I see. What would you do then? If chaco was lynched and turned up town?
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Totally Normal Mafia [Game Over, Town and Independent Win]
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Handorin
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Regardless of outcome:
Look back.
Who did Chaco suspect and why? If he is a PR, will it add more weight?
What were the reactions of the interactions?
Did he breadcrumb anything?
Then obviously look for new things in general. (Basically your answer)
Look back.
Who did Chaco suspect and why? If he is a PR, will it add more weight?
What were the reactions of the interactions?
Did he breadcrumb anything?
Then obviously look for new things in general. (Basically your answer)
I said SIMILAR, not the same.
The similar thing about you and stinger is that both you posted in ways that makes ya seem very suspicious. However, there was a difference in posts.
His way of posting was arrogant and him either putting down on others or wasn't co-operating (well, he was, but meh). This made me see that, while he acted funny, didn't seem like much of a lynch canidate. No need for Mafia to make a lot of attention on ones self (especially SKs). However, your type of posts seemed suspicious cause of how jumpy/defensive you got when little pressure is on you. Also, when people found you suspicious, you just litterally shouted out "If you lynch me, you'll be sorry!". This is why I'm more incline of voting for you, but it's really 50/50 on it only because you're still shouting out "That I'm town." >>
Well Hando, it's not like I would say that I would mourn over him throughout the rest of the day or something lol I'm just saying my honest answer to it. >>
Let's lynch somebody this time please.
Maybe marshy, you can actually contribute instead of these one liners and just voting people and saying you agree with so and so.
Yeah, Isn't there anything you may want to add in terms of Chaco and Macman?
KevinM and Smashman has become silent too >_>;;
I'm hoping we stop wasting time being suspicious of Macman. He's already breadcrumbed his role and with everyone attacking him you have a cleared or Indy at worst which I doubt anyway. Chaco is awfully defensive. Yes yes I know 'It's my style!' but it makes you hard to trust regardless. Oh well.
I could really go for mentos or Yaya at this point. Mentos has just uncharacteristically disappeared and was suspicious anyway, and Yaya is a coasty parrot. I'm considering Handorin because his "case" against Rockin is total crap.
I could really go for mentos or Yaya at this point. Mentos has just uncharacteristically disappeared and was suspicious anyway, and Yaya is a coasty parrot. I'm considering Handorin because his "case" against Rockin is total crap.
Chaco, it's quite funny how you think you have a legit case against me.
And in my case, I pointed out a post where stingers breadcrumbed his role the very day that I replaced as him. So for me to lie I would have had to make up a role that quickly AND found a post stingers made to fit it. Also I do not see what a cop has to do with anything. Unless yu are referring to the point Mentos brought up.
I'm starting to feel like lynching yaya over chaco. Yaya doesn't look as though he will contribute anything to help town because of his coasting/inactivity. Chaco has atleast been posting alot, and I am starting to have doubts... But he is still hella suspicious so I'll leave my vote on him for now.
And in my case, I pointed out a post where stingers breadcrumbed his role the very day that I replaced as him. So for me to lie I would have had to make up a role that quickly AND found a post stingers made to fit it. Also I do not see what a cop has to do with anything. Unless yu are referring to the point Mentos brought up.
I'm starting to feel like lynching yaya over chaco. Yaya doesn't look as though he will contribute anything to help town because of his coasting/inactivity. Chaco has atleast been posting alot, and I am starting to have doubts... But he is still hella suspicious so I'll leave my vote on him for now.
I never said I had a legit case on you, now did I? I've openly expressed my doubts on you.
And as for the cop statement, I took Marshy's "cleared" as cop investigated you and proved you inno. But the sanity of the cop could change that very easily. I'm just pointing out a possibility.
And as for the cop statement, I took Marshy's "cleared" as cop investigated you and proved you inno. But the sanity of the cop could change that very easily. I'm just pointing out a possibility.
It would also be cool if KevinM posted. I'm curious as to what he thinks about smashman and I now.
Smashman is another I have to keep an eye out for, he hasn't really been on my radar
Smashman is another I have to keep an eye out for, he hasn't really been on my radar
Haha yeah, it would be nice to hear from Kev on his thoughts. Right now I'm still leaning toward a Chaco lynch, the main thing that pushed me over the threshold to vote for him, defending himself by suspecting others, still holding. I don't agree with Mac on lynching Yaya solely for inactivity. The vast majority of the time lynching someone who is inactive doesn't work out well, and I don't generally like doing it unless town is in a good position.
@Marshy: I've somewhat disappeared over what was normal in most of the other games I've played here because a lot of the conversation in this game has been back and forths, and I've felt it worked best to watch those unfold and come up with my thoughts on what's going on by the time they break. Also, I am not that suspicious of Macman, but can you please stop saying he is cleared? Just because everyone suspected him d1 does NOT mean he is clear, and as much as I'm leaning town with him, there is no reason to write him off as potential scum.
@everyone: With the deadline looming shortly, and it being a day where we really should lynch, I'd like everyone to let us know who your top FoS is. Obviously mine right now is Chaco, as that's where I have my vote, but I think we need to try to come to a consensus very quick here and give our potential lynchee time to defend themselves and claim if need be.
@Marshy: I've somewhat disappeared over what was normal in most of the other games I've played here because a lot of the conversation in this game has been back and forths, and I've felt it worked best to watch those unfold and come up with my thoughts on what's going on by the time they break. Also, I am not that suspicious of Macman, but can you please stop saying he is cleared? Just because everyone suspected him d1 does NOT mean he is clear, and as much as I'm leaning town with him, there is no reason to write him off as potential scum.
@everyone: With the deadline looming shortly, and it being a day where we really should lynch, I'd like everyone to let us know who your top FoS is. Obviously mine right now is Chaco, as that's where I have my vote, but I think we need to try to come to a consensus very quick here and give our potential lynchee time to defend themselves and claim if need be.
Also marshy, just because you made a post with actual content, doesn't mean your off the hook. ...doc test .01
test 11 tor?
I'm still keeping my eye on you.
test 11 tor?
I'm still keeping my eye on you.
I don't feel comfortable with a Yaya lynch by inactiveness. We could just wait for Day 3 (if he survives) and have him replaced. There's no need to ask for one when deadline is looming cause that'll just complicate things like it did in D1.
can anyone breadcrumb? Yes. Can anyone breadcrumb and get AWAY with it? Not likely.
There's a slim chance of a flavor cop in a Mafia game. I say slim cause I have yet to see a flavor cop that always reads guilty or something.
smashman90
Smash Lord
Sorry guys for being inactive, I've been losing interest in this game and I am contemplating about asking to be replaced.
I don't think we should lynch Yaya for inactivity. I would prefer more evidence that shows Yaya as mafia before voting on him. And I don't think that Yaya's lynch would give us much information and that makes me think that yaya's lynch wouldn't be beneficial to everybody save for the mafia. I think Chaco would be the best choice for a lynch today, I've been suspicious of him due to his voting habits on Day 1 and I don't like the way he's been defending himself on Day 2.
I don't think we should lynch Yaya for inactivity. I would prefer more evidence that shows Yaya as mafia before voting on him. And I don't think that Yaya's lynch would give us much information and that makes me think that yaya's lynch wouldn't be beneficial to everybody save for the mafia. I think Chaco would be the best choice for a lynch today, I've been suspicious of him due to his voting habits on Day 1 and I don't like the way he's been defending himself on Day 2.
I took a look at this again and realize I made a small error in my last post about it.
I have yet to see anyone actually breadcrumb a lie about their role, since a breadcrumb is, IMO, a hint as to who they are/what role they have. Even if they still do it, they would have to bring it up to case without getting counter claimed.
I'm sick of this ****, my vote is on smashman and it's staying but this is the second time the person I fall into suspicion of asks for a replacement 2/3 days before the deadline like wtf.
Lol Kev suspicion=causes replacements... Do I hear a role restriction hereXD(jk obviously)
Handorin
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maybe it is. You don't really know
I'm starting to doubt that Chaco is mafia because of his eagerness to roleclaim.
And those saying they don't want to lynch based on inactivity/coasting; than what should we do with them? It's way too easy for mafioso to post once every few days, just enough so that they aren't forced to get replaced by the game mod. But not enough for anyone to get a read on them. If you don't punish them for this, mafia gets an easy way out.
unvote, vote: yaya
Hando, I do not get the point of your post at all.
And those saying they don't want to lynch based on inactivity/coasting; than what should we do with them? It's way too easy for mafioso to post once every few days, just enough so that they aren't forced to get replaced by the game mod. But not enough for anyone to get a read on them. If you don't punish them for this, mafia gets an easy way out.
unvote, vote: yaya
Hando, I do not get the point of your post at all.
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it's just that lately I've been watching a bunch of detective/investigative stuff to help me rely less on flavor and mechanics and more on tells. I just got on a thought train and believe I was on to something, I can see why others might not agree though.
I'll be honest, unlike Mac, Chaco's eagerness to claim actually makes me a bit more suspicious of him. Why is this? Eagerness to claim can easily be used as a pseudo-defense when a scum is trying to hide, being used to try to convince town they are outting something if they continue to vote them, and town becomes wary and backs off and they live to fight another day.
On top of that, with the deadline creeping closer and closer, and him looking like the leading lynch candidate, he continued to say he wouldn't claim until L-2, all the while insinuating he had a power role. Now, at that point, all waiting until L-2 would be doing is wasting time away, inching us closer to another no lynch, and giving less time for anyone to counter-claim. All in all, I don't like the way his insistence on getting himself to L-2 to claim feels, and my vote stands on him.
On top of that, with the deadline creeping closer and closer, and him looking like the leading lynch candidate, he continued to say he wouldn't claim until L-2, all the while insinuating he had a power role. Now, at that point, all waiting until L-2 would be doing is wasting time away, inching us closer to another no lynch, and giving less time for anyone to counter-claim. All in all, I don't like the way his insistence on getting himself to L-2 to claim feels, and my vote stands on him.
Yeah, I think I made my decision.
Vote: Chaco
And I still think we should wait till at least the next day so we can get a replacement and they can join us upon our discussion.
Vote: Chaco
And I still think we should wait till at least the next day so we can get a replacement and they can join us upon our discussion.
How will we get a replacement if yaya continues to post? Neither we nor the the GM can force him to be replaced if he posts just enough so that he doesn't break any of the inactivity rules.
The thing is that Yaya is known for always inactive. He may post...once or twice and then begone till he's either mentioned by us (when I say this, I mean us asking the GMs to prod him) or when the GMs themselves prod him. I understand if you have a lot of stuff on your plate and things may not be going your way, but Yaya has been promised to be more active starting this game.
It doesn't matter if he promised or not. He hasn't been doing anything to make me think he will be more active/not coast. Also, just because he has been inactive in other games, doesn't mean we should excuse it in this one. It's too easy for mafia to just coast all game and noone is willing to punish them for it and stop it from happening.
Like Marshy in HPMafia. M3D basically told us through his flavor that he was scum at the beginning of the game. So marshy essentially stopped posting much and tried his best to stay out of the spotlight. We all eventually forgot about him and noone voiced any suspicion of him after that. Marshy was able to essentially coast to victory. We should not let that happen here.
Like Marshy in HPMafia. M3D basically told us through his flavor that he was scum at the beginning of the game. So marshy essentially stopped posting much and tried his best to stay out of the spotlight. We all eventually forgot about him and noone voiced any suspicion of him after that. Marshy was able to essentially coast to victory. We should not let that happen here.
wow, I know we got a lynch to do and whatnot, and I don't care if Macman says I'm meatriding but
Marshy is too **** good.
Marshy is too **** good.
So you'd rather me claim now Mentos? If you want I can. This discussion is all but over, and all you're doing is waiting on inactives and a deadline. In fact, Im gonna claim now because Im tired of wasting this day. I have Amnesia, and to be honest I know very little about my role. All I know is, I have a night action but after I use it I can't remember what I did. I used my action on Mac N1 and you can all clearly see he is unharmed. Also, it's a possibility Im an amnesiac cop, but if that's the case Id have to send in two names. One to inspect an the other to send the result to. But I don't think that's the case, I think Its some other action. But my allignment is pro town.
...Amnesia? what the ****?
Macman, did anything at all happen to you or any special PM you got?
Macman, did anything at all happen to you or any special PM you got?
Hm.... If I'm guessing what role that refers to right, in all honesty it may not be entirely bad to lynch you. I'm assuming this means you're an amnesiac(a role which can become a dead role), which is very dangerous for town as they can take mafia and mess up town. Now, if that isn't the role that you actually have, then your role seems... Well, useless really. I'll need to think about this a bit more, and if there is any info you're withholding please put it up, as right now it seems as though you are claiming a visiting vanilla townie, which is an odd role.
lolwut.
You are saying, you can visit people but you do not know what the effect is?
Did you get any kind of name with the role?
Why would you think you were an amn cop and would have to send in 2 names?
I don't even know. Basically I have a night action but I don't know what it does.
You think a role with a power is useless? That's not entirely a townie outlook. It could be protecting someone, giving them doublevoting abilities, or so on. Who really know.
Yep.
Nope, just said amnesia.
Because I researched all amnesia and mafia stuff for about 2 hours and the only thing I could find was amnesiac cop. BUT this however could be a role they made. I really have no earthly clue, and I'm not gonna lie about it.
And because amnesiac cop has to send in two names.
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Amnesiac_Cop
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Amnesiac_Cop