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Trigun Mafia (GAME OVER! TOWN WINS! Night Actions/Results/PMs posted!)

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Pythag

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argh sorry for the triple post, but
Loose Ruth was only in one episode of the anime.
He's not in the manga at all as far as I know.
He's described as a bounty hunter who also matches the description of vash the stampede (blonde, big gun, wearing red) and is trying to get the reward on vash's head.
If that's true than it sounds like ruth would win whenever vash dies.
 

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If that's true than it sounds like ruth would win whenever vash dies.
I think that Loose Ruth's ability would be something like "Send in the name of one person per night and if that person is Vash, then he is nightkilled." Can't think of what Brilliant Dynamite's ability could be(if he is independent). I am also trying to figure out which characters could be the the remaining mafia members.
 

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When I die, you all are gonna be so shocked that I was actually town the whole time.
That is a really common thing to say when under pressure... an empty threat really.

And abbout your "covering up better" thing, again that fits into my idea of thinking you could make a bad role seem good by playing it the right way. Im still not buying it...
 

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You've been replaced, sry but your were gone for a long time and could have at least pm'd frozen from someone else's computer
 

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Ok, to be completely serious, I think we should lynch pythag.
He's lying up the wazoo and is probably lying about his role.
In fact I have it on good authority that he's an independent or mafia!


Ok, let's see what else I have in my bag of strategies...
By my count I have 6 votes on me at this time.
Vote: Pythag
..and now I have 7.


The next person that votes on me must be mafia.

Unless you wish to take your vote off of me.
I feel the need to write this again.
I am town.
 

mask man

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**** it!
i wish i had a way to have told someone.i have no acces to any other computer.only mine,my moms,and my bros.so i couldnt tell anyone,i was cut off from life during those weeks.
id like to sign up as a replacement.
 

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Why hey thar. I'm the man who replaced you.

You being a replacement isn't really possible since you already know my role and character. I guess I could let you take over again...
 

mask man

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well how much are you enjoying playing?
if your realy likeing this game i think you should keep playing.
 

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Guys, I honestly think we are making a mistake on trying to lunch Pythag. I am getting bad vibes coming out the wazoo and I fear that he might be telling the truth. Also, is it just me or but has it seem like I am different here than what I was in SPM? I have just now realized that.
 

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i could vote you and that would not mean i was mafia...besides, i believe it takes 9 to lynch..just pointing that out to you pythag, you could be mafia/independant trying to get last minute revenge or something...i am still torn on whether or not i should vote for though...i can't decide if u are telling the truth or not...
 

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I believe Pythag. You know why? Because I am Hoppered the Gauntlet, and I am town, surprisingly. Thus I am entitled to defend my manga buddy Midvalley. I think if frozen made me town, then he would have made Pythag town as well, since deserting doesn't make a strong enough case for independent. And whoever puts the last vote on Pythag is mafia because they obviously want him dead even though the fact is that he's not for sure independent. I am very suspicious of people who are advocating his lynch right now.
Vote: commonyoshi
I know this isn't necessarily applicable, but mask man can't replace anyone because if common's mafia then mask man will know who to lynch. If it's not commonyoshi, then hey, let's find someone else, but right now let's lay off Pythag.
 

Pythag

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Rats I thought it only took 8 to lynch.
DiamondFalcon = my hero.

I would've vote on commonyoshi though, the biggest suspects for me is chill.
Chill voted on me to get me talking, and I have yet to see a multitude of posts flow from him. I've never played with chill before so I don't know.

anyway, It's really hard for me to find suspicious acting people because what I interpret as suspicious behavior gets wrapped up in normal town people making normal moves (see Blazer for reference)
 

Pythag

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uh agent, no one said anything about a mason role.
it would be the first I know about it.
 

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I believe Pythag. You know why? Because I am Hoppered the Gauntlet, and I am town, surprisingly. Thus I am entitled to defend my manga buddy Midvalley. I think if frozen made me town, then he would have made Pythag town as well, since deserting doesn't make a strong enough case for independent. And whoever puts the last vote on Pythag is mafia because they obviously want him dead even though the fact is that he's not for sure independent.
Didn't something happen like this in SSBM Mafia where one of the masons was town and the other was mafia? Just pointing that out.

I am very suspicious of people who are advocating his lynch right now.
There is no reason for this at all. You're just trying to argue by pointing fingers at other people. Namely me.
 

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Yes, common I was about to bring that out. In SSBMaifa I was Popo Town and <3 was Nana mafia. So I'm not exactly convinced that he's town now.
 
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this certainly confuses things a bit.... (why does the manga have to have more stuff in it and be deeper than the anime v_v) and commonyoshi that's a good point, one could be mafia, and if it was one of the two i'd think it would be hoppered the gauntlet because a) he was the one to stay behind and kill vash so midvalley could escape and b) he did not attempt to desert like midvalley(to my knowledge, if someone has read the manga and knows otherwise please correct me, but that's what i got from wiki) so i think it's quite possible that there's a mafia/town mason here and i'd think if that is true that diamond falcon would be the mafia.
 

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Ugh, I'm confused

Why are all of these "town" people trying to kill the main town guy? If they're town, then who are the mafia players?

We know that Vash the stampede is town. And now there are people who claim to be town that want him dead. Unless they both have a "Kill Vash and the mafia" role, then I do not see how they can be town.

But, if Pythag and Diamond where both mafia, no one would do what Diamond just did. I think Diamond is town, and his role is right. I have no idea about Pythag.

God I'm confused.

I voted for Pythag before the role claim, and his claim has only brought more confusion to the game. I'm keeping my vote on him unless something else comes up.
 

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There is the possibility that Diamond is mafia who came out and to defend Pythag, a town. After we lynch Pythag, he'd be like "I told you so", and everyone would believe he is town like Pythag.

If we were to look at this strategically instead of by analyzing posts, lynching Diamond would be the better option here instead of Pythag.

Not saying I suspect him. I'm just looking at this n a different way.
 

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He came out and revealed his role out of nowhere too, that seemed a little iffy, why would you role reveal with no pressure on.. that seems like a weak move
 

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Diamond falcon? He did it because he believed Pythag, and showed us why.

What Common said is possible, but in all honesty you can make a "he could be mafia" from any scenario
 

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There is the possibility that Diamond is mafia who came out and to defend Pythag, a town. After we lynch Pythag, he'd be like "I told you so", and everyone would believe he is town like Pythag.
Now that I look at it diamond has been pushing the "my character turns town too" in a not so subtle manner for several posts, and their is almost no reason he has to back up pythag other than too make himslef look good when pythag is lynched town. I mean pythag has provided no real evidence to his townness, so diamond has no real reason to think pyhag's town and takes a huge risk of defending a mafia, unless he know he's not mafia, because diamond is mafia.

Someone can probably restate that better but I really think diamond know's something that we don;t. Also, both clearly stated that their not mason, diamond just tried to make it seem like they are in the smae alignment.

Unvote:pythag
Vote:diamondfalcon
 

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Ok. To clarify things a bit, I am not claiming mason or anything like that. I said that my character Hoppered the Gauntlet and Pythag's (I believe him) character Midvalley the Hornfreak are both Gung-ho guns or whatever (I don't watch/read Trigun) that turn against the Guns at the very last moment and thus frozenflame thought it good enough reason to make us town. I am backing Pythag because he is so close to lynch and I don't want a mislynch. I debated actually bringing out my role or not, but I decided it was relevant enough because it was mentioned in that Wiki article someone looked up, and that I had read earlier to try and understand why a bad guy could be town. Turns out that Hoppered and Midvalley helped each other in the manga so I thought it would be neat if I did that here.

From Wikipedia:
"During his final battle he sees Vash's memory of July and has a revelation that he has made the wrong choice. Hoppered gains a lot of honor in turning against the Gung-Ho Guns in his last living moments. His and Midvalley's coins were taken by Milly, and given to Vash after Vash escaped from the Ark."

Now you can lynch me or Pythag but since we are not really masons, neither death will confirm the other (I don't expect you to trust me if Pythag turns out town). Leave that to the cop if you really distrust us that much. What I'm really afraid of is the mafia misleading the townies out there to lynch one of us due to their sheer numbers this early in the game. Watch out for people that proved suspicious earlier in the game that are now backing one of our lynches.

I hope you see my point of view here. I've never seen Trigun before so I'm clueless about who are the worst villains, but I'm pretty sure if there are so many then frozen would have picked the top evil ones for the mafia.
 

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Diamond Falcon said:
I said that my character Hoppered the Gauntlet and Pythag's (I believe him) character Midvalley the Hornfreak are both Gung-ho guns or whatever (I don't watch/read Trigun) that turn against the Guns at the very last moment and thus frozenflame thought it good enough reason to make us town.
That's backround info on the character, just so you know. It may or may not have anything to do with the game.

And you never answered my question for why you decided to vote for me.
 

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Because I was suspicious of mask man, then you, and still you refuse to believe me or Pythag. I think's that good reason enough for me, everyone else can choose which mafiat they want.
 

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And of course some background information may not be relevant to the game, but apparently this is, and is relevant to the situation as well. I wouldn't have brought it up if it weren't suggested to by frozenflame's description (which I can't quote here).
 

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Unvote Pythag
forgot to do tha earlier.
I don't know, I'm willing to trust diamond falcon. Nothing he's posted seems to be extremely mafia ish.
Chill on the other hand.
Started this whole thing against me, which I completely understand, yet, he really doesnt have much to say. I kinda see this as him throwing something shiney at the town and all of us rushing to look at it while he goes completely unnoticed.
 

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What I'm really afraid of is the mafia misleading the townies out there to lynch one of us due to their sheer numbers this early in the game. Watch out for people that proved suspicious earlier in the game that are now backing one of our lynches.
Really? How many mafia are there?
 

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Because I was suspicious of mask man, then you, and still you refuse to believe me or Pythag. I think's that good reason enough for me, everyone else can choose which mafiat they want.
Well it's not like people can choose to believe you and Pythag. -_-;
You cant target me because of that. I'd choose to believe in Santa Clause if I could, but I dont because I cant.
 

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Unvote Pythag
forgot to do tha earlier.
I don't know, I'm willing to trust diamond falcon. Nothing he's posted seems to be extremely mafia ish.
Chill on the other hand.
Started this whole thing against me, which I completely understand, yet, he really doesnt have much to say. I kinda see this as him throwing something shiney at the town and all of us rushing to look at it while he goes completely unnoticed.
Of course, you're willing to trust Df. He's defending you.

I gave my reasons for voting and listened to your reasoning. You have not convinced me to change my vote. What else do I need to say? You speak as though the fact that I'm not pushing for your lynch is somehow condeming. I think you're mafia, not everyone has to agree with me.
 

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Really? How many mafia are there?
I have no idea how many mafia there are (I suppose between 1/4 and 1/3 of us) so with a few townies backing I'm assuming it wouldn't take many to take down someone right now with a little reasoning. If I am lynched I want the town to look at those who voted for me and watch them really closely.

I just can't believe a townie wouldn't believe me with the facts right there in front of you. I've been trying to help the whole game, and now when I help someone else with the facts to prove it (short of quoting my PM) you all refuse to even consider. There's something really suspicious going on.
 
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