The Top 5 Brawl [ US | CAN | MEX]

[Zinoto]

I definitely think Kismet should be on here. His wins are stacking up quite nicely and he has consistent solid placings. Also, Stevo should be on the list and Chudat moved to #1.

Anyways, I thought I'd throw myself in here for another evaluation for what it's worth:

My Recent Wins:

Mikey Lenetia x3
Roller x4
Lain x2
Coco (6th on PR)
Sago
DLA
Sneakytako x2
Rayquaza07 (3rd on PR)
Judge
Anther
Lordhelmet x2
Sauc3

EDIT: I realize my loses as of late came from Ally lol.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Wat @ Anther. He still plays?

 

[clowsui]

Yeah from time to time

 

[z00ted]

UPDATE!
(MOCK UP TOP 5)

Please take into consideration that this is NOT the finalized draft of the chart that will be placed in the OP of this thread. Simply a mock up or rough draft of what I believe is the most accurate depiction of our current competitive scene.

If you have ANYTHING to say, please voice your opinion!



PLAYERS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP
(STATE YOUR WINS/LOSSES/RESULTS):
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Player 1, BigLou, Vato, Fliphop, Zinoto



Pelca, SK92, Bloodcross, Kismet



Kadaj, KillLock, BoA, Neo



Bassem, Hunger, Sky, Malcolm



Denti, Anuar, Logic, Fino



Bio, Shlike, Dakpo, Y.b.M.



Mikey Lenetia, SlayerZ, Nicole, Kyon, Silly Kyle



Falln, Chudat



Stingers, t0mmy, Chibo



Kiraflax, Koolaid



Steep, Vato_break, Stevo



Ven, Riot, Fuujin, ScaryLB59, Vinnie[/COLLAPSE]

CHANGES MADE:

[COLLAPSE="Click Me!"]

Nairo (+1)
Ally (-1)



Vato_Break (+2)
Player-1 (-1)

Taken Off: Lie
New Addition: BigLou (4th)



(No Update)



(No Update)



Sky' (+1)

Taken Off: Hunger
New Addition: Bpow (5th)




Dojo (+1)

Taken Off: Roller
New Addition: Cheese (5th)




Logic (-1)
Fino (+1)

Taken Off: Logic
New Addition: Fino (5th)




(No Update)



(No Update)



Y.b.M. (+1)
Bio (+1)
Dakpo (-2)

Taken Off: Dakpo
New Addition: Bio (5th)



(No Update)



(No Update)



Zeton (+1)
Tearbear (-1)

Taken Off: Tearbear
New Addition: Zeton (5th)



Silly Kyle (+1)
Kyon (+1)
SlayerZ (+1)
Nicole (-1)
Mikey Lenetia (-2)

Taken Off: Mikey Lenetia
New Addition: SlayerZ (5th)



(No Update)



Chudat (+1)
Y.b.M. (-1)



(No Update)



Koolaid (+1)
KiraFlax (-1)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



Steep (+4)
Vato_Break (-1)
Boss (-1)
2fast (-1)

Taken Off: Thatguy
New Addition: Steep (2nd)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



(No Update)



Ven (+3)
Vinnie (+3)
Fuujin (-3)
Riot (-1)
ScaryLB59 (-1)

New Addition: Vinnie (2nd)
Taken Off: Linkz



(No Update)[/COLLAPSE]

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Mew2King​

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Nairo​

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Ally​

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ANTi​

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Tyrant
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ADHD / Gnes​

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Gnes / ADHD​

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Vato_break​

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BigLou​

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Player-1
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Ultimate Razer​

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Ally​

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Fatal​

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Havok​

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MVD
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DEHF​

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Shugo​

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Pelca​

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SK92​

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Bloodcross
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MikeHaze​

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Zex​

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Neo​

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Kadaj​

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KillLock
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TheReflexWonder​

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Bassem​

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Malcom McNutty​

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Sky'​

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Bpow
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Vinnie​

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ESAM​

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Smoom​

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Dojo​

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Cheese
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Rich Brown​

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Dabuz​

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Anuar​

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Denti​

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Fino
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ESAM​

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Z​

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K Prime​

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Captain L​

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Lamb

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Trela​

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Pitbull​

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Junebugx​

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John12346​

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jamesG
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Coney​

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4GOD​

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Atomsk​

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Zekey​

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Addy
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Nick Riddle​

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Salem​

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DRN​

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Y.b.M.​

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Bio
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Vinnie​

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Penta​

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Alphicans​

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UTDZac​

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MJG​

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Jash​

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PJ​

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Kingtoon​

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Jerm

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TKD​

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Trevonte​

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NAKAT​

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MegaFox​

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Zeton
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Kain​

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Seagull Man​

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Choice​

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MCPE
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Illmatic​

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Silly Kyle​

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Nicole​

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Kyon​

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SlayerZ

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Will​

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Nairo​

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Neon​

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mar1​

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ESAM
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Falln​

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Chudat​

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RRR​

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Kewkky
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HolyNightmare​

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KiraFlax​

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Chibo​

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t0mmy​

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Stingers
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Koolaid​

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KiraFlax​

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Luckay4Lyphe​

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Patriotic Zero (PTZR)​

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Fyre
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Espy​

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X​

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MeekSpeedy​

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D1aos​

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Speed

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San​

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Ryo_Guikido​

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Nysyarc​

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theboredone​

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Berserker Swordsman
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Boss​

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YoshQ​

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Mr. ConCon​

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Zhao​

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Jbandrew
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Judo​

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Ed​

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Billy​

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Tutu​

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Tree
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FOW​

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Shaky​

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Vicegrip​

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R e d X​

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twinx
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Delta-Cod​

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Poltergust​

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HadesBlade​

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FireFly​

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Sinister Slush
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T-Block​

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Mata​

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Aposl

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PinkFresh​

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Ninjalink​

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FAE​

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Tearbear
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Limit​

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Uncle​

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Arlex
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Xyro​

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Noid​

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Sago​

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Sauc3
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Stroumbert​

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Ally​

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Reflex​

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Culex​

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Lordhelmet

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Legan​

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Scizor​

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Ninja the Link Sage​

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Tutu
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Dapuffster​

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Playa Mink​

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Kaptain​

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San​

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Zigsta
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Ven​

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Riot​

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Vinnie​

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[Zano]

KillLock should def be 2nd or 3rd, Raziek should be on the list as well. Neo quit, and I've never heard of zex doing anything notable with marth out of norcal, and I don't think he goes only marth, so idk what a majority of his wins come from cause they never post anything.

 

[allshort17]

There are many things you could change, but one could be Malcom over Bassem maybe?

 

[Jimmyfosho]

I'm sorry but how the hell did Steep get 2nd best Mario? Are you sure you aren't confusing this guy for this guy ?

 

[Vinylic.]

Oh gohd yush, the new list says juicy all over it.

And yay for kyon being 4th best!

 

[Sync.]

I should be a top 5 Olimar!

 

[infiniteV115]

Dakpo taken off? Isn't he fairly active and doing well in his region and whatnot?

 

[Player-1]

diddy list is an even bigger joke with vato being #3. Reflex is a bigger win than anyone on his list, 4god is a bigger win than anyone on his list, Kismet is potentially a bigger win on his list (only competition is sk92) and 2 wins on kismet is definitely better than one win on sk92, DRN is a better win than anyone on his list except for maybe sk92, Micaelis is a bigger win than most people on his list (and then I have 5 wins on him), IDK how MMs are dealt with, but a win on Kain is better than anyone on his list. My lesser wins are better than his, so ya idk how you can even put vato above biglou when his wins aren't even as good as mine

 

[BioDG]

My fav zss is missing ;____;

He's fairly active, yeah. It's only a mockup, though, V.

 

[Sync.]

I'm going to write up a resume. I'm definitely a top 5 Olimar. It will take a while on a phone!

 

[Cassio]

But Georgia sucks.

For reals though, Vatos Socal wins + top level wins in Vegas and AZ look a lot more legit.

Also I was going to bring up KillLock as well. In fact I think hes deserved it for awhile, but the thread wasnt being updated. I agree with either 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Zano]

****, and the salt begins, calm down p1, I know p3 got banned but that's no reason to lose your cool

 

[z00ted]

Bio beat Razer, Smoom, Pj, and is much more active @ V.

Player-1, we'll talk about it when Vato and BigLou pop up.

KillLock will be addressed when someone can give me his wins/losses/results.
Raziek will too.

I can't work with just, 'blah blah needs to be higher'.

Sync, state why you deserve to be above Fino.
I JUST TOLD YOU THIS ON THE PHONE, BROOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Zano]

I posted changes that should go to the marth list, it looks silly atm. KillLock is more active than all the marths above him (minus mikehaze obviously) and wins like almost every if not every tournament he plays in.

 

[z00ted]

I recently updated a lot of stuff, everyone please go check it out.
I desperately need people to talk in this thread if we're going to update it properly.

 

[Player-1]

biglou won't pop up he doens't post on the forums.

and no cassio. A couple of low ranked socal wins, previously ranked socal players (which don't mean that much at all), and some top AZ wins aren't better than top GA/AL wins with GA/AL is definitely better lower socal and AZ.

@zano, i didn't 'lose my cool' the list is just a a big joke.

 

[Sync.]

Lol calm down son! I'll write up one soon

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Does Fatal really deserve 3rd slot? I haven't heard him do much in his region, which is saying something. I heard Bizkit is doing better than him IN NE anyway (not sure if correct) so shouldn't Bizkit be more in contention with Fatal off the list completely?

 

[Tesh]

Speed needs to be taken off of the Sonic list. I'm not sure if he even plays or has recent results.

Wedge should be on for 5th.

 

[z00ted]

Uhh, I'm not too sure about that, ESAM.
They can talk it over if they want.

Player-1, this list isn't a joke. Chill out.

The Diddy list is probably going to be the most controversial and I don't feel like having you ***** like a little school girl all day over a game. Just handle stuff appropriately when Vato pops up and we're golden.

Tesh, I'll look into it.

Jimmy, I'll look into that - I think I messed up.

 

[Player-1]

yes the diddy list is a joke, it's a joke that it's even controversial. It's very, VERY clear my wins are better, and it's completely obvious that biglou's wins are much better.

 

[Sync.]

Wedge upset someone at Apex in pools but I forget who...

 

[Cassio]

Player-1 you arent the least bit aware of the skill level of players here, yet you want everyone to assume GA's odd ball players that dont travel are good based on your opinion. I think most people see the hypocrisy.

Yeah Id put Havok above Fatal at this point.

I agree with all the changes, although I think putting Koolaid above Kira is maybe premature. Im not sure what Koolaids wins are though so maybe.

Im also not sure about the super big drop for Fujin, does he have nothing recent?

 

[Tesh]

He 2-0 his entire first round pool, including logic (olimar).

2nd Round pools I believe he was in there with Nietono, not sure who beat him for 2nd seed.

 

[Vinylic.]

yes the diddy list is a joke, it's a joke that it's even controversial. It's very, VERY clear my wins are better, and it's completely obvious that biglou's wins are much better.

Can you show us your wins?

 

[falln]

wins:
sync
pwii
jerm
pitbull
mata
vato_break
iceDX (rank 3 TJ lucario)
awex
hall (previously ranked in socal)
ajax (previously ranked in socal)

i also have some other really good wins in mid-late 2011 that i can list if requested

 

[Zinoto]

Mikey Lenetia still plays (quite frequently) and we trade sets a lot. As for Big Lou, what are his wins? I'd support Vato being 3rd, but you and his wins are fairly close (yet again). SK92 is a really legit win as well is Reflex, but I don't know about Micaelis. He's good, but who has he beaten? Same goes for elev8, Ryker, Cam, Scatt (unless this is Scatz, which I deem impossible because Scatz is the best player alive ), etc. Billy has been inactive as well.

For Vato, who has Hall, Raz, Paper, etc. beaten. However, a lot more of your wins are on more "well-known" players, but maybe P1's have legit wins I don't know about.

As for me, I'm starting to remember why I didn't want to argue for a spot on this list and I kinda went unnoticed anyway, so I'll call it quits for now.

I think these changes should be made:

list:

1. ADHD
2. Gnes
3/4. Vato_Break
3/4. Player-1
5. Big Lou (warranted his wins are legit)

list:

Mikey should go back on.

list:

Tutu should be moved above Billy.

list:

Stevo should be #1.

list:

Kismet should be on (minimum of 4th)

list:

Poltergust should be moved (inactivity)

list:

Malcolm moved above Baseem

 

[vato_break]

I don't know why you think your regions wins are better than mine, like i never see this michealis person place high at nationals. A.C. is an AMAZING win(he beats TKD at some tournaments iirc, also beat tearbear the same tournament i beat him). you have waaaaay more random people on your list than mine. ex. : Spade, Ryker, Legan, Cam. You're shooting down my wins as if they suck or something but they are pretty good lol. Silly kyling beating Z recently. Kiraflax beating MikeHAZE. Hall is another amazing player who is overlooked, who almost always places top 3 in san diego tournaments. Awex another good one with recent wins on pitbull and zekey(both ranked)



why are you so mad? seems like you have your head so far up your *** that you've become blind by your arrogance


Edit: Stevo is an amazing mario and should be #1 due to no other marios being active or getting wins.

 

[DeLux]

What wins from Roller/Dojo/Cheese/Smoom do I have to top, Illmatic?

 

[Cassio]

Oh yeah, who is steep? Lol. Is that StevO? If flame is on he should be 2nd if not 1st. I agree with the ealier proposals about Falco as well. SK92 3rd, Kismet 4th, Pelca 5th.

Also Slayerz IS great but I dont think hes ever really entered singles in a long long time. He made it through pools for one tournament once and then had to leave.

 

[z00ted]

Guys, give me some time and I'll address all of this stuff.

 

[LordXav1er]

We might want to rethink the Link list: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14384664&postcount=163

Last activity I seen from Legan (11 months)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyu4nJIca6I

Can we get some more active Link mains on here now?

 

[Zinoto]

Honestly, I'd say Vato's wins are more legit. I can recognize a lot more wins on his list than P1's. Also, no one really knows Big Lou's wins (we only have your word that his are better than Vato's P1). Care to enlighten us?

EDIT: Legan entered Don't Blink, like a month ago and Vengeance before that. You gotta check more than just youtube

 

[LordXav1er]

Has he went Link in Bracket tho? I know he is still around. Just hardly hear or see his Link anymore.

Scizor, Ninja-the-link-sage and I have been pretty active. KirinBlaze is still around as well.

 

[Zinoto]

Has he went Link in Bracket tho? I know he is still around. Just hardly hear or see his Link anymore.

He went against me and against P1 (took him to game 3 as well iirc). He has been using his and in a good number of matchups though. He'll be at Phoenix Saga 4 as well.

 

[Player-1]

Cassio youre arent the least bit aware of the skill level of players here, yet you want everyone to assume Socal/AZ's odd ball players that dont travel are good based on your opinion. I think most people see the hypocrisy.

@Vato, Oh i'm sorry, I didn't realize we had to list people who only place good at nationals as wins well there goes like your whole entire list except one player. Micaelis was at Apex, made it to 2nd round pools and beat mikeray there, although mikeray beat him the tiebreaker at his pools.

All of you guys (vato, cassio, zinoto) are doing the same thing you're accusing me of. Underrating GA/AL players and calling them 'randoms' "shooting down my wins as if they suck or something". Spade has beaten Billy (here's him taking reflex to game 5 at a recent tournament if you want some videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbCMZtL2g3k&list=PL08785F7535D68688&index=57&feature=plpp_video), Billy has beaten kismet at a recent tournament and my win on him was when he was more active right after Apex), Scatt has a win on 4God, Ryker went with us to Vengeance and got some decent wins in pools and bracket, got 33rd iirc, I'm not really sure of Legan's performance as of recent but he's DEFINITELY not a random. Definitely seems you have your head up your *** with arrogance a lot more than me. I'm also not sure if you're capable of reading since I already stated I wasn't mad, just that the list is a joke.

@zinoto, I already posted biglou's wins, and no lol legan didn't take me to game 5.

 

[RaptorTEC]

So I think I should be somewhere in the Yoshi list. Back when it was discussed like 100 pages back, majority of people agreed.
Some of these wins are starting to get old though since 2 months passed. Atomsk, Will, YoshQ, and Cheese. Will and YoshQ were mm's and there's also some local names but idk how much they're worth. On top of that I placed 5th of 59, 9th of 34, 4th of 16, 9th of 30 this season in ny/nj locals (I do have 2 placings that aren't great though.) As far as I know it should look something like this.

1)Delta-Cod
2)Poltergust (Hasnt been 6 months yet I don't think he should be taken off)
3)Hades/Raptor I haven't heard much from Hades recently but he does have impressive wins in his past
3)Hades/Raptor
5)Firefly Solid Yoshi that places well in his region.