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Trigun Mafia (GAME OVER! TOWN WINS! Night Actions/Results/PMs posted!)

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Mediocre

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Ah, crap, I forgot about the family thing.

I still find you very suspicious, but not enough to vote on you. The main reason I voted for you in the first place was because of your terrible defense, but now I see why you might not care about making a decent defensive post.

Unvote: blazer
 

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so you are not going to even try to help us eh?...hmmm...i get a bad vibe from this, especially the last paragraph...plus u don't wanna help...so... vote: blazer
1.You all are more experienced than me.
2. You cannot find anyone suspicious but apparently me.
3. I can't pull suspicion out of my butt and just suddenly find a mafia for you.
4. It's day 1 wtf am I supposed to find?

This is just an awful statement. I don't want to help a bunch of complete idiots yes. I'm not magic and just going to say "X" is mafia and then be right. If I were wrong you all would lynch me anyway.

You all want guidance? Don't kill your doctor.
 

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Also, for this complete act of idiocy if you want my directional guidance here it is:

Eorlingas is mafia. He is trying to lynch me off of a joke statement and seems to be VERY serious about it. He's almost desperate it seems if you ask me. Also, Ligolski may be or he is being convinced by Eor but I doubt that as Eor does not put out very good points. I've acted the same this game I act every game. I joke, and I eventually say something worthwhile whether wrong or not. That's just me. I'm gonna say Ligolski understands that though so I'm going to say he is mafia.

If your gonna lynch me then there's my opinions since you seem to think giving them shows less "mafia" style play. Now please, go ahead and lynch me so that I don't have to think about two mafia games.
 

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Good. It looks like you do give a darn now. Oh, and sorry about that family thing you were talking about. Hope everything gets better.

Unvote: Blazer
 

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Vote: Camo-man

Yeah I can. Reasoning behind lynching him could be something like this: We're going to end up no lynching otherwise and if camo is mafia we'll never have reason to lynch him again.
Vote:Eorlingas

Why? See my reasons in the post above. Your probably gonna end up lynching me even if Common and Mediocre and Camo have all said this isn't all that bad but, if you don't this is where my vote is going and no it's not changing. I doubt if I've ever seen anyone do something this scummy.

Also, I'd like to point out that if a mafia person were to want to lynch anyone, I would be it. They probably do know that I don't feel like posting I said I wouldn't when my stepdad had his heartattack, and I've done my best to remain an active player instead of simply not doing ANYTHING at all. If I were mafia I would have attacked me too it just makes more sense than going after say, Common. He probably saw my Ronike finding my joke vote scummy when it was in fact part of my standing joke of trying to lynch camo-man because he's never mafia. Eor thought he would just jump on this chance and convince the town to lynch me. So far, he's done a good job.

Also, I'd REALLY like to point out the fact that I said the above that is in quotes. Eor chose to ignore this and try to take my words out of context.

Now then, I'd rather not be bothered with the prospect of being lynched again. If you all would like my role then I'll give it to you.
 

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REALLY SORRY ABOUT THE TRIPLE POST!

Before I forget to say this because if I don't it'll come back to bite me.

Eor, don't throw one of your fits. I really don't give a care. It's not going to sway my thinking any at all. You were close but sorry it's just not gonna happen. If you think that I'm just going to forget all about lynching you because you've gotten all mad your wrong. It won't matter what you say unless there is something that will 100% tell me your not mafia that you've got up your sleeve.

I wouldn't usually have put that there but so far his track record on throwing fits and sliding by is pretty good and I'm honestly not going for it this time.
 

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I wouldn't usually have put that there but so far his track record on throwing fits and sliding by is pretty good and I'm honestly not going for it this time.
I wouldn't be accusing people of throwing fits. That's exactly what you did in those last three posts. You gave us this long, angry rant about how Eorlingas is mafia, while at the same time telling us, "I don't care, I don't care." Obviously you do care, because otherwise you wouldn't be bothering to defend yourself, so I really don't see why you insist on telling us that you don't.

I'm not going to vote for you because of it, but I'd really appreciate it if you stopped trying to put on this facade of apathy. It's rather annoying.
 

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Vote:Eorlingas

They probably do know that I don't feel like posting I said I wouldn't when my stepdad had his heartattack, and I've done my best to remain an active player instead of simply not doing ANYTHING at all.
You haven't been doing anything at all. And it wouldn't be smart to attack the person with the stepdad problem, as it would make most people wary.


Also, I'd REALLY like to point out the fact that I said the above that is in quotes. Eor chose to ignore this and try to take my words out of context.
Another lie, I mentioned that in my first post voting for you, it was the last half of the quotation that was troublesome, and so I only quoted that, and mentioned the top half above it.


blazer said:
Eor, don't throw one of your fits. I really don't give a care. It's not going to sway my thinking any at all. You were close but sorry it's just not gonna happen. If you think that I'm just going to forget all about lynching you because you've gotten all mad your wrong. It won't matter what you say unless there is something that will 100% tell me your not mafia that you've got up your sleeve.

I wouldn't usually have put that there but so far his track record on throwing fits and sliding by is pretty good and I'm honestly not going for it this time.
You're entire post is you throwing a fit. I haven't thrown a fit, nor do I.
 

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Eorlingas is mafia. He is trying to lynch me off of a joke statement
Wrong, I voted you because of everything of all your posts. I stated that clearly in the first post I voted for you
 

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Unvote: Blazer
He seems to be telling the truth, and I forgot he's having those family troubles. But you need to help us more if you're really town, rather than joke bandwagoning. I don't know about Eorlingas yet; he was jumping on you, but he had a good reason to.
 

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I wouldn't be accusing people of throwing fits. That's exactly what you did in those last three posts. You gave us this long, angry rant about how Eorlingas is mafia, while at the same time telling us, "I don't care, I don't care." Obviously you do care, because otherwise you wouldn't be bothering to defend yourself, so I really don't see why you insist on telling us that you don't.

I'm not going to vote for you because of it, but I'd really appreciate it if you stopped trying to put on this facade of apathy. It's rather annoying.
No, I still could care less, I just decided that if I'm going to die I might as well tell you all who I strongly believe to be mafia this is something I often see Common encourage before a lynching and figured it'd be nice for you all to have. If you'd rather not have my opinion before I die then fine by me I'll die in peace next time.

Wrong, I voted you because of everything of all your posts. I stated that clearly in the first post I voted for you
You stated that I've joked a lot if I don't recall and then provided no further reasoning than the statement about me thinking the odds of lynching Camo-man were low which you took out of context as, if you had to quote the entire thing most people would probably see that it was part of my standing joke to lynch Camo-man and that I honestly wouldn't think we were going to lynch him which is why that line was there. Had we started to lynch him with good reason then fine, there'd be no reason to lift my vote but, I figured I'd lift it within once everyone else lifted their's and then make some small complaint to the lines of "Darn I'll get you Camo-man" which would continue said joke.

Unvote: Blazer
He seems to be telling the truth, and I forgot he's having those family troubles. But you need to help us more if you're really town, rather than joke bandwagoning. I don't know about Eorlingas yet; he was jumping on you, but he had a good reason to.
See my response to Ligolski saying I need to help you. I can't help much. Almost everyone of you has had a bit more experience and you were all stuck so wtf do you expect me to do? Especially given my circumstances of not really having a desire to worry about this game. I'd prefer to not be participating in it almost, but I figured I'd stay in and try to help when possible. So far nothing bothered me about anyone until now that is, except for my first post here where I voted on Mediocre for being too aggressive towards Smashman which was refuted. After it I've not had any reason to be suspicious of anyone until now at which point I thought you all were going to kill me and I thought I'd show you all what I thought before you killed me. I supppose doing that ended up saving me too but that was merely accidental.

Also, *joins the semi lengthy post club*
 

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o sh** son, i forgot about your RL situation...sorry pal...i hope for the best!

unvote: blazer

i think blazer has argued quite well against eor's points though there is no true way to truly tell if blazer was actually joking around...but i think he was now, cuz it occurred to me that a mafia player wouldn't do that...well at least if i was mafia i wouldn't do that but...i wouldn't do that if i was town either...i think his apathy and lack of experience in day 1's as he explains coupled with the his RL situation means to me that this is not something that is an arguement worthy to lynch upon...
 

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you're sticking to the same points, which make me think that they are probably true.

Unvote:Blazer

You're not acting at all like how you do in the other mafia game. Acting diffrently isn't a crime, but I thought I'd mention it. Until we know what alignment you are in either of the games, it's nothing to fully consider
 

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I too had forgotten about the family situation.

I'm voting for Pythag. He hasn't contibuted much and when he recently voted he gave no reason for doing so.

unvote: Blazer

vote: Pythag
 

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That's not really a reason for voting him...

What if it's part of his role? And in Day 1s, not much can be contributed by anyone. =/
 

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It is a reason to vote for him, but in all honesty no one is that bad at this game, no one, and definitely not Pythag. I'm guessing it's his role, because I cannot see it being anything else
 

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I can, it's called laziness,mafia-alignment,laziness, stupidity, laziness or any other reason.

These are mafia games and it's true we can have strange restrictions. But I find it unlikely that a role would allow for the player to post and speak and then later allow them to continue posting but only vote.

At this point I can leave my vote on him or I can remove it and say "it's day 1, it's day 1" continuing to promote this psuedo activity. If this continues frozen is going to put on a time limit and the day will end anyways. Might as well extend some effort to accomplish something.
 

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Yeah, I really don't see that being part of his role and I thought it was very suspicious before Chill mentioned it as well. If we don't do something productive, frozen's gonna reimpose the deadline so we might as well try to get some answers.
Vote: Pythag
I expect an explanation.
 

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He's already posted more then once, right?
 

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I looked on Wikipedia's trigun characters, and I didn't see anything that would result in a role like Pythags. The closest was Milly Thompson, who was described as a Ditz.

Anyone here actually watch the show/read the manga, and maybe could provide more insight into it?
 
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eck ummm milly certainly talks enough.... i can't really think of anyone who doesn't speak... well the cat doesn't say anything cept meow ^_^ (the cat IS awesome though)
 

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mine said:
Pythag is also acting a bit differently, but I'm not sure if that's good or bad. He hasn't really outrightly accused or interogated anyone yet like he has in the other game, something which irked me.
Answer my suspicions, Pythag! What's going on here?
 

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This is rediculous.

Unvote:Eor

Vote:pythag

Eor, your still my top suspect but geez this is too much.
 

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I'm still cautious of voting for Pythag. He definitely knows how to talk, and not doing so is weird. Especially when we're voting for him for doing so. I really think it's a role.
 

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The following are all of Pythag's posts

work has been kicking my butt. I have like no time.
but anyways.
Vote spam masteri his eyes burning will lead to blindness, and then the game will be unplayable for him.

oh and ronike, thank you for posting my birthday in your location. It helps me remember when I turn 19 XP
well, I think what ronike is trying to say is that even if you find smashman incredibly scummy. Don't bring it up just yet. Let there be time for lots of discussion, and you can bring up your points later. Who knows, then other people might agree with you as well. To be so steadfast in your vote really isn't exactly the best idea at the beginning of the day 1.
Vote Kevin
Unvote Kevin
Ah day 1's.
I know not what can be said about them that hasn't been said already.
Vote Mediocre
Unvote Mediocre
Vote Spam master
unvote Spam!
Now that I'm looking at it, I really can't tell about him. There is the possibility that he has a confusing role that forces him to act irrationally, or he could be mafia and is just acting irrationally in order to make us think it's his role. If its the later, I have to say that it's a rather clever defense.

The problem with his posts is that the whole no reason votes started happening recently, with no reason. I'm starting to think that he might be mafia trying to confuse us.

Note that he has posted words in between the Kevin and Mediocre votes, meaning that he can at least post words, and that this isn't something random.

Now, the only real thing that stays throughout his posts are the following

1. He never talks about himself
2. He never gives a reason for a vote, minus the Spam_Master one, which was a joke
3. The only time he has gone in depth was in a post that didn't directly relate to him

I have no idea what to make of it. The only thing I could get is that his role makes it so he cannot give a real reason to vote for someone, nor could he defend himself. And that is a bull**** role, and Frozen is smarter then to make a role so boring and bad.

I'm going to have to decide that Pythag is faking it.

Vote: Pythag
 

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He could be the village idiot role. That's in a few games. It's were you try to get yourself killed. If so he does a good job.
 

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The problem with his posts is that the whole no reason votes started happening recently, with no obvious catalyst. I'm starting to think that he might be mafia trying to confuse us.

Note that he has posted words in between the Kevin and Mediocre votes, meaning that since he started voting randomly, he had the ability to talk

The only constants in his posts that I can see are the following

1. He never talks about himself
2. He never gives a reason for a vote, minus the Spam_Master one, which was a joke
3. The only time he has gone in depth was in a post that didn't directly relate to him

I can barely think of what to make of it. It could be that he has a role where he cannot give a reason to seriously vote for someone, and that he can't defend himself, which would be a bull**** role. Frozenflame is much smarter then that, he wouldn't make a role so terrible. Because not only is it terrible, it makes the game boring as hell to whoever would get such a role

All of this seems to point to Pythag faking it as a defense, or just having a laugh. Pythag is not Zman, and is an intelligent man. He wouldn't be a townie that'd do this as a joke. Which means it has to be the former, and he's faking it for a cover.

Vote: Pythag

The post I quoted was just edited heavily by me. Read it. The original post was more so ramblings where I put down my thoughts as I had them, making it hard to follow. Read the quotes for the better and more convincing version.
 

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He could be the village idiot role. That's in a few games. It's were you try to get yourself killed. If so he does a good job.
Never heard of that role. It would be possible, yes.

Anyone from Trigun that you can think of that would want to die, or is so stupid that they could deserve that role?
 

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Or, I guess, anyone who was accidentally killed in that show by the good guys?
 

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Yeah, Pythag is really not contributing at all thus far, nor is he telling us reasoning. Ive warned him many a time, and frankly Im getting sick of it, but Ill give you one more chance. Ecplain yourself within 24 hours, or Im voting on you.
 

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Ok, obviously I've pissed everyone off, which wasn't supposed to happen, but what are you gonna do?
My erratic behavior has absolutely nothing to do with my role.
I was merely trying something completely different from what I did last game.
(I mean, if you play exactly the same, people eventually figure our how to read you)
I can safely say that this tactic doesn't work.
Actually thinking about it, I don't even know what I was trying to attempt by doing this, maybe I was bored at the time. But I myself can't even see now how this "play style" would have helped anyone in the game. Maybe if I was independent it would help, but I'm not, so whatever.
regardless, now that I know that this doesn't work, I'm going to behave more normally.
I'm probably going to get lynched for all this, but I'll chalk it up to just me being a ******, and I'll know next time not to do it.
Sorry.

I know this response isn't going to please everyone, but like I said, I was just trying something new, and if failed horribly.

Anyway, to attempt to help out the town, I feel that ronike and blazer and commonyoshi are quite suspicious.
Blazer jumped on me as soon as ronike got pissed. Ronike got pissed for what seemed to be not that big a deal (for me anyway)
Commonyoshi is least suspicious because of his overly dramatic tone, but ronike and blazer definately.
Blazer is suspicious also of eor (what else is new eh?) which has continually annoyed me (in SPM as well)
It almost seems as if he's trying really hard to weed out all of the power players. In fact I am not suspicious at all of eor. He took a logical approach to my "silence" and only voted on me after rational thinking.

So I'm just trying to decide who to vote for, ronike or blazer.
hope that clears things up...
if not , I'm sorry town.
 

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Unvote: Pythag
Though I still think that voting with no reason is not logical gameplay, you do make a good point that this "play style" isn't very helpful, so if you're mafia, then you weren't doing a very good job.
Now I am still a little suspicious of Blazer, Ronike, common and Chill as well, so we'll see what happens from here.
 

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WTF? How is it suspicious that I voted on the guy who was RANDOMLY voting on people with NO explanation? Did you expect me not to? Pythag, I don't know what your frickin' problem with me is but it's surfacing in both games and I personally am getting REALLY annoyed by it.

Also, weed out the power players am I? First off in SPM I've not even voted on Eor more than once or twice and simply addressed who was suspicious. Second, in this game I'm suspicious of Eor because of him voting on me for what I see has some of the worst reasoning ever, IE: I make jokes.

Also, I tried to figure out what role you might have stupid. I said you might have the village idiot role because I was trying to determine what was with your strange behavior which I still don't think was simply "trying to see what people's reactions to a new different playstyle".

Figure out what the heck your problem with me is and then address it. Stop trying to act like my every move chalks up to me being instantly mafia so you can get rid of me in both games because that's definitely what I'm seeing here.

(Sorry I just threw an Eor sized fit but this is seriously annoying me.)
 
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