever)

 

[GotMink]

I still think he's either independent or mafia... it's day 1 and we have no other leads on anyone else. I think pythag would be the best option for a lynch currently, however it's still too early for that anyway. discussion never hurts.

 

[ligolski]

well after reading your descriptions it seems to me he is either independant or mafia...i am thinking more independent...he hates plants which is what whatever race needs or something...but deserted the gung ho's...i am not sure if i should revote him or not so i will not for a little while

 

[Pythag]

If I was independent I think I would've been a little better at blending into the town instead of making myself a flagrent target.

Just letting you know

 

[camo-man]

or you were tired and didn't know what the heck you were posting... ^_^ That was your previous reason for it, right?

I'm teetering between independant and town myself on the matter... just so you know.

 

[commonyoshi]

Ha. You weren't a "flagrant target". Actually, you're a lot quieter here than you are in South Park Mafia. I dont think anyone would have noticed you if the contrasts weren't so striking.

 

[Mediocre]

If I was independent I think I would've been a little better at blending into the town instead of making myself a flagrent target.

Just letting you know

You know, that logic applies to all alignments, whether town, mafia or independent. Your actions make no sense in any context.

 

[smashman90]

I think that Pythag is Town. If there are two independents, I think that they would most likely be Brilliant Dynamite and Loose Ruth. Mafia characters are most likely Knives, Legato, and another Gung-Ho Guns member(possibly Hoppered with the info. in Pythag's role reveal). Now I don't remember alot about Loose Ruth, so I might be wrong on him. We should still keep an eye on Pythag on the time being though.

 

[Pythag]

Camo, I was saying that IF i was independent that's how I would've acted.

Common, I'm pretty sure that voting and not giving reasons made me a pretty glaring voters choice. I'm not exactly off any hook right now. Nor will I be for the rest of the game.


Mediocre, if that logic does apply to all alignments, then really do you have a case
against me at all?

When I die, you all are gonna be so shocked that I was actually town the whole time.

 

[Pythag]

oh. didn't see smashman's post