~~The Triforce of Courage~~ An Advanced Guide to Link v1.2

[MattV1]

So what's the current word on the match-ups?

 

[Onomanic]

So what's the current word on the match-ups?

They're all against us! :D

 

[sasook]

Link has an advantage on Falcon >_>

in gameplay anyway....

in all other ways....Falcon pwns Link, as well as the rest of the cast

 

[Gahlo]

The internet and Captain Falcon :: ESPN and Brett Farve.

 

[MattV1]

They're all against us! :D

I meant for this topic. I notice the awesmoe in-depth Meta guide, how about the rest of the cast?

 

[sasook]

I meant for this topic. I notice the awesmoe in-depth Meta guide, how about the rest of the cast?

Those have yet to be written. Matchups like those take time lol

 

[MattV1]

Those have yet to be written. Matchups like those take time lol

Oh I know I know, I was just saying, looking at the date, I'd have guessed more would hopefully be up after almost three months. Can't wait for 'em.

 

[sasook]

Oh I see. Well actually, if you take a look at the "status update" section, it says the MK matchup was added on 11/16. That was about 2 weeks ago. So yeah...it'll be a while before Snake is up.

 

[NintenJoe]

I have a life too, y'know. I can't always be researching move priority, I've get things to do. Sorry if it's not up quickly, but they're coming slowly but surely. Be patient

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Oh I see. Well actually, if you take a look at the "status update" section, it says the MK matchup was added on 11/16. That was about 2 weeks ago. So yeah...it'll be a while before Snake is up.

Joe also has to wait for my lazy rum to take some snapshots for him. Don't worry Joe, I got the pics now, all I have to is post em up and send them to you shortly :D

 

[MattV1]

I didn't think to look at the updates, I only looked at the day it was posted. I'm sorry, if I came off as sounding like a **** I didn't mean to.

 

[EDogg88]

Nice work bro,this guide is epic sexy.

 

[Looticforgothispassword]

wups, dair dont bounces of lazors, lazors has strange hitboxes.

 

[Zezima0123]

wups, dair dont bounces of lazors, lazors has strange hitboxes.

I've bounced off of Falco's lazer.

 

[Looticforgothispassword]

I've bounced off of Falco's lazer.

sure? never happend to me, actually I was thinking if there was other projectiles that dair dont bounce off and made some research. vid would be nice.

the result:

Mario:
fireball
fludd(you will hit three or four water jets making you stand still in the air for a while before the bounce)

Luigi:
fireball

Peach:
turnip

Bowser:
firebreather(you will hit three or four flames making you stand still in the air for a while before the bounce)

Diddy kong:
bananas
penut popper(dair outprioritize it but no bounce)

Yoshi:
Egg throw

Wario:
Biker parts

Link:
Bow(fully charged too)
Gale Boomerang
Bomb(though it explodes and sends you upwards)

Zelda:
Dins Fire

Sheik:
Needles

Toon Link:
Bow (fully charged too)
Boomerang
Bombs(though it explodes and sends you upwards)

Samus:
Charge Shot (fully charged too)
Missile(both homing and not homing)

Zamus:
Armor parts
Stunner

Pit:
Palutenas Arrow

IC:
Ice shot
Blizzard

ROB:
LaZOR
Gyro

Kirby:
final cutter

King Dedede:
waddle Dee
waddle Doo
Gordo

Olimar:
All coulors of pikmin latched or not

Fox:
lazor

Falco:
Lazor

Wolf:
Lazor

Pikachu:
thundershock
Thunder

Squirtle:
Water Gun(you will hit three or four water jets making you stand still in the air for a while before the bounce)

Charizard:
Flamethrower(you will hit three or four flames making you stand still in the air for a while before the bounce)

Ivysaur:
razor leaf

Lucario:
Aurasphere(fully charged too, including full Aura)

Ness:
PK Flash
PK fire(you can bounce of the fire pillar but not the lightning shaped projectile)
PK thunder

Lucas:
PK Freeze
PK fire
PK thunder


Mr.Game and Watch:
Frying Pan
Bucket

Snake:
Grenade(yes you actually bounce of the nades)
Nikita
Box

 

[sasook]

Someone save that post. Awesome job Lootic.

 

[NintenJoe]

lootic's post is going in the guide but I have to make some tiny changes to the format. I'll save it onto a word document. Thanks Lootic.

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Hey Nintenjoe, I noticed you don't take powered up moves into account when it comes to showing damage %.

You know, like Spin Attack does 20 and D-air does 23 when fully powered up. It's not a big difference, but I'm just wondering....at least the knockback increases slightly.

 

[MyCurse4Life]

Wow, some how I wasted some part of my life here....

 

[Birry_mm]

New Advanced link tech

Nice Guide. While screwing around my friend Biggs discovered a new advanced link technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3NaTKZIk7k
Essentially its DAC (Dash attack cancel) followed by a bomb throw up or forward, it eliminates any lag in compariosn to links regular dash then bomb throw, as well as adding a small glide similar to boost smashing(DACUS)

 

[sasook]

Nice Guide. While screwing around my friend Biggs discovered a new advanced link technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3NaTKZIk7k
Essentially its DAC (Dash attack cancel) followed by a bomb throw up or forward, it eliminates any lag in compariosn to links regular dash then bomb throw, as well as adding a small glide similar to boost smashing(DACUS)

That's not new at all. It's old.......really old. It's official name is the DACIT (Dash Attack Cancel Item Toss) as well as boost tossing. It's better known here on the Link boards as bombsliding.

See? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjdQY5SOqEE from 12/24/08

To go back a little more in time....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMfxL9oJPaQ 9/11/08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nq9_CQNTYs 9/12/08

Even all the way back to....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq7K0A1SlLU 5/13/08

Yeah, it's not new. But still, I have to praise you. You didn't make a new topic about this. For that, I thank you to no end.

 

[ZlinkLGZ]

Despite my low post number i have trolled these boards since i found the website, and i have to say this is one of if not the most thorough and well done guide of any kind that i have seen. Simple amazing. And im looking forward to using this to improve my Link game. And about the tiers, i do not care the position that the character is, if you win with them, it doesn't matter where they are on the list.

 

[Anonano]

Despite my low post number i have trolled these boards

I think you mean lurk, not troll. But we understand anyway. XD

 

[Bandit_Kieth]

i'd troll if i actually knew what half of the stuff in these boards meant.

 

[Link&Ridley]

What probably is the Dtilt spike hitbox.

 

[KillaFrmNY]

Sigh... Everytime i attempt to do DAC, i either end up grabbing 90% of the time and actually pulling DAC off the other 10%. What in the world is it that i'm not doing?

 

[FEaR.7]

Tap jump on or off? timing varies a lil. Also for the missed DACs, grabbing is very punishable. If you are willing to change a few buttons on your controller setup, you could make your missed DACs less punishable.

If you DAC with Z, you can asign attack to that button and put grab on X/Y (whichever you dont use for jumping). There you go, button input is the same but if you miss it you'll do a dash attack instead of a grab.

 

[KillaFrmNY]

Tap jump is off, and i almost never try to DAC when i'm in a actual match because i know won't pull it off. I never made it a priority to learn, but now i realize. although situational it proves useful for setups, mindagames combos, etc...

 

[sasook]

Hate to interrupt, but wrong thread guys xD. Use the Q&A pl0x

 

[chris the brawler]

this is the best guide ever made...?

 

[chris the brawler]

i couldn't find how to perform Links spike anywhere in the guide (even tough i havent read the whole thing yet) could anyone explain how its performed?

 

[sasook]

No need to double post, there's an edit button for a reason.

Search function is also your friend.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188679

That's all we've got on Link's spike. None of us here know how to hit with it perfectly every single time.

 

[Lawz.]

i couldn't find how to perform Links spike anywhere in the guide (even tough i havent read the whole thing yet) could anyone explain how its performed?

it's HARD to pull off at will or at all for that matter. i just saw someone post the hitbox which shows where u should hit the person when they're coming to the stage but i wouldn't recommend using it anyway.

 

[avatarang30]

Thank You

thank you so much for making this thread. u are an inspiration

 

[shboke]

WOW this is helping me a lot, im going to try to play an aggressive link for a bit and see how it works out if not i guess i can try different styles, thanks for your help man!

 

[galekill]

awesome guide too, but I think I will start with the beginners guide by sasook

 

[Liex Link]

this is the best guide ever made...?

It is. No offense Sasook, your guide was sexy too.

 

[sasook]

It is. No offense Sasook, your guide was sexy too.

Are you kidding? This guide ***** mine lol

 

[galekill]

Are you kidding? This guide ***** mine lol

no, sasook this guide is overkill, no n00b will ever read it and no pro will ever need it(since they altready know it all) your guide is better, though I think you should better up the layout a little. I will come with some suggestions later maybe : D.

 

[chris the brawler]

it's HARD to pull off at will or at all for that matter. i just saw someone post the hitbox which shows where u should hit the person when they're coming to the stage but i wouldn't recommend using it anyway.

no, i prefer to jump after the opponent and nair them twice then zair-edgeguard the him/her
anyway, i was think about doing a jab cancel into dtilt and spike the opponent at the edge of the stage.