The Old Diddy Social/General/Q&A Thread

[chimpact]

-2/3 I think

 

[Praxis]

>-)

So...that means tether grabbers can't shieldgrab Diddy's dash attack.

Diddy's grab is what, six frame startup?

6+3 = 9 frames between the last hitbox of Diddy's dash attack and the grab.

Toon Link's grab comes out on frame 12.

That makes dash attacking his shield very interesting...since you can dash attack > grab faster than he can shieldgrab.

 

[TreK]

Yup, Diddy's dash attack is broken on tethered guys's shield
But TL will not let his shield for long because of it ; all his aerials and 2 of his projectiles go through our dash attack, and they're viable against bananas so it's a good replacement.

 

[Lazee]

Holy **** praxis can you become a diddy main lol

 

[ADHD]

It would matter if people played characters who have tether grabs!!

 

[Praxis]

Yup, Diddy's dash attack is broken on tethered guys's shield
But TL will not let his shield for long because of it ; all his aerials and 2 of his projectiles go through our dash attack, and they're viable against bananas so it's a good replacement.

Naw if you're forcing his spacing with bananas you can put him in situations where you can dash attack his shield.

It would matter if people played characters who have tether grabs!!

Chip, the TL who beat MikeHAZE and Hylian and Co18 at Genesis, is #2 on WA PR, and Weruop, an Olimar (beat DEHF at TP2) is #1.

Holy **** praxis can you become a diddy main lol

lolol
I'm starting to play Diddy a lot more 'cause he's fun. We'll see what I can come up with.

In the meantime, can anyone give me some Diddy vs Falco tips? Xefnir and I decided to pick up serious seconds a bout two weeks back. He went Falco and I went Diddy. I found I can side-B guaranteed OOS if he reflectors my shield while I'm holding a banana. We run fairly even, but I'm not sure the logic I should have in the matchup. I just run up to him with a banana in hand and try to bait and read his reaction, then throw crap at his recovery.

 

[Xyless]

wtf get out of here Praxis!

 

[Sinz]

Dekar went on Auto pilot and lost vs Inui in the 50$ mm. 3-0. He needs to evaluate his options a bit better. He still ****ing rocks.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

Hmmm.

I wonder how that $100 rematch is going to go. Maybe He'll do better next time.

 

[Sinz]

Inui said no the 100$ rematch.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

Really?

Awww that sucks. Somebody provoke Inui to play it lol

 

[Melomaniacal]

He went on autopilot during a $50 money match? For three games?

 

[Boofy!]

Don't john for him Sinz, he lost.. Dekar is good, but he was cocky going in, and underestimated Inui, who is not exactly bad himself and knows how to play against Diddy. Whatevs though gg both ya'll

 

[Sinz]

Dekar is out, he lost to Dojo(2-1) and Ozz( don't know.)

 

[Gnes]

Uh He took Dojo to last game...dekar is legit...seriously...and ozz plays falco.

 

[ADHD]

Dojo sucks against diddy

Attention everyone: I beat anti 3-1 losers finals, and 3-0'd ally in the first set of grand finals, then went to game 5 the second set and lost

 

[Player-1]

epic failure

 

[Gnes]

I beat Razer 2-0 in winners bracket. Get at me. Loser

 

[ADHD]

I beat Razer 2-0 in winners bracket. Get at me. Loser

I made Razer cry. GET AT ME MORE.

 

[chimpact]

I make my little cousin cry. GET @ ME

 

[Gnes]

Why u mean???

 

[chimpact]

Here's the story. he 3 stocked my diddy on final d as ganondorf. I got mad so i went mk and cp'd rc. I barely beat his ganon there it was 1 stock high %, and i trash talked him so he cried.

 

[Ingulit]

I never beat people :'(

I got at

 

[ADHD]

Gnes post your dubz vids so I can copy kthx.

 

[tibs7]

i was so close to losing to a GnW yesterday...why do we have the advantage? i need help =(

 

[Dark Ryu]

i was so close to losing to a GnW yesterday...why do we have the advantage? i need help =(

Don't approach, and make sure to always have a banana in hand. Camp him until he approaches and then shield/punish accordingly. :D

 

[Praxis]

i was so close to losing to a GnW yesterday...why do we have the advantage? i need help =(

Because G&W is a garbage character that shouldn't beat anyone with a brain, especially least of all Diddy whose 3-frame-OOS bananas go through ALL of his attacks and has no bucketable projectiles.

G&W has no viable approach, can be camped, has a bad roll so is easy to naner techchase, and just in general sucks. Don't get hit.

 

[Ingulit]

Because G&W is a garbage character that shouldn't beat anyone with a brain, especially least of all Diddy whose 3-frame-OOS bananas go through ALL of his attacks and has no bucketable projectiles.

G&W has no viable approach, can be camped, has a bad roll so is easy to naner techchase, and just in general sucks. Don't get hit.

Wut about RC? I got beat out by a Fox main (a very good Fox main) at a tournament in round 3 because he went RC and surprised me with G&W.

EDIT: Is anything good ever posted on AiB? I want to know in case there's stuff I should put in the Kongpendium I've missed.

EDIT 2: NEVERMIND, I just went through ALL FOUR of the pages of the Diddy Kong character chat there, and it was nothing but crap

 

[Gnes]

Gnes post your dubz vids so I can copy kthx.

Nope. U can have singles son. Im a doubles god now. Peace out.

Because G&W is a garbage character that shouldn't beat anyone with a brain, especially least of all Diddy whose 3-frame-OOS bananas go through ALL of his attacks and has no bucketable projectiles.

G&W has no viable approach, can be camped, has a bad roll so is easy to naner techchase, and just in general sucks. Don't get hit.

Play UTD Zac.

 

[Praxis]

Wut about RC? I got beat out by a Fox main (a very good Fox main) at a tournament in round 3 because he went RC and surprised me with G&W.

Oh, yeah, you're screwed if you let a G&W take you to rainbow cruise.

Also, I love AiB but it's terrible for character discussions.

Play UTD Zac.

I have. I've played all the top G&W's on the west coast, and some on the EC, including Lee Puff, UTD Zac, Valdens, Hylian, Vex Karasani, Hebrew Hammer, GDX (Diddy main G&W second), Onski, etc etc. I make it a point to MM every G&W everywhere I travel to. I ran pretty even with Zac at Genesis (but he nine'd me at 30% D: DARN YOU ZAC). I also <3 him, he's awesome, and he's probably just outright better than me. And he agrees with my assessment of the character.


People just don't know how to fight G&W. I've beaten almost every G&W in the country using a mediocre mid tier character, with an airdodge so bad (30 frames of lag, worst in the game) that it can't even make it safely through his nair or bair without getting hit and a projectile that disappears on contact with any of his hitboxes, and who cannot reliably kill G&W until 200% thanks to stale moves and no kill power.



And I wish to reemphasize, I <3 UTD Zac.

 

[Xyless]

Praxis: the G&W hunter.

 

[Gnes]

Its different with Diddy. Im not saying its not easy...but the matchup isn't so plain as to say if u have a naner u can punish all his moves. Also if he gets u over the ledge 85% of the time its a stock though i think im figuring out a way how to consistently use GAW's UP B physics to my advantage.

 

[Healer]

I have a question about diddy, my main is wolf, and although i find him to be a great character there are some matchups that will kill me, namely D3, and possibly pika if the player buffers the chaingrab. I read on the wolf boards that diddy is a good secondary, and for me it was either falco or diddy, but since I like diddy i wanna give him a try. My question is how can i make the transition from wolf to diddy painless, like how can i deal without the reflector and most importantly I heard I can use diddy's side b as a recovery (cool kinda like wolf) should i because the up b recovery is my only major gripe about diddy. Thanks

 

[Player-1]

Oh, yeah, you're screwed if you let a G&W take you to rainbow cruise.

pfft, RC is pro, scrub.

 

[ADHD]

Hehe I saw them. I understand how you camp now. You need to be more accurate with your punishments, some of the spacing on your fsmashes was attrocious and there wasn't even a reason to fsmash. At another point, you ftilted wario at 160 when an fsmash WOULD have hit and killed him in the first place. Some areas you glidetoss into other people's shields and get punished <_< Other than that it was genius. So should I team with someone that can afford to attack heavily?

Don't get me started in singles.. Just think linear pressure, all I can say.

 

[Dekar173]

Inui was too smart to rematch.

I just wish my matches against Dojo were on livestream so I could prove to everyone what's been said XD

It was last hit last match (for me, anyway... I was at 40% and he was around 150%+) and I got a forced trip with the naner and... GRABBED. God I'm dumb lol. THEN he ***** me with a gimp, GG for me. I was one dsmash from beating him, and choked hard lol.

Then random tripping ***** me against Ozz, HARD. I should have beaten him even harder to the point where that random stuff didn't matter, but honestly tripping into a fully charged fsmash ruins momentum, as does tripping when you're going to ledgegrab against Falco's upB o.o

<3 my anti-trip tourneys in NM lmao

 

[Praxis]

No Johnnnnnnnnnnnnnnns.

 

[napZzz]

a diddy main tripping? SUCH IRONY!

 

[Player-1]

a diddy main tripping? SUCH IRONY!

no, there's a distinct difference b/w tripping and slipping...

 

[napZzz]

they both have the same animation so it should be considered the same thing. THe banana trip is just forced.