Top 5 Marth placings (You know who you are)

[mikeHAZE]

all my secondary's suck against MK so i have to stay marth lol

 

[_Kadaj_]

Lol ^

 

[zCasanova]

Brawl Singles
10/16/2008
16-man bracket

1 Devin (Marth) - $70.00
2 Peter (Ike) - $20.00
3 Crio (Ness/Fox/ROB/D3) - $10.00
4 Bo (Lucario)
5 Billy (ROB)
5 Jman (Sonic)
7 JoeC (DK)
7 ARS (Falcon)
9 Decoy (Kirby/Pika)
9 Michael (Samus)

 

[Emblem Lord]

Nothing wrong with using a cp.

My beef with Inui was that he had the balls to brag like he was doing something with Marth when in reality his Marth was ***.

But forcing yourself to do a 65/35 match-up doesn't make you honorable.

It makes you a ****ing moron.

 

[aeghrur]

Nothing wrong with using a cp.

My beef with Inui was that he had the balls to brag like he was doing something with Marth when in reality his Marth was ***.

But forcing yourself to do a 65/35 match-up doesn't make you honorable.

It makes you a ****ing moron.

Sucks for me then, I'm a sonic main, all my match-ups are 70/30. Just look at some of our sigs, lol.

 

[ChaosKnight]

Nothing wrong with using a cp.

My beef with Inui was that he had the balls to brag like he was doing something with Marth when in reality his Marth was ***.

But forcing yourself to do a 65/35 match-up doesn't make you honorable.

It makes you a ****ing moron.

Lawl at 65/35 how bout 60/40 give marth some credit >_>

metaknight is still a ***** but i would face a metaknight without saying omg im in a losing matchup >_>

i wanna see how many of the Marth back room actually go to tourneys >_>

 

[Steel]

Lawl at 65/35 how bout 60/40 give marth some credit >_>

metaknight is still a ***** but i would face a metaknight without saying omg im in a losing matchup >_>

i wanna see how many of the Marth back room actually go to tourneys >_>

Most.. if not all do, but what does it matter? Doesn't change the fact that Metas still on a different level than Marth.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Lawl at 65/35 how bout 60/40 give marth some credit >_>

metaknight is still a ***** but i would face a metaknight without saying omg im in a losing matchup >_>

i wanna see how many of the Marth back room actually go to tourneys >_>

A 65:35 matchup is not necessarily saying the character on the losing end is a bad character, because we all know Marth is a good character.



And I'm not in the MBR but I can tell you that most of them would not be in the MBR if they didn't go to tourneys. And I'm sure all of them have gone to a tourney.

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

***** you use snake too



yo these rating things need to be refined tbh


anyone that cp's a top tier when their marth isn't cutting it, which can be quite often if MK is involved shouldn't be added to the marth placings


this is nothing against you HRNUT, inui used to try to pull this bull**** where he would use snake in matches that actually mattered then say he placed with marth. imo it just isn't fair for actual marth mainers who use marth through and through

i understand that but as of now, i have no mk to practice against with marth so when i do fight one i usually go snake because i have that match figured out with snake, i never said that i've ever gone all marth, but i try to play him as much as possible during a tourney, i'm not bragging like inui about how amazing my marth is, as you've seen here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmZYuSVupKg

i actually know how to handle alot of top tier characters with him, but it gets stressful to have to play so carefully sometimes, i'm gonna try to help advance the metagame along with everyone else and help out where i can, i know the fights its just i hate them, yeah i know it sound like i'm complaining but i understand if i should be taken out of the marth placings, i don't mind...even if you look at the power rankings for florida i'm number 9 and next to my name it doesn't say marth it says random box because i've been known through out the state to use alot of character, especially olimar, snake, marth, diddy, DK, MK, Zelda, Falco, G&W and Link, i enjoy playing alot of character but i call marth my main because imo he's my most skilled character (and favorite) many people have even said so around the state, even when me and my teamate were doing doubles, i played snake in grand finals for like one match then we lost then i switched to marth and we started winning, however i suicided in the last match of the set like twice so we ended up losing lol

here's that match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRXz6lyb_Vg

but yeah i understand what you are saying NEO.

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

Nothing wrong with using a cp.

My beef with Inui was that he had the balls to brag like he was doing something with Marth when in reality his Marth was ***.

But forcing yourself to do a 65/35 match-up doesn't make you honorable.

It makes you a ****ing moron.

thats true EL, the match-up itself is that bad, i've come to hate that match because every MK that i've fought just spams tornado and even when i spam counter and move out of the way for the tornado i put myself in a more dangerous situation by going in the air, the problem is that for this match you literally have to be one step ahead of the MK or else you'll get *****, i've beaten some good metaknights with marth but after fighting M2K with marth i realized that that match is harder than i thought it was, maybe if i played m2k on the regular then maybe i'd feel better with the match so, i've come to use snake because i've actually taken a match off of him with snake...at the same time i don't think it makes you a moron,

NEO, have you ever fought M2K with marth, how well have you done (i'm not trying to get smart, this is just out of curiousity)

however my marth has improved alot since the last time i fought him

 

[_Kadaj_]

Lawl at 65/35 how bout 60/40 give marth some credit >_>

i wanna see how many of the Marth back room actually go to tourneys >_>

lol me to ck

But i go to tournys all the time and im in the Marth BackRoom


Neo went last stock with m2k i was right behind them when they played

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

wow, thats awesome, is there any video footage because i'd love to see how he does it, i can't ever practice against metaknights so fighting them in tourney is always a ***** since i never get any good experience in the match

 

[Shaya]

No matter how much my Marth improves, the best Meta Knights in my country will always win. Yes it will always be down to the last stock UNLESS I get ****ed over really easily, but it's just not -fair- how hard you have to try to out do MK.

Not even Dolphin Slash is so useful, considering most of MK's moves can be fast falled if they hit your shield to auto cancel and then punish you for daring to use Marth's best defensive strategy. Most MK's I know only glide attack when they're extremely close to the ground to avoid DS as well. Dtilt to dash grab with MK is too good; MK's faster than your retreating fairs can handle. Yada yada moan moan.

It's not always that bad, but it definitely is very easy to beat Marth with MK if you know what you're doing. But that's because I play against MK so often. I definitely would do better against most Marths while using MK than the average 'better' MK would (in my opinion).

Also, the MBR is nothing but a bunch of Marth mainers talking about how much Meta Knight is gay... DUE TO TOURNAMENTS. Hence our perception of the Marth:Meta match up is completely unbiased and very accurate.

I for one welcome our New 'Moss' Kong over lord

 

[feardragon64]

Does the mk on dk's tie stand for meta knight or moss kong?

 

[ChaosKnight]

lol me to ck

But i go to tournys all the time and im in the Marth BackRoom


Neo went last stock with m2k i was right behind them when they played

yea like seriously Meta knight isnt too much of a ***** lol i can fight any metankight besides the REALLY good ones which are like 1 or 2 and its always last stock with them


Grab release is your friend with metaknight

 

[Emblem Lord]

When good Marth's consistently lose to MK's of equal skill and sometimes worse skill we have to acknowledge that the match really can't be 60/40.

65/35 seems more appropriate and the tournament data supports this.

 

[TheRazaman]

Cyberjocks Smash Cash Tourney
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=5173382&postcount=1
NEO placed 2nd out of 40.

 

[Emblem Lord]

And he lost to an MK.

And judging from the rankings..he had to beat several MK's which proves the point that if you do several bad match-ups in a row...sooner or later...you are going down.

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

sad to see him lose to plank, i'm impressed with NEO but i'd like to see him consistently beat M2K and i'll believe that its 60:40 i'm sorry but i have to agree with EL 65:35 cuz trust me i'm way better than the MKs that i used to lose to, I mean way better, the fight however is just not in marths favor.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

Nothing wrong with using a cp.

My beef with Inui was that he had the balls to brag like he was doing something with Marth when in reality his Marth was ***.

But forcing yourself to do a 65/35 match-up doesn't make you honorable.

It makes you a ****ing moron.

No one said anything about honorable or being a moron, we're talking about Marth (MARTH) placings. If we all wanted the best possible match up ratio all of the time we would main Metaknight. Roy_r is nasty, he gets top 5 with Marth and only Marth. If a "Marth main" gets top 5 with Marth and Snake-or-MK-everytime-he-has-to-face-a-metaknight (just so happened he faced 3 metaknights in one tourney) how is that fair for (or accurate) for a Marth placings thread? Obviously if you would've lost with Marth vs MK so you picked Snake instead and THEN you got top 5 with Marth, you're just further falsifying the Marth placings (because they're already skewed) I thought we were going for accuracy here, not just making it look like Marth is placing high.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

yea like seriously Meta knight isnt too much of a ***** lol i can fight any metankight besides the REALLY good ones which are like 1 or 2 and its always last stock with them


Grab release is your friend with metaknight

I don't get posts like these. CK why do you assume you're good against -any- Metaknight WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

He has so many potential styles you can't possibly....



Consider all options my friend, or you have limited yourself

 

[ChaosKnight]

Welll when random people go metaknight against me and i tend to 2 stock then i get cocky tell them to stop getting my hopes up >_>

 

[Emblem Lord]

NEO: All I implied was that if you want to WIN, you need to cp.

If your goal is to show Marth's potential then clearly you need to go all Marth.

 

[Shaya]

MK is a top tier character that happens to counter Marth with Marth's own play style.

Marth is a perfect character to use against every other character in the game to do well consistantly.

Yes MK is a dominant force, and my Marth is up there with the only characters I have who can handle him. However, using Snake or MK himself is definitely more safer against MK. But my use of MK and Snake would be less effective against the rest of the cast compared to my Marth.

In other words, the tacticial champion in progress, knowing when to bring out something when his current hand is not powerful enough.

So how does this completely skew Marth's character placements? It's worthy of being even/steven. Hell I've only brought out MK or Snake twice in my entire tournament career, only within the losers bracket and only when I lost the first match using Marth. Next opponent I stayed (in one case) MK and lost and went back to Marth and won.

What I'm trying to say is, is there are two different 'schools' of MK styles, one where Marth will be highly effective, and the other where Shield camping nades with Snake will be more effective. You go to tournaments to learn, grow and if you believe you're good enough - WIN.

An exceptional Marth you have NEO, but it's not your character that's helping you beat MKs, its the other skills you employ that do.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

NEO: All I implied was that if you want to WIN, you need to cp.

If your goal is to show Marth's potential then clearly you need to go all Marth.

I'm not talking about me, I was talking about Marth ratings placement. If you get 4th at a tournament and you fight 3 MK's with Snake, you did not get 4th with Marth and therefore should not be added to Marth ratings. It's not rocket science.

 

[Pierce7d]

I've placed well with Marth before this, but I won this, and thought I'd share it. 28 people.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=197124

 

[Steel]

Doubles

1: We Have Some Pie (ChiboSempai + Rogue Pit)
2: I Don't Know (Velocity + RyokoYaksa)
3: PA Sucks **** (Umbreon + Terner)
4: Burrito Royal (BSChung + Munk)
5: Scoops Haagen Dazs (UltimoDragon + Boxman)
5: Vexzax (Vex Kasrani + Xzax)
7: MBR (Steel2nd + Pierce7d) marth doubles /failed
7: Cheap (Ussi + Genesis)
9: PA's Worst (Grape **** + Chaser)
9: Q (Mike + Max)
9: North East Kings (Beat + Cless)
9: The A Team (Pat + Snaky)

Singles

1: Pierce7d WIN
2: RyokoYaksa
3: Velocity
4: UltimoDragon
5: Andy
5: Max
7: Boxman
7: Munk
9: Xzax
9: Steel2nd FAIL, though i have rusty johns ^_^
9: Rogue Pit
9: BSChung
13: ChiboSempai
13: Beat
13: Ussi
13: Vex Kasrani
17: Wind Owl
17: Snaky
17: Cylf
17: Genesis
17: Mike
17: .com
17: Terner
17: Cless
25: Justin
25: PowerPC
25: Grape ****
25: Andrea
25: Bnzaaa
25: Chaser

 

[Dr Peepee]

Gooood stuff Pierce.

For rustiness johns, you did pretty well yourself in my opinion Steel.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Nice job Pierce! You too Steel (rustiness FTL though...) and your team did OK, overall way to rep Marth.

 

[Pierce7d]

Steel was pretty rusty, but we'll do better in teams next time.

 

[Emblem Lord]

So like....I'm bored.

Pierce....come to my house...and bring some of your friends.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Lol... Have you guys ever met?

 

[Pierce7d]

So like....I'm bored.

Pierce....come to my house...and bring some of your friends.

I'll ask Brian now.

And yes Solid, we've met.

 

[Emblem Lord]

Ok, lemme know what he says in a pm.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

That's cool. I wish I knew people here...

 

[Shaya]

I wish I could rock on up to EL's house and discuss the finer points of wine, dining and sophistication ;_;.

Then finish it off with sweaty hands while playing Brawl with L cancelling.

 

[ChaosKnight]

We did pools so people got there monies worth and this is the 12 man bracket
1: Candy [Snake/Wolf] ($138.00)
2: Kornnnnn~ [Metaknight/DDD] ($69.00)
3: CK [Marth] ($23.00) <-----------------Sexy marth
4: Boss [Mario/Luigi]
5: toasty [R.O.B.]
5: Kadaj [Marth] <---- ------------------Sexy marth
7: DragonCharlz [R.O.B./Snake(?)]
7: Gonzo [Kirby]
9: Whodat [Olimar/???]
9: SSR [Peach]
9: D0N [DK]
9: Pyronic Star [Olimar]

 

[Dr Peepee]

Your matches (and Kadaj's) were really good man. Great job on 3rd btw.

 

[SwordmasterXXXI]

Nice. Id go to a Tournament, but Toronto's smash scene isn't that big and the closest tourney to me is about an hour and a half away. >_<

 

[Anomic_Punk]

Some results from a GA tournament:

Doubles-

1. FullMetal+Desu (Marth/D3)
2. BigLu+Icekid (Luigi+Zelda)
3. Reflex+Kismet (Wario+Falco)

I forget results after that... but there were 10 teams

Singles-

1. Reflex (Wario/Ike/P.T.)
2. Kismet (Falco)
3. BigLu (Luigi)
4. Desu (D3)
5. FullMetal (Marth)
5. Ryanarius (Pit)

I forget results, they haven't put up the bracket yet, but singles had either 38 or 40 entrants.