After looking back, it's probably the having the leader thing and I thought his suspicions were somewhat parroting others too much for me.
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Totally Normal Mafia [Game Over, Town and Independent Win]
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But I still much prefer a Chaco or Florida lynch and smashman replaced/gets active.
I'm a bit curious on a few things
KevinM- You have said pages ago that you don't trust Chaco's claim at all, but you're still pushing for a Smashman lynch. Any reason to that?
Mentos - If you don't feel comfortable for a Chaco lynch, who would you rather lynch then?
Everyone - with a bit of last minute role claiming from Chaco and Yaya, how does everyone feel about this? Does anyone really feel comfortable with a lynch at all? Does anyone even believe in Chaco's and Yaya's role claim?
KevinM- You have said pages ago that you don't trust Chaco's claim at all, but you're still pushing for a Smashman lynch. Any reason to that?
Mentos - If you don't feel comfortable for a Chaco lynch, who would you rather lynch then?
Everyone - with a bit of last minute role claiming from Chaco and Yaya, how does everyone feel about this? Does anyone really feel comfortable with a lynch at all? Does anyone even believe in Chaco's and Yaya's role claim?
smashman90
Smash Lord
Huh, apparently Kevin is banned. So I guess that he is gonna get replaced? And yea, go ahead and replace me.
KevinM is not going to be replaced. His ban is for 14 hours and will not hinder his ability to play mafia.
That's the second time a player has been temp-banned and someone has jumped all over the idea of replacing themXD
lets lynch someone, anyone
I thought the person with the most votes was lynched? If I recall correctly that'd be you, Chaco. We'll see.
Reminder: 12. If deadline hits without a lynch, the person with the most votes will be lynched. In the case of a tie, the person who reached the number first will be lynched.
Day 2 Vote Count:
(3) Chaco: Rockin, Florida, Macman
(2) Florida: Marshy, Chaco
(1) Rockin: Handorin
(1) Smashman: KevinM
(3) Not voting: Mentosman, Yaya, Smashman
You guys lynch Chaco and he dies! Turns out he's the guy from Memento, town-aligned and you can read one of his tattoos: 'Night 1, Macman is innocent'.
Night actions are due at the end of August 6th, EST.
Day 2 Vote Count:
(3) Chaco: Rockin, Florida, Macman
(2) Florida: Marshy, Chaco
(1) Rockin: Handorin
(1) Smashman: KevinM
(3) Not voting: Mentosman, Yaya, Smashman
You guys lynch Chaco and he dies! Turns out he's the guy from Memento, town-aligned and you can read one of his tattoos: 'Night 1, Macman is innocent'.
Night actions are due at the end of August 6th, EST.
OMG MOMENTO! Epic Movie.
It turns out nobody died! Day 3 begins!
Deadline is the end of Friday, August 21st, EST.
Deadline is the end of Friday, August 21st, EST.
i think chaco may have been an insane cop/tatoo guy.
So, you're saying you're mafia then Mac?
Anyway, I need to sleep, I'll be back after work tomorrow. Do want to add though, the fact that there was no death pretty much seals the no SK idea, I highly doubt we had a double hit two nights in a row, or a doc save one night and a doc save on a double hit the next.
Anyway, I need to sleep, I'll be back after work tomorrow. Do want to add though, the fact that there was no death pretty much seals the no SK idea, I highly doubt we had a double hit two nights in a row, or a doc save one night and a doc save on a double hit the next.
Will this happen?
Well okay. You chided Chaco earlier for self-voting and now suggest that you could be mafia?
Well, good thing there was no kill this time.
For the moment, not sure else of what to really say except that I agree that there's no SK in this game.
I guess with Chaco's lynch, this makes Yaya's claim even more believable. Yaya, not sure if you answered this before, but is your ability a one time use?
For the moment, not sure else of what to really say except that I agree that there's no SK in this game.
I guess with Chaco's lynch, this makes Yaya's claim even more believable. Yaya, not sure if you answered this before, but is your ability a one time use?
So, I'm gone for an entire Saturday and miss one whole postXD
First of all the lack of a kill is interesting. I would say it's relatively safe to assume the doc was on the pretty cleared Macman, which raises questions about why maf would choose to kill him, it would be a very risky maneuver. However, if said doc was on someone else, obviously make sure to remember who you were on since, with the apparent lack of an SK, that person is clear(obvious, but want to make sure everyone realizes it so whoever doesn't miss it)
Secondly, Mac's comment is still strange and I would like to hear why he suggests Chaco was an insane cop after he was cleared by him. Seems a very odd thing to say and I would like an explanation of what was meant by it.
First of all the lack of a kill is interesting. I would say it's relatively safe to assume the doc was on the pretty cleared Macman, which raises questions about why maf would choose to kill him, it would be a very risky maneuver. However, if said doc was on someone else, obviously make sure to remember who you were on since, with the apparent lack of an SK, that person is clear(obvious, but want to make sure everyone realizes it so whoever doesn't miss it)
Secondly, Mac's comment is still strange and I would like to hear why he suggests Chaco was an insane cop after he was cleared by him. Seems a very odd thing to say and I would like an explanation of what was meant by it.
I will be out of computer access until thursday so until then
Vote Smashman/His Replacement
see you guys soon!
Vote Smashman/His Replacement
see you guys soon!
I do not mean to butt in, but Yaya's ability was supposedly 1-shot. He said that earlier.
I am going to have to concur with both of you.
Vote: Smashman90/Smashman90's replacement.
Omis replaces Smashman.
Frozenflame replaces Yaya.
I'm open to granting an extension since some replacements will have to catch up and stuff.
Frozenflame replaces Yaya.
I'm open to granting an extension since some replacements will have to catch up and stuff.
wordahdahdah
Omis
my friends were skinny
Yep Im replacing in. I have some serious catch up to play though.
Yeah, get caught up and give us your thoughts, especially since you're replacing the one who has more suspicion on them... Also, doesn't this mean FF needs to be retroactively modkilled n1? XD
Welcome to the game, frozenflame751 and Omis. I hope you guys read up quick and let us know where you stand. It would also be nice if Florida posted.
'Sup everyone.
I'm on page 10 of 18 atm. Will be finishing the reading later and posting. If we're close to deadline, an extension would be nice.
I'm on page 10 of 18 atm. Will be finishing the reading later and posting. If we're close to deadline, an extension would be nice.
We aren't too close to the deadline, but I think with 2 replacements D3 we would be wise to take advantage of TMW's openness to an extension
Handorin
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Oooook here is my post.
In accordance with this game's playstyle I chose, one of the attributes I decided on would be I will claim (kinda) soon. I've already bread crumbed. I would suggest anyone who might have visited junglefevor (the night he died) claim. (I guess you narrowed down my role to two possibilities.)
In accordance with this game's playstyle I chose, one of the attributes I decided on would be I will claim (kinda) soon. I've already bread crumbed. I would suggest anyone who might have visited junglefevor (the night he died) claim. (I guess you narrowed down my role to two possibilities.)
Yeah, reading through all that reminded me exactly why I hate replacing in games this far in. XD
Well anyway, here's what I've gathered:
Stingers ****ing blows at mafia. No joke. I have no idea what kind of twisted strategy he was trying to pull off, but whatever it is, it sucked, and he talked WAY to big for his bite. Whoever told Yaya that he made a poor choice replacing Stingers needs to do a little bit of self reflection. Stingers was the EPITOME of an unmotivated, unhelpful, and deliberately anti-town player. There was absolutely no better choice to forcibly replace, than him.
I've been fairly happy with Macman's performance thus far as his replacement. Since that happened the game actually started getting interesting.
I must say though, you guys REALLY shoved you heads of your ***** during the whole Chaco v. Macman debacle. I've never seen such a tunnel visioned game. You guys let Smashman, marshy, Kevin and mentos more or less sit on the sidelines while your beat your heads against the walls saying the same thing over and over and playing meaningless games of unproductive Q&A. My brain was turning to mush reading the hundreds of posts of you guys drudging around in circles.
Honestly, I couldn't even understand where most of the arguments were coming from. Someone asserted that Chaco was caving under pressure like he did in Newbie Game 1. Are you kidding me? Chaco acted NOTHING like he did after I pinned him in Newbie 1. In that game he went ape**** and freaked out, tired to rush a lynch, and started swearing at people and making outrageous assertions and demands. In this game, all I saw was a naive newb townie getting ganged up on and literally not knowing how to properly fight back. He crumbled, yes, but only in his fortitude. You guys more or less broke his will from what I saw, and though he struggled to gain favor again, he certainly didn't do anything characteristic of his past performance. You guys got too caught up in semantics to fully grasp the impact of yor attacks. You took minor contradictions in opinion to be gamebreaking lies and picked every last thing he said apart, without realizing mistakes do NOT make someone mafia, but mistakes that can be clearly associated with the intent of a mafiat are.
Now that we know that Chaco was town though, I think we can put a lot of that filth behind us.
What I'd like to bring ot the forefront are my two primary suspects. KevinM and Marshy. KevinM has been coasting since the very beginning of Day 2. He's rarely commented on any of the content in the game beyond that point, and when he did, it was very minimalistic. Furthermore, he seems to have a nack for confirming his suspicions and votes just as deadlines approach, a time in this game where the mafia have significantly increased (and in my humble opinion, horrendously overpowered as a result of this games design, for resulting in the highest vote getters lynch at deadlines instead of no lynch) voting power. Marshy is guilty of doing the same. These "chip" votes are the types of things that the mafia can easily get away with, thus highly influence the lynch candidate, and at the same time remain under the radar and barely contribute a thing. I'll be expanding on my suspicions of both of these two later, but I thought I'd lay out a baseline for everyone to see right now. I'll also be holding off on voting at this time for that reason.
And lastly, mentos, why the **** are you trying to make night actions predictable? That is sketchy **** my friend. I believe now would be a good time to come clean with your theories, considering your little role experiment is now lacking a crucial piece.
Well anyway, here's what I've gathered:
Stingers ****ing blows at mafia. No joke. I have no idea what kind of twisted strategy he was trying to pull off, but whatever it is, it sucked, and he talked WAY to big for his bite. Whoever told Yaya that he made a poor choice replacing Stingers needs to do a little bit of self reflection. Stingers was the EPITOME of an unmotivated, unhelpful, and deliberately anti-town player. There was absolutely no better choice to forcibly replace, than him.
I've been fairly happy with Macman's performance thus far as his replacement. Since that happened the game actually started getting interesting.
I must say though, you guys REALLY shoved you heads of your ***** during the whole Chaco v. Macman debacle. I've never seen such a tunnel visioned game. You guys let Smashman, marshy, Kevin and mentos more or less sit on the sidelines while your beat your heads against the walls saying the same thing over and over and playing meaningless games of unproductive Q&A. My brain was turning to mush reading the hundreds of posts of you guys drudging around in circles.
Honestly, I couldn't even understand where most of the arguments were coming from. Someone asserted that Chaco was caving under pressure like he did in Newbie Game 1. Are you kidding me? Chaco acted NOTHING like he did after I pinned him in Newbie 1. In that game he went ape**** and freaked out, tired to rush a lynch, and started swearing at people and making outrageous assertions and demands. In this game, all I saw was a naive newb townie getting ganged up on and literally not knowing how to properly fight back. He crumbled, yes, but only in his fortitude. You guys more or less broke his will from what I saw, and though he struggled to gain favor again, he certainly didn't do anything characteristic of his past performance. You guys got too caught up in semantics to fully grasp the impact of yor attacks. You took minor contradictions in opinion to be gamebreaking lies and picked every last thing he said apart, without realizing mistakes do NOT make someone mafia, but mistakes that can be clearly associated with the intent of a mafiat are.
Now that we know that Chaco was town though, I think we can put a lot of that filth behind us.
What I'd like to bring ot the forefront are my two primary suspects. KevinM and Marshy. KevinM has been coasting since the very beginning of Day 2. He's rarely commented on any of the content in the game beyond that point, and when he did, it was very minimalistic. Furthermore, he seems to have a nack for confirming his suspicions and votes just as deadlines approach, a time in this game where the mafia have significantly increased (and in my humble opinion, horrendously overpowered as a result of this games design, for resulting in the highest vote getters lynch at deadlines instead of no lynch) voting power. Marshy is guilty of doing the same. These "chip" votes are the types of things that the mafia can easily get away with, thus highly influence the lynch candidate, and at the same time remain under the radar and barely contribute a thing. I'll be expanding on my suspicions of both of these two later, but I thought I'd lay out a baseline for everyone to see right now. I'll also be holding off on voting at this time for that reason.
And lastly, mentos, why the **** are you trying to make night actions predictable? That is sketchy **** my friend. I believe now would be a good time to come clean with your theories, considering your little role experiment is now lacking a crucial piece.
Ok, good to see one of our replacements is all caught up, hopefully Omis catches up here shortly. To answer your question FF, I have been weighing out the pros and cons of elaborating entirely on my plan or not. To not go into full detail, but describe at least a little bit, I was thinking Chaco's role was one of two things by the end of the day, and had I remembered that this was a game where the person with the most votes was lynched if there was no majority reached, I would have pushed for everyone to vote for a no lynch. My exact plan couldn't be explained without some extra detail that I'm still trying to decide what the value of outting is, but to put it simply, given the two roles I expected him to have, either one seemed to be beneficial to town should it be used on me. If you would like the full elaboration let me know and I'll go into full detail.
Now, as to suspicions, I agree entirely with you on the fact that town got extremely tunnel-visioned D1 and D2. Although D1 had a good reason due to Stinger's insanely high level of scumminess, D2 just got pulled into Chaco and it didn't end well. I still need to look back a bit, and see if I can catch anything big coming from anyone.
That being said, I am in some agreement with you on Marshy and Kevin. Both of their play reminds me very strongly of their play in HP mafia. Marshy has coasted along quite a bit lately, and on D1 when nearly everyone was suspicious of Stingers, seemed to push the idea that he was town quite hard, which appears to be a way to say, if he had been lynched, "I told you this was a bad idea, he's town!" Kevin on the other hand has lurked more than Marshy, and has been in the back of my head since he continued to push for a Macman lynch after the replacement, when the strongest grounds we had to lynch Stingers was his unhelpfulness, and Mac had already shown that wouldn't continue.
Now, as to suspicions, I agree entirely with you on the fact that town got extremely tunnel-visioned D1 and D2. Although D1 had a good reason due to Stinger's insanely high level of scumminess, D2 just got pulled into Chaco and it didn't end well. I still need to look back a bit, and see if I can catch anything big coming from anyone.
That being said, I am in some agreement with you on Marshy and Kevin. Both of their play reminds me very strongly of their play in HP mafia. Marshy has coasted along quite a bit lately, and on D1 when nearly everyone was suspicious of Stingers, seemed to push the idea that he was town quite hard, which appears to be a way to say, if he had been lynched, "I told you this was a bad idea, he's town!" Kevin on the other hand has lurked more than Marshy, and has been in the back of my head since he continued to push for a Macman lynch after the replacement, when the strongest grounds we had to lynch Stingers was his unhelpfulness, and Mac had already shown that wouldn't continue.
Hey guys something just hit me let's just lynch Florida, Omis, Rockin, or all 3 and see what happens I'll help.
Unvote: whoever, Vote: Rockin
Unvote: whoever, Vote: Rockin
Well... That... Makes... Sense? Care to elaborate at all Marshy?
Florida
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Now, as strange as that comment by Marshy was, that was just blatant OMGUS Florida>_> I really want to hear Marshy's reasoning(honestly I don't think he's stupid enough to try to make a comment like that with nothing to back it up as town or maf) before I consider placing a vote.
even if it was an OMGUS vote, it was justified. If marshy wanted to give reasoning, he would have. Plus the vote helps pressure him to respond.
Florida
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Macman please explain this.
I don't feel like it.