The Snake FAQ/Q&A Thread

[Superspright]

Ultimate counter to IC's grabs: Leave nades around.

The end. Getting grabbed won't be much of a problem when you can always blow up when they grab ya.

 

[6Mizu]

Yea, but that's if you cooked...them and if the explosion even hits them.

@ Yume: Don't worry I'll impress you by placing well....I've been working on that since .......like 5 or so months ago.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

Or you can just avoid getting grabbed, its reall not that hard considering their ****ty grab range, just run around and camp.

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

*attempt to chock you but realize you have no neck.*

****

-copys you and chokes you out becuz you do happen too have a neck- =D

 

[Yumewomiteru]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf

 

[6Mizu]

Or you can just avoid getting grabbed, its reall not that hard considering their ****ty grab range, just run around and camp.

You could do this but eventually you get grabbed. Just think about it.

-copys you and chokes you out becuz you do happen too have a neck- =D

LOL....Not possible...Yume's to smart, you'll just get Grenade countered.

 

[Sinz]

Alright, you guys don't know the ICs match up at all.

****.

Alright, yes nades are great against the ICs, but they aren't the answer for everything against them. The ICs can walking chaingrab you away from your grenades.

Snakes real strength is his ability of shield pressure and his ability to seperate nana from popo and then instantly kill nana.

You retreat with your nades and cook them. Then you throw them. If they approach while you are cooking grab and IMMEDIATELY back throw. No hesitation.

Ftilt and utilt are obviously great in this MU. They can seperate nana and can keep you at a distance. Unless you hit with the first hit of ftilt DON'T use ftilt2.

Try to keep a nade out at all times. It helps.

If mikehazing isn't banned use it. (jerk move but money is money.)

 

[Yumewomiteru]

lol Mikehazing, Maybe I should bring a blow horn with me to take it to the max.

 

[6Mizu]

LOL about MikeHAZing. Luv that vid....LOL. That's so gay!

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

You could do this but eventually you get grabbed. Just think about it.



LOL....Not possible...Yume's to smart, you'll just get Grenade countered.

I had port priority




also sinz is right about insta-killing nana... if she seperates from popo its a garunteed F-smash cuz she just trys to walk right through snake -_-

 

[6Mizu]

I had port priority




also sinz is right about insta-killing nana... if she seperates from popo its a garunteed F-smash cuz she just trys to walk right through snake -_-

Ahh....okay. I under stand why.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

Nahhh, I don't do that, when I fsmash I aim to hit them both, cuz I'm good like that. =P

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

yume be scrubbin it up 24/7

 

[Yumewomiteru]

yah okay, I can grape you any day of the week.

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

yume, as you can see by my avi, i throw grape around like its somethin to do

 

[llamapaste]

What is the more common for Snake? Tap jump on or off and why? Another controller layout question for me. I was mainly just wondering.

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

tap jump on is for pros

 

[6Mizu]

I go w/ tap jump on. What Ally doesn't he have it on? or does he play with it off?

 

[Yumewomiteru]

I used to have it on for the longest time, then i turned it off so i can dash dance and di better.

Plus i can do everything with tap jump on just as well as with tap jump off.

 

[6Mizu]

Wait, how does tap jump off help D.I. ?

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

^ it makes no difference :/

 

[6Mizu]

Really?
But...but, Yume said, it did.

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

it doesnt... -_-;

it prevents accidental loss of jumps though i guess :/

 

[6Mizu]

Oohh, alright. Thanks. So I'm guessing Yume acceidentally did jumps while D.I.-ing sometimes or something.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

No, its so you can hold the control stick up after doing a move with out jumping, that way if you do get hit youll DI up which is usually the right way to DI if you get hit to the sides.

 

[llamapaste]

That might be a big plus for me Yume cause I have di trouble. I usually play tap on but I'll try the other way. Thanks.

 

[Sinz]

I know a few players who have it both ways.

Pros of having it on.
You can buffer for double hop nair. (I love this. It comes out so nicely.)

Pros for having it off.
Easier to uptilt.

If you having trouble with di. Tap jump won't save you.

 

[llamapaste]

Sinz helping a fellow MD/northern Virginian. And yes Sinz, that goes without saying. I'm working on my di. I don't know if this means anything, but I survived a Marth upsmash in the high 140's on lylat. (I started in the 140's and after the u-smash I was at like 163%.)

 

[Sinz]

Fun times. Snake's weight is one of his best factors.

 

[DZhou]

How do you land when ur high up and MK follows you and waits for/baits an airdodge?

Pull out a nade?

 

[Yumewomiteru]

get above him, mash jump, get the footstool, win.

btw, did I see you at HK's Shaft by any chance?

 

[AvoiD]

How would you guys play the DK matchup? Advice, please. :]

and anything I should be on the lookout for besides spaced Bairs, cargo throw stage spike, Dthrow to whatever. I know most of what DK can do, I just don't how to play it correctly. Camp, lol.

 

[Sinz]

How do you land when ur high up and MK follows you and waits for/baits an airdodge?

Pull out a nade?

Against MK you really have to be careful when you are high up. You can die as early as 100 from an up air up there. Nade reversing is your best bet. You really have to mix it up.

Before you nade reverse do a c4 reverse. It leaves you in a better position(no nade in hand and all.)

EDIT:

Against DK ask him to Double blind.

Just CP d3 and you won't have any troubles.

EDIT2: I will get you some help in just a bit. I have some things to take care of. However, after I am done I will toss out some tips.

 

[DZhou]

get above him, mash jump, get the footstool, win.

btw, did I see you at HK's Shaft by any chance?

I didnt go but 2 of my friends did.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

Ohhh, yeah I talked with them for a while, they seem like really cool people ^.^
You guys should come to more tourneys, its fun!

And now we have another snake boarder from MA, hehehe.

 

[Slaps]

Hey guys this is my first time on the Snake boards and I got a question about pulling nade/c4 and reversing momentum. I did read the front page about it but still i can't seem to do it correctly =\ is there any more descriptive way on how to do it because I do it when I am not trying to but i can't do it when i want to.

 

[Yumewomiteru]

1. Read OP
2. Make sure you understand how to do it
3. Practice.

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

what yume (the mad person...) said

 

[luke_atyeo]

Post count mean nothing, impress me by placing well at tourneys. =P

post count means nothing, impress me by spelling choke properly

tap jump on is for pros

quoted for truth

How would you guys play the DK matchup? Advice, please. :]

and anything I should be on the lookout for besides spaced Bairs, cargo throw stage spike, Dthrow to whatever. I know most of what DK can do, I just don't how to play it correctly. Camp, lol.

unless the DK has perfect bair vertical spacing (which he wont because he'll want 2 in 1 jump) you can crawl under bair and punish with dtilt, camping is really good against dk, use it alot, OOS dair is good too because dk is so big and its hard to correctly di the knockback from it, if your playing on a level like battlefield or lylat, place c4 on the plaform closest to the edge that you knocked dk off, then simply ledge hog his upB to force him onto the stage, and ledgejump and setoff the c4, great kill setup.

also if he tries to cargo throw you off the side and then fair you, fair him instead, snakes comes out faster.


and as for IC's, they are easy, its like that guy was saying before, snake seperates them so easily with all of his moves.
plus its not hard to grab popo, do a back throw and then charge an fsmash, nana will run right through snake into it and get *****.

 

[MiniTroika]

Is the triple jab guaranteed on DDD if he's up close and doesn't smash Di?