GeneralWoodman
Smash Lord
Kalm gets scared when i start dash dancing xd
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Why do you think so?link vs ganon is no worse then 60-40
Yeah, if the Link sucks.link vs ganon is no worse then 60-40
Actually the rules about SDs are the same with every character...if Ganondorf pulls it off on the last stock...than he wins...if Kirby/other get it on the last stock...then they win (Sudden Death is never played in said event of it coming up IIRC)I'm pretty sure Inhale wins, since it has more range, but I'm not entirely sure.
Doesn't really matter either way though. If Kirby's trying to get an inhale offstage, either he's going for the footstool gimp, or, more likely, Kirbiciding. On last stock, this would go to Sudden death. With SBR rules, I believe Kirby wins the match.
If Ganon gets the Gerudo, either we get the same result (and I believe there's no rule for Ganon's Gerudo suicide for some dumb reason), or Ganon dies first and loses.
You can wait for Ganon to do something, but then it becomes a game of chicken, where both players are attempting to zone the other and waiting for something big to happen. You don't want to be predicted and then get caught in a Thunderstorm or Flame Choke from Ganon because it could lead to serious damage. Considering how fast most character's tilts/jabs/grabs are, Ganondorf has pathetic OOS options, so in my opinion, it'd be more rewarding for Kirby to pressure Ganon's shield and then get inside to put some hurt on Ganon because Ganon's not going to be able to do much against it.By no means am i an expert in this game and i hardly ever play it, but while i agree with most of what clai says, what is it that actually makes kirby have to approach in this matchup? Normally i would agree, but against ganon simply waiting for ganon to do something should suffice, no? I also don't quite understand why kirby really should be in the air so much in this particular matchup or how someone thinks kirbys ground game is directly bad. And with his edgeguarding added to this, how come the conclusion is that his matchup with ganon is considered so relatively bad compared to other characters in the same tier?
I'm just curious, i'm probably completely wrong. With hardly ever playing brawl, especially against people my first attempt/idea would, outside maybe being a little agressive with all the things mentioned here, simply spacing myself out with retreating SH Bair and Utilts, just waiting for ganon. I suppose i would have to worry about the jab (can kirby crouch under that?) and dtilt though. But still that's no really all that scary is it? I would also imagine that kirby's size in general would just be annoying for ganon.
I'm not sure where you got that quote from, but that statement is simply inaccurate. Ganon-MK is really around the 1-9 area, but while the Wario matchup is certainly a lot better than 2-8, he's certainly not a counter. The grab-release on Wario certainly makes the matchup wholly winnable (around 4-6), as long as you're patient and play conservatively until the opportunity to grab Wario arises."However, due to grab release chaingrabs, he has a decent Meta Knight matchup (around 45/55), and is one of the best Wario counters in the game despite his tier placement."
The picture you have has MK 1-9 and Wario 2-8
Wario does **** Ganon, but he's arguably the best MU in A tier that Ganon has. Ganon's FH nair is hard on Wario, and Wario's probably the character with the third best gimmicks you can use after a Gerudo, with first and second being Olimar and Diddy, respectively.Clai, you mean Ganon does do well vs Wario or are you talking about Falcon vs Wario? Because I can't think how Ganon doesn't get ***** by Wario.
Yes, lol. But thankfully the CG is exceptionally hard to pull off, since it needs to be nearly frame perfect. But the Wario can actually tech-chase the dthrow, and since you're bounced back up to standing position, it makes chasing a lot easier for Wario, since your only options are spotdodge and rolling.Doesn't Wario have that ******** dthrow chaingrab on Ganon that decimates him if he gets the grab? And doesn't wario get grabs retardedly easy?