Totally Normal Mafia [Game Over, Town and Independent Win]

[Florida]

Omg that role fails. But I totally believe it.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

HAHAhahahhahaiyuvxuwbewqhaha

I believe that. unvote

 

[Chaco]

It's not nonsensical, just scummy. It reeks of OMGUS. :D
I feel more comfortable with a Chaco lynch over Yaya. IDK if I already have my vote on someone, but in case I do: Unvote, Vote: Chaco

Wow you did just the same thing I pointed out earlier, surprise, surprise.

I'll respond to Mentos in just one second....Florida WTF...

Mac wasn't the top on the replacement list, did you even check? Omis was.

 

[Yaya]

I checked Omis' profile previous to me sending my action in, it said he had not been on since the 5th, which makes me believe that's why they replaced him with Macman instead of Omis.

 

[Florida]

Lol I'm checking into everything right now, going through yaya's posts. Can't find anything, but I haven't checked them all. My previous post was just a first reaction.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Can I see the breadcrumb.

 

[tmw_redcell]

Vote Count:

(2) Chaco: Rockin, Florida
(1) Yaya: Marshy
(1) Rockin: Handorin
(1) Mentosman: Chaco

(5) Not voting: Mentosman, Yaya, Smashman, KevinM, Macman

With 10 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
A deadline has been set for the very last second of August 2nd (Midnight EST).

 

[mentosman8]

Lol that is so so SO much more suspicious a claim than Chaco's. If you would kindly link us to your "bread-crumbing" that would be nice, but honestly I don't see a mod putting a role in that removes a possible replacement when it is not necessary. For right now, due to that insanely ridiculous role-claim, I'm going to Unvote while I consider what's the better option here.

 

[Chaco]

In response to these two posts:

You didn't prove it wrong at all, you just said you didn't think so. And also, if Mac had gotten double voting abilities that WERE hidden(which isn't always the case), don't you think he would have, ya know, told us by now to prevent you from being lynched(as it would essentially prove your role)?

Protective role is more than just unlikely. As I said, when you have a self-protecting doctor there is pretty much always a drawback to it. Otherwise you could claim D1 and repeatedly use your power on yourself to stay a cleared townie alive through the whole game, which is wholly overpowered.

Next, I don't know why you reference vig and silencer(and yes, a self-targeting silencer IS a useful power) when you agree they can't be what you are. Just because I listed other reasons that are more valid means it's suspicious?

And, first of all, you were the one who stated you could visit yourself, AND ruled out cop due to being able to self visit, so how am I scummy for agreeing with you that some roles can be disproven by your ability to self visit, when you said the same thing yourself? You are definitely OMGUS voting, and my vote on you is definitely staying through the remainder of the day unless you actually manage to come up with something that makes me less confident in it. What I posted was a perfectly legitimate line of reasoning, so I don't see how it makes me voteworthy.

Well I'm really not going to even respond to this. If you lynch me it's for the good of the town, maybe then the ***** slap wake up call to you people will finally make you realize what I've been saying is the truth.

Self-Sacrifice seems to be the way to go right now for the good of the town.

Unvote
Vote:Chaco (Myself)

I hope I can do that.

 

[Yaya]

What makes me think he is a Jester is the fact he has been happy with votes on him, he's been putting down town, and yet hasn't come up with anything useful for us to discuss, I don't see how the Can't NOT be a Jester.

He's a burden to the town, and unless something comes up, I say we lynch him today.

This was within an hour of the replacement, it's a fairly small one, but one none the less.

 

[Chaco]

You could've just flipped that for your claim.

Unvote

Like my self sacrifice vote? I did.

 

[Florida]

Chaco that's idiotc.
And Yaya that breadcrumb is blegh.

 

[Yaya]

Now that's what we call WIFOM, Chaco.

 

[Chaco]

WTF is that...?

Also, does Yaya claiming that ridiculous role help you believe mine Mentos?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Chaco, do not EVER self vote, that is the most intolerable ****. **** it. vote: chaco

It's not the town's fault that you acted scummy. It isn't our fault that you are a lynch candidate.

Policy lynch.

 

[Chaco]

Geez Mac, getting a little steamed under the collar? I'm only doing what's good for the town, eh. Plus it was a joke~ Lighten up.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

nvm unvote

I think i'm done with this thread for some time.

yaya tht was barely a breadcrumb. I just think the irony of tht role is hilarious.

 

[Chaco]

Also, if anything, how would that help town?

 

[Yaya]

WIFOM = Wine In Front of Me

It's a homage to the movie, the Princess Bride, in which one scene the hero and a cicillian fight eachother in a battle of wits, where there are two glasses of wine, one of which poisoned and the other not, one will have to decide which one is safe, and then drink that, if he's wrong, he will die, if he is right, the other dies.

Also, you slipped up, why would you vote yourself with such a powerful role like a cop?

You attempted to make a noble sacrifice to look town, but in that, you just dug your grave deeper.

 

[Yaya]

Also, it helps Town because I replaced stingers with somebody who has posted useful insight towards Town.

 

[Chaco]

I didn't dig my grave deeper at all, and if you had read I said I didn't have cop.

That doesn't help town really...still, that could easily be a mafia weapon.

Also, I believe Mashad and Tom duped us with the title.

 

[Florida]

If Yaya's roleclaim is true then that has got to be the absolute worst role I've ever heard of. That just completely kills the fun for some random person.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: mentos

He is most likely to be scum. In case you guys have yet to realize, the name "totally normal" seems to be a misnomer. These odd roles would make sense to me. Mentos has spoke loudly against both of these roles, however I think if he had such an odd role he wouldn't be so hesitant to believe it.

He has also come up on my radar before. And there was other reasons behind this choice but I don't feel like delving deeper right now.

 

[Chaco]

Hmm, I agree and had already voted Mentos, but took it off for my joke.

Re-Vote: Mentos

 

[Yaya]

If Yaya's roleclaim is true then that has got to be the absolute worst role I've ever heard of. That just completely kills the fun for some random person.

That was my exact reaction to receiving the role, it was kind of tough to make the decision to replace Stingers, having to balance out if he was Town, Jester, another problem arising later, and just being a prick to stingers.

 

[Florida]

Mentos has spoke loudly against both of these roles, however I think if he had such an odd role he wouldn't be so hesitant to believe it.

I don't like this argument, though. My role isn't so odd either... lol. I'm completely confused right now.

 

[mentosman8]

So Mac, you have a strange role too? Just because we have two very strange role-claims(neither of which I trust just yet) doesn't mean everyone's has to be. Isn't it more pro-town behavior to question unusual roles than to trust them blindly just because they are? Also, I never "Spoke loudly against" Yaya's role, in fact, while I said it was a very strange claim which made me suspicious, I unvoted Chaco at that point while considering what was going on. If you have something else about me, get it up there, because the argument you just posted was terribly weak.

 

[mentosman8]

Also Chaco, your question about if Yaya's claim made me believe yours any more, that was answered before you asked it. I unvoted(although apparently my original vote was never countedXD) after his claim because it did make me a bit more wary about it. I do not fully believe either claim, and yours still seems potentially dangerous to the town since we have no idea what it does. However, I am less confident lynching you based on it because of the other strange role claim, so I unvoted.

Also, Chaco, does your PM specify that you can target dead people by any chance? This could click with my original thought of your role, and so I would like to know to see if I can piece a use for it together.

 

[Chaco]

It doesn't say but actually I was just wiki'ing that. I know what your thinking, and I'll see toNight.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Also Chaco, your question about if Yaya's claim made me believe yours any more, that was answered before you asked it. I unvoted(although apparently my original vote was never countedXD) after his claim because it did make me a bit more wary about it. I do not fully believe either claim, and yours still seems potentially dangerous to the town since we have no idea what it does. However, I am less confident lynching you based on it because of the other strange role claim, so I unvoted.

Bu t surely his claim wasn't the only reason you voted for him?

 

[Chaco]

Since this is such a weird mafia, I'm just gonna throw the idea out. Role claim?

 

[Florida]

No. That just helps the Mafia.

 

[Chaco]

well some of these roles are so weird, I'm not entirely sure of that. Also, it was just a question, I wouldn't want one today anyways.

 

[mentosman8]

Mac: Of course it wasn't the only reason I voted him, I voted long before his role-claim. However, with the introduction of another strange role claim, it makes his claim slightly more believable, and if his claim is real he is town aligned, so it wouldn't help us to lynch him. Is it really odd for me to not be as sure voting someone when their claim seems at least believable enough to have me question if it's real or not, and is claimed as a townie role? In fact, that's what I would expect from anyone.

Chaco: Don't risk using your power on Jungle if you are able to use it on the dead. If you have the power I was thinking when I asked that, it is a waste to use it on him. If we both live to tonight, I want you to target me so I have a better idea of what it does.

Honestly, now that I'm more uneasy about a Chaco lynch, I believe Marshy is the next on my list to follow. He was all for voting Yaya for coasting, when he has been coasting just as much. Add to that my early suspicion of his quick jump on the vote for egruntz, and his insistence on saying Macman is clear make me very uneasy with him. I feel he is my next best choice after Chaco, and until I have better insight as to Chaco's role, I don't think voting him is the best option.

As for the role-claim, definitely not today(although at this rate it appears we will have 3 claimed at least by the end of the day, as I am one short of L-2 and if no one unvotes me shortly, before I go to bed in 3-4 hours probably, I am going to claim so we don't waste a lynch.)

 

[Chaco]

That's what I was thinking using it on him would be useless, but I'll do as you say.

 

[mentosman8]

Good good, the more I've thought about it, I've come up with two potential powers that could be reasonably connected to your role, one of which is eliminated if you can't use it on the dead. I also want to see if I get anything interesting using it on me(for the more unlikely third possibility), which is why I would like you to use it on me tonight. Also, I would really like if you or Mac unvoted me so I'm not claiming by the end of the night(or, if you guys are set, let me know so I can get it over with sooner than later)

 

[Chaco]

Unvote.

I feel like you're still think you're a bit suspicious, but eh.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Mac: Of course it wasn't the only reason I voted him, I voted long before his role-claim. However, with the introduction of another strange role claim, it makes his claim slightly more believable, and if his claim is real he is town aligned, so it wouldn't help us to lynch him. Is it really odd for me to not be as sure voting someone when their claim seems at least believable enough to have me question if it's real or not, and is claimed as a townie role? In fact, that's what I would expect from anyone.

But his role was never what made him scummy. You say that because there is a slight chance that his role is real that you wouldn't want to lynch him. So if he claimed an actual real role, like maybe vanilla, bulletproof or anything else for that matter, you wouldn't lynch him? Are you telling me you just wanted him to roleclaim? Also, everything you said about his role was valid and I don't see how that would change now that you know yaya's role.

What do you think of yaya now that you know his role?

 

[Rockin]

Okay, first of all: Good lord on Yaya's role claim. I don't know what to believe anymore. Yaya's role sounds so whacky, though yet again, it wasn't like stingers wasn't inactive.

Chaco, don't ever vote self anymore, not even as a joke. >>;;

It seems this Totally normal Mafia isn't so Totally Normal at all. When Jungle dies, he came up as 'strawberry', not Vanilla townie. It seems everyone (and even Mafia, possibly) may have a wacky-ish role, and that may could prove a problem in roleclaiming =/

speaking of roleclaiming, it's a bit too early to do it. It should wait farther down on the line.

Right now, this may may end up with a no lynch again... T____T;;

 

[mentosman8]

Mac: Since when do role-claims NOT affect if you are willing to lynch someone? Would you push a lynch on someone who was an un-counter-claimed doctor, or cop? I don't fully believe either of the role-claims, but having two strange claims(and after looking back, Yaya's breadcrumb seems more realistic) makes me more inclined to believe there's a chance they're real. Do I think Chaco is town now? No. Do I have enough reasonable doubt to not try to lynch him today without more insight and possibly cop/tracker/watcher/whatever confirmations? Very much yes.

Now, I didn't think Yaya was scum before his role claim, as he always glides along with this. He was the MAIN character in HP mafia, and did the same thing. His claim is a little bit believable, strange for sure, and somewhat unlikely, but I won't vote him right now, especially after re-reading his posts right around where Stingers was replaced.

On top of what I said about Chaco, I have actually recently come up with a reasonable role that could fit it. Is it potentially dangerous to the town? Yes. Is it a real role, with potential to help us? Yes. So for right now, I want some insight into it before I make a decision on him.