The Top 5 Brawl [ US | CAN | MEX]

[Zinoto]

I think I should be considered for top 5 as well.

 

[Silly Kyle]

Vato has an amazing Diddy!

 

[allshort17]

If you're going to figure out Diddy then can Zinoto and Fliphop be considered too?

 

[NickRiddle]

How recent?

Recent monthlies:

March's tournament:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=14244030#post14244030
Beat Shaky x2 (Top 5 Ness)
Beat MVD in LF (Top 5 Snake?)
Lost to MVD in Winner's Semis (Top 5 Snake?)
Lost to ESAM in GF (Potentially best Pikachu)
Don't remember if I took a set in GF. Probably not.
April's tournament:
I cannot find the bracket for this month... so I honestly don't know.

May's tournament:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=322969
Ryo x2 (Top 5 Ike,
ESAM one set of GF.
Lost to ESAMx2

I know I didn't beat anybody really noteworthy in April. Lost to MVD's Snake and Seibrik's Wario.

Before that?

NLL Presents: Lovesick For Brawl (Feb. 25)
Only have a link to the post with a bracket.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14157400&postcount=545

Beat Kyon (Top 5 Peach)
Beat GDX (Almost Top 5 Diddy)
Beat Shaky (Top 5 Ness)
Beat HRNut "ForUltimateRazer"x2

I beat ESAMx2 and MVD once at a tournament around Apex. I have no idea what it's called, and I cannot find the info... but FL could vouch for me. (Dat assumed bias though... )

That's really it. I didn't do so hot at Apex. Lost my only bracket matches... Oh, I beat KPrime (Top 5 Pika) in pools... Nobody else is top 5, and I'm not going through state PRs to look into that.

If you think Salem's wins are better, that's cool. I'll destroy the next 3 tournaments I attend, and be back at the top.

 

[infiniteV115]

Honestly Ill if you're going to update ZSS, wait til like after the summer. Salem's going to IMPULSE (and I think SKTAR as well?), DRN is going to SKTAR and NR is going to WHOBO 4.

And I'm going to IMPULSE and maybe SKTAR as well but w/e I'm free XD

The tourney where Nick beat ESAM and MVD was called Gorilla Games/NickRiddle's Random Tournament, and it was on Dec 17th apparently. Perhaps too long ago?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs2-ajL2pXY

 

[infiniteV115]

..
Double clicked the 'submit' button by accident, I guess? >.<

 

[vato_break]

i should be 3rd for diddy imo

My wins:

Mr. Concon (top 5 luigi)
Vicegrip (top 5 ness)
Falln (Ranked 8th in Socal)
Paper(paper recently traveled to NorCal and took top 3, so he should be considered a good win. results from that tournament
Jebus x2 (Previously Ranked)
Raz (Previously Ranked)
Zekey x2 (Power Ranked 10th in SoCal)
Ozz (Previously ranked high on texes true skill rankings)
Teba (Previous ranked in socal early in brawl, beat raz in his come back tournament)
Hall x 2 (Ranked 6th in San Diego)
Awex (Ranked 9th in San Diego)
A.C. (Ranked 2nd in TJ)
Yoshikins(Ranked 8th in AZ)
SillyKyle(Ranked 2nd in AZ)
Kiraflax(Ranked 3rd in AZ)
Sk92(Ranked 2nd in Vegas)

 

[BioDG]

Here's my resume, Illmatic. Rather than assume who is noteworthy, I went ahead and included every detail.

Spoiler

Results since March 16th

Hobo 35 (MK Banned)
7th out of 21
Wins: Jew, Yosh, Pwii
Losses: Jerm, Illmatic
*MM win: Smoom (I dunno if MMs matter or if this MM was this tourney but it was around March I think)

Battle Network 7
7th out of 21
Wins: Shadow1pj, Kilik
Losses: Razer, Sync

Battle Network 8
5th out of 17
Wins: Fliphop, Ojih Sama, UltimateRazer
Losses: Trela, Sync

Hobo 38
1st out of 16 (AM Bracket)
Wins: DownTaHeck, Fernando, BSP, Day, Sync
Losses: N/A (In pools, ALSM tiebreaker set dropped me into AM bracket)

 

[z00ted]

*Results/Wins/Losses*

Thanks, Nick Riddle for posting your wins/losses and results.

It will be taken into consideration, I personally think that you should still secure #1 because of the ESAM x2 and MVD, as well as all those other notable wins (Kyon, Shaky, HRNut, Ryo, etc)

Salem, if you want to move above NR - you need to beat more notable players. Atomsk, Kingtoon, Bloodcross, and Squall are all very good wins - but it's not enough to stack up to NickRiddle's current resume and previous history.

Even though you already have a really good resume going for you, you don't have enough tournaments under your belt to establish yourself as the best player of said character.

If you (or anyone else) wants to voice their opinion on this, please say so. I would also like to know your wins/losses at Apex and the one where you beat Will, please!

 

[NickRiddle]

At Apex I know he beat NEO and me. Not sure about the rest of his wins. (Salem)
Oh, and I now he beat Will at his "debut" tournament.

 

[DeLux]

What wins must I make this summer to be Top 5 ICs, new thread owner?

 

[Tesh]

Here's my resume, Illmatic. Rather than assume who is noteworthy, I went ahead and included every detail.

Spoiler

Results since March 16th

Hobo 35 (MK Banned)
7th out of 21
Wins: Jew, Yosh, Pwii
Losses: Jerm, Illmatic

Battle Network 7
7th out of 21
Wins: Shadow1pj, Kilik
Losses: Razer, Sync

Battle Network 8
5th out of 17
Wins: Fliphop, Ojih Sama, UltimateRazer
Losses: Trela, Sync

Hobo 38
1st out of 16 (AM Bracket)
Wins: DownTaHeck, Fernando, BSP, Day, Sync
Losses: N/A (In pools, ALSM tiebreaker set dropped me into AM bracket)

Oh snap, Bio conveniently forgot that Razer 2-0 at HOBO 38.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Hopefully Illmatic runs this thread well. Yall are idiots if you think I'd be bias and put Md/Va on this.

Logic should be taken off and replaced with Fino and Denti should move below Fino as well.

Lie doesn't even deserve top 5 anymore, but he could easily get it back.

Chu has been very active. June went to a tourney recently.

list is missing Zeton, but has Tearbear...?

Nairo should be 1st ranked .

Havok>MVD.

KillLock>Kadaj.

Darkflame should be considered for . Especially if Roller is considered top 5.

 

[Player-3]

zeton didn't want to be on the list



can i be a top 5 luigi yet

 

[z00ted]

Honestly Ill if you're going to update ZSS, wait til like after the summer. Salem's going to IMPULSE (and I think SKTAR as well?), DRN is going to SKTAR and NR is going to WHOBO 4.

And I'm going to IMPULSE and maybe SKTAR as well but w/e I'm free XD

The tourney where Nick beat ESAM and MVD was called Gorilla Games/NickRiddle's Random Tournament, and it was on Dec 17th apparently. Perhaps too long ago?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs2-ajL2pXY

I don't want to fall into the trap of 'waiting' to update a list.

Brawl's a competitive game, if someone goes out and proves something worthwhile - we can at least have a discussion as to why or why not they should be considered in moving up or down.

Nationals/Regionals definitely establish a stronger case for players when presenting their success, but I hate the 'waiting' part. Sort of demotes competition or tournament attendance. "Oh, I don't have to go to (said tournament) because even if I do - it won't matter in the long run!" is something I really don't want players to keep in their head.

Multiple wins in your area will stack, even if they aren't top level ones.

Thanks for the tournament where Nick beat ESAM and MVD, and no.. it's definitely not too long ago.

i should be 3rd for diddy imo

My wins:

Mr. Concon (top 5 luigi)
Vicegrip (top 5 ness)
Falln (Ranked 8th in Socal)
Paper(paper recently traveled to NorCal and took top 3, so he should be considered a good win. results from that tournament
Jebus x2 (Previously Ranked)
Raz (Previously Ranked)
Zekey x2 (Power Ranked 10th in SoCal)
Ozz (Previously ranked high on texes true skill rankings)
Teba (Previous ranked in socal early in brawl, beat raz in his come back tournament)
Hall x 2 (Ranked 6th in San Diego)
Awex (Ranked 9th in San Diego)
A.C. (Ranked 2nd in TJ)
Yoshikins(Ranked 8th in AZ)
SillyKyle(Ranked 2nd in AZ)
Kiraflax(Ranked 3rd in AZ)
Sk92(Ranked 2nd in Vegas)

PERFECT

Thank you

Here's my resume, Illmatic. Rather than assume who is noteworthy, I went ahead and included every detail.

Spoiler

Results since March 16th

Hobo 35 (MK Banned)
7th out of 21
Wins: Jew, Yosh, Pwii
Losses: Jerm, Illmatic

Battle Network 7
7th out of 21
Wins: Shadow1pj, Kilik
Losses: Razer, Sync

Battle Network 8
5th out of 17
Wins: Fliphop, Ojih Sama, UltimateRazer
Losses: Trela, Sync

Hobo 38
1st out of 16 (AM Bracket)
Wins: DownTaHeck, Fernando, BSP, Day, Sync
Losses: N/A (In pools, ALSM tiebreaker set dropped me into AM bracket)

PERFECT

Thank you

At Apex I know he beat NEO and me. Not sure about the rest of his wins. (Salem)
Oh, and I now he beat Will at his "debut" tournament.

Alright, I'll wait for him to speak up.

What wins must I make this summer to be Top 5 ICs, new thread owner?

Roller/Dojo are your competition.

Dojo is likely going to be moved ahead of Roller due to his recent tournament success/wins - I'm not too knowledgeable of Roller's wins, can you tell me what they are?

 

[Seagull Joe]

Roller's wins I have no clue. Darkflame recently beat Logic. I think that's better then any win Roller has.

 

[Player-1]

If you're going to figure out Diddy then can Zinoto and Fliphop be considered too?

nope, they're wins don't compare to mine, vatos or biglous

my wins since Apex:

EE (idk how notable he was back then), Puffster, Saint, Kismet (x2), elev8 (x2), Micaelis (x5), 4god, Reflex, Billy, Scatt, DRN, Spade (x2), Ryker (x2), Legan, Cam (x2), and Kain in a $5 MM.

Also have at least one win on the rest of the AL PRs: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=274662

have at least one win on everyone on GA PRs (plus the HM) also except mc pe, p3, and biglou: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=285577


a lot of the results can be found here: http://alabamasmashleague.com/Tournament Results.html


also, I'd double check vato's wins. He uses MK and I guess Mario too, I know jebus was complaining earlier that vato listed him as a win when he used MK against him.

edit: oh and also kel, idk how good of a win he is either, but apparently he's #1 in ohio or something?

 

[z00ted]

Hopefully Illmatic runs this thread well. Yall are idiots if you think I'd be bias and put Md/Va on this.

Logic should be taken off and replaced with Fino and Denti should move below Fino as well.

Lie doesn't even deserve top 5 anymore, but he could easily get it back.

Chu has been very active. June went to a tourney recently.

list is missing Zeton, but has Tearbear...?

Nairo should be 1st ranked .

Havok>MVD.

KillLock>Kadaj.

Darkflame should be considered for . Especially if Roller is considered top 5.

I'm taking all of this into consideration and have already made a 'mock up' top 5 list.
Don't worry, I'll run this thread very well.

zeton didn't want to be on the list
can i be a top 5 luigi yet

I don't care if people don't want to be on this list, I'm putting them on here.
And no, shut the **** up.

 

[Player-3]

that's what krys said but he didnt put him on zeton had legitimate reasons apparently


how about a top 5 mario hes like luigi but red right

 

[BioDG]

Added the Smoom Money Match win which should still be within the timeframe of my match history. I don't know if MMs matter, though.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Also Cheese was taken off ?

 

[z00ted]

^good point.
Thanks, Bio.

 

[LordXav1er]

Nairo should be #1 for MK, he got 1st at COT6

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=323237

 

[vato_break]

vs kiraflax it was his pit that i beat with diddy. jebus was just salty and vs zekey i went mk in one of my wins. vs yoshikins i went metaknight and lost. I only really use metaknight in doubles

 

[Chuee]

Nairo should be #1 for MK, he got 1st at COT6

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=323237

I still wouldn't put him as #1 yet.
M2K hasn't lost to Nairo except when he forfeited, and most of M2K's placings under Nairo have been from him losing to Dabuz, which is a MU Nairo is far better at. I'd also consider Ally being above him, but Ally's been using Snake/Pit more recently.

 

[z00ted]

Kk, I'm about to post my mockup and state the changes in a second.

I'll try to give reasoning, I want everyone to state their opinions and I'm going to call a lot of players into here via namesearch and posting on their wall to discuss their wins/losses in order to change this thing as efficiently and accurately as possible.

Huge update coming soon!

 

[infiniteV115]

If I were to list my wins and placings, how far back should I go?

Cause as for notable placings (within my region) I can go all the way back to like Sept 2011 XD

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I would say Havok > MVD as of now as well.

I feel like Havok will normally be ranked above him because his losses normally aren't with Snake while MVD doesn't play another character, but Havok's wins are definitely superior as of now and MVD's losses are worse (Shaky) is the only bad one, really.

Also, what has San done recently? Does ANYBODY know? I'm curious.

 

[*Cam*]

First, Player-1 is 18-years-old, about to turn 19.

Second, we keep some of his tournament record here: http://alabamasmashleague.com/player1 bio.html, but it doesn't include anything from The Salty Spittoon series in GA. I hope that saves you some time regardless.

 

[Zinoto]

I would say Havok > MVD as of now as well.

I feel like Havok will normally be ranked above him because his losses normally aren't with Snake while MVD doesn't play another character, but Havok's wins are definitely superior as of now and MVD's losses are worse (Shaky) is the only bad one, really.

Also, what has San done recently? Does ANYBODY know? I'm curious.

I don't think San plays much at all anymore sadly. He kind of innovated , and I haven't seen any results from him in like a year.

 

[Krystedez]

Here you go Ill

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Mew2King​

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Ally​

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Anti​

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Nairo​

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Tyrant
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Rich Brown​

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Dabuz​

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Anuar​

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Denti​

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Logic
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ADHD​

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Gnes​

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Lie​

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Player-1​

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Vinnie​

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FreESAM​

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Smoom​

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Roller​

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Dojo
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Ultimate Razer​

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Ally​

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Fatal​

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MVD​

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Havok
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DEHF​

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Shugo​

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Pelca​

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SK92​

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Bloodcross
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MikeHaze​

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Zex​

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Neo​

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Kadaj​

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KillLock
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FreESAM​

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Kprime​

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Captain L​

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Lamb
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TheReflexWonder​

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Bassem​

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Malcom McNutty​

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Hunger​

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Sky`
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Nick Riddle​

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Salem​

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DRN​

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Dakpo​

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Y.b.M.
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Trela​

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Pitbull​

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Junebugx​

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John12346​

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jamesG
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Coney​

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4GOD​

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Atomsk​

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Zekey​

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Addy
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MJG​

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Jash​

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PJ​

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Kingtoon​

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Jerm
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Kain​

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Seagull Man​

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Choice​

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MCPE
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Vinnie​

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Penta​

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Alphicans​

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UTDZac​

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Patches
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TKD​

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Trevonte​

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NAKAT​

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MegaFox​

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Tearbear
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Illmatic​

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Nicole​

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SillyKyle​

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Mikey Lenetia​

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Kyon
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KiraFlax​

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Koolaid​

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Luckay4Lyphe​

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Patriotic Zero (PTZR)​

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Fyre
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HolyNightmare​

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KiraFlax​

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Chibo​

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t0mmy​

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Stingers
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Falln​

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Chudat​

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RRR​

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Kewkky
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Espy​

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MeekSpeedy​

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D1aos​

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Speed
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Will​

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Nairo​

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Neon​

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mar1​

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FreEsam
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San​

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Ryo_Guikido​

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Nysyarc*​

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theboredone​

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Judo​

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Ed​

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Billy​

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Tutu​

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Tree
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Delta-Cod​

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Poltergust​

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HadesBlade​

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FireFly​

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Sinister Slush
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Shaky​

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Vicegrip​

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R e d X​

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twinx
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TheReflexWonder​

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T-Block​

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Mata​

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CoonTail​

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Aposl
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Boss​

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YoshQ*​

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Mr. ConCon**​

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Zhao**​

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Jbandrew*
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Mekos​

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PinkFresh​

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Ninjalink​

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FAE​

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Tearbear
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Vato_Break​

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Boss*​

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ThatGuy
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Xyro​

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Noid​

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Sago​

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Sauc3
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KingKong​

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Zigsta​

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Limit​

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Uncle​

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Arlex
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Reflex​

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Culex​

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Lordhelmet
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Kaptain​

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San​

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Legan​

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Scizor​

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Ninja the Link Sage​

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Tutu
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Fuujin​

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ScaryLB59​

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[Player-1]

o and ya kismet should be on top 5 falco, has I believe 2+ wins on reflex, 2 wins on DRN, 2 or 3 wins on biglou, a win on me, a win on MJG, a win on Fino. He got to bracket at Apex also, I don't remember who he beat and I can't look because pools sheets are down from Apex (I think?).

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Lost to ESAM in GF (Potentially best Pikachu)

***** wtf.

Also, I am unsure of who SK92/Shugo have beat recently, so I can see Kismet going up a lot. He should at least be 4th behind them since Pelca doesn't really do anything anymore. (AFAIK)

 

[z00ted]

Thanks, Kryz!
Can you please collapse that really fast.. it's going to make things super complicated if you don't.

 

[Krystedez]

Sure I can collapse it. Look for edit.

 

[NickRiddle]

***** wtf.

Also, I am unsure of who SK92/Shugo have beat recently, so I can see Kismet going up a lot. He should at least be 4th behind them since Pelca doesn't really do anything anymore. (AFAIK)

Them jokes.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Also also, Anti should technically be taken off the list because of the 6 month thing. Same with Poltergust.

 

[_Kain_]

Should be a longer inactivity wait, especially if players below certain players are not even close to the one on top

For instance ChuDat, got knocked down due to inactivity, no one below close, comes back a bit after

 

[allshort17]

o and ya kismet should be on top 5 falco, has I believe 2+ wins on reflex, 2 wins on DRN, 2 or 3 wins on biglou, a win on me, a win on MJG, a win on Fino. He got to bracket at Apex also, I don't remember who he beat and I can't look because pools sheets are down from Apex (I think?).

I know he beat DeltaCod in second round pools.

 

[infiniteV115]

[COLLAPSE="V115's crap"]
Showdown in Downtown 3 - August 20, 2011 - 7th/26
Wins: Dan-Da-Man (10th on Southern Ontario PR atm)
Losses: Mr. Concon, Cruxis
Showdown in Downtown 4 - September 17th, 2011 - 5th/27
Wins: Iliad (9th on SOPR atm)
Losses: Ally, YRSF Tin Man (1st on SOPR)
No Bull**** II: Pepto Mismol - October 1st, 2011 - 9th/37
Dammit, bracket removed.
Losses: Ally, Suzaku (4th on SOPR)
Warlocks' Domain 1 - October 22nd, 2011 - 1st/16
Wins: Dan-Da-Man (10th on SOPR)
Losses: Ambrose (beat him in GFs)
Showdown in Downtown 5 - November 26th, 2011 - 7th/44
Wins: Iliad (9th on SOPR),
Losses: Ally, Stroumbert
Revival of Salt - February 4th, 2012 - 17th/56 (pretty sure it's 56, unless I miscounted the pools)
Wins: Poke (7th on SOPR), beat Logic's Oli here in a $2 MM (lol)
Losses: Doom, Sauc3
Showdown in Downtown 6 - March 10th, 2012 - 3/39
Wins: Patches x2 (5th on SOPR), Suzaku x2 (4th on SOPR)
Losses: Ally, Holynightmare
Uh...took a game off of Ally's Snake? That can't hurt, right? XD
[/COLLAPSE]

As you can see the biggest thing I have going for myself is my placings. I'm aware that the people PR'd in my region aren't exactly notable wins atm.