Tornado doesnt work well vs good players, period.
You're stupid.
I would stop there but I don't want to sound like there isn't a reason for calling you stupid.
Brawl is a game that has a limit for every character excluding mindgames and I guess you could call it strategy formed by individual players.
Melee had techskill. There were probably 10 characters that had an equal shot of winning depending on how you use them. Each with drawbacks and positives. The limit in that system was less for top play.
Metaknight breaks this rule. Metaknight is by far the best character, and even when characters like Diddy create a system of playing which almost requires little thought to put into playing him like what NinjaLink does, it doesn't mean Metaknight should be allowed. Metaknight has future to evolve in a game where characters have already reached this point.
People of the same skill level at high level play are dependant on which characters has what limits. Watch Azen's ike vs m2k's metaknight. It's pitiful to watch. Azen then picks metaknight and is pretty equal.
You shouldn't allow a character for the sole reason on "People are finding ways around him to beat him.....but he will constantly evolve". Seriously, that doesn't make sense. If you ban metaknight, each character then can be countered and the system becomes more legit. Stagepicks would mean more, and there will never be the option of losing with your main, then picking metaknight.
Sorry bro, but you main metaknight and have a bias in this arguement. If you want to gain respect from the whole community and not just other meta mains, use a character with limitations, then try to work with it, instead of picking someone with abuseable moves and requires no skill to perform.
And who are you to say that the tornado is ineffective against pro players? Your ****ing dumb for saying that in general
There is no other character which has a more safe recovery and b moves. Tell me it's because of the skill of the person, and you are ignorant of the limits of other characters. If thats true, then the pro should be able to space such a move as the tornado with another character and have the same effect. To berrate the shield, then to run away. I can't think of any other character like that.
For the rest of the people who went in on this decision.
Think about what your thinking of. You're saying that metaknight is able to be beaten. Congrats, DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. OBVIOUSLY everyone player can be beaten no matter what character he picks in this game. If you are just a bad meta player, you'll get beaten.
I thought the whole Idea of this topic was to think about what limits meta has (NONE), what bad matchups meta has (NONE), what POTENTIALLY he can do in the future (ANYTHING). I don't care how anyone else's metaknight does in tournaments, becuase there is such a huge difference in the skill levels of say M2K and Azen. They play this game to a point where they find why Metaknight can win everytime.
It's unfair for people to go up against people like m2k with anyone besides metaknight when versing his metaknight. If you ban metaknight, his best character would be dedede, someone that can easily be countered, and there in lies the equal advantage to everyone that plays this game. This game is broken with metaknight, and becomes a metagame after hes banned. So out of thos options...I pick...
MELEE
Metaknight players fail. Learn this game instead of learning how to 3 stock everycharacter.
Plairnk, you should money match people with someone besides metaknight against their metaknight with the same skill level as you. See how that goes for you
