The Old Diddy Social/General/Q&A Thread

[Player-1]

this has been known for a looooong time at least a year. ninjalink has a good match on youtube vs m2k where he abuses the **** out of it but it is privated

 

[SaveMeJebus]

this has been known for a looooong time at least a year. ninjalink has a good match on youtube vs m2k where he abuses the **** out of it but it is privated

Well what good does that do me if I can't see the ****ing video. He never posted anything about it on his tech vids.

 

[sai_:)]

How come no one instant ground throws? The reason I didn't do them before is because of how hard it was for me to do them facing right.

I think the reason it isnt done that often is because it doesnt have to be. A lot of the time if i have my banana next to me like that in my mind im like "GOOD TIME TO CAMP". I use it every once in a while and its always cool looking, but its just not gonna be needed that often.

Edit: Also usually if your far enough away to instant ground toss it, have it hit your opponent(or their shield), and you ARENT in range to be punished...then you shouldnt be able to follow it up with anything.

Its not anything bad, its just situational and many times theres a better option.

 

[TreK]

Broken dropping is done by pressing R and A at the same time in the air, while holding a banana.

Its uses are too good. Destroying a boomerang, baiting a dash attack, shield pressuring perfectly, anti-juggles stuff, and do all of that with no lag so you can just retreat if you missed. GGs, you are now broken =D

 

[AvaricePanda]

Sai taught me the instant drop + airdodge thing (broken dropping). It's so good lol

 

[SaveMeJebus]

could broken dropping help us blow up grenades?

 

[NinjaLink]

this has been known for a looooong time at least a year. ninjalink has a good match on youtube vs m2k where he abuses the **** out of it but it is privated

Sure is.

lol at slow ****.

Anyway.....i have nothin else to say.

 

[Ingulit]

could broken dropping help us blow up grenades?

*Instant Dropping; he's calling it "Broken Dropping" as a joke. That is not the name of the tech.

And possibly I guess

NinjaLink, you posted the Popgun Cancel originally, right? I don't remember you saying you could Z-Drop instead of Airdodge back then! I'd be using this already if someone had just mentioned it

 

[Player-1]

he never mentioned it, it's just in a private vid that i remember Thien showing me about a year ago

 

[Kaptain Kong]

yeah, and a lot of people found this out themselves
pretty sure it was posted a while back

 

[Ingulit]

If there is ever a new AT that is posted, OR if I forgot one in the Kongpendium, PLEASE somebody post it in there describing the AT and its uses. As far as the Z-Drop thing is concerned, if it was posted before, I missed it, and thus never added it.

 

[Player-1]

I don't think it was ever posted because it's kind of obvious that it exist, I've always known it does that, but never found it to be useful. Z makes you air dodge just like L and R so it would do the same thing that L and R do

 

[Ingulit]

I don't think it was ever posted because it's kind of obvious that it exist, I've always known it does that, but never found it to be useful. Z makes you air dodge just like L and R so it would do the same thing that L and R do

If you have a Banana in hand and are in the air, if you charge the Popgun slightly and then press Z, you will NOT Airdodge. You'll just Z-Drop the Banana and the Popgun animation will end, and you can then immediately do an aerial. It isn't like Instant Dropping; you shouldn't be Airdodging if you're doing it right.

EDIT: If you just press Z without a Banana, yes, you'll Airdodge, but that's definitely obvious. Also, you can't immediately cancel the Popgun; you need to charge it slightly (such that if you press L or R, you'd Airdodge).

EDIT 2: 900 BABY

 

[Player-1]

Yeah, I know. I was just saying that using Z to popgun cancel obviously works because L and R do the same thing, and if you have a banana in your hand then, IMO, it's even more obvious that it would Z drop because you have a banana. I just never thought it was that useful until I saw NL use it, then I tried doing it myself and didn't find it that useful =/

 

[Ingulit]

Call me stupid, but for the record I never crossed that gap from "Z to Popgun Cancel works" to "Z with a Banana in hand after you charge the Popgun for a while Z-Drops the Banana." I didn't find it obvious.

Again, if you guys see anything that I've left out of the Kongpendium (like this), please post it there. Also, my sum knowledge of Diddy is contained in the Kongpendium, so if it's not in there, I probably don't know about it xD

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Yeah, I know. I was just saying that using Z to popgun cancel obviously works because L and R do the same thing, and if you have a banana in your hand then, IMO, it's even more obvious that it would Z drop because you have a banana. I just never thought it was that useful until I saw NL use it, then I tried doing it myself and didn't find it that useful =/

What??? This makes no sense. I never once before heard of anybody mention this or see it once in a video. I think that even if you don't use this in every MU, It can prove useful in most.

EDIT: I don't think anyone has mentioned this but if you are holding a banana, you can do a slingshot charged Fsmash by pressing the z button. I'm not sure if slingshot is the term I am looking for though

 

[Ingulit]

What??? This makes no sense. I never once before heard of anybody mention this or see it once in a video. I think that even if you don't use this in every MU, It can prove useful in most.

Okay, I have to ask now... Just how long have you been lurking around here, exactly?

 

[Player-1]

Well I have seen it in a video so me>you =)

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Okay, I have to ask now... Just how long have you been lurking around here, exactly?

Well I've been coming to smashboards since the melee days but I never made an account until now

Well I have seen it in a video so me>you =)

then again you could just be making it all up. Who's to say that I didn't invent the SNL and the only reason I did not post anything up because I had no account

 

[Ingulit]

Hey guys sorry to spoil it but Brawl doesn't actually exist I made it up

We've really all been playing competitive Mario Kart this entire time

I hate Banana Peels in Mario Kart

 

[SaveMeJebus]

they should have put karts as items in brawl

 

[Ingulit]

they should have put karts as items in brawl

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Mario_Circuit

 

[SaveMeJebus]

I hate that stage

 

[vato_break]

me too

 

[Kaptain Kong]

Hey guys sorry to spoil it but Brawl doesn't actually exist I made it up

We've really all been playing competitive Mario Kart this entire time

I hate Banana Peels in Mario Kart

ok, everyone switch mains to blue shell

 

[Ingulit]

ok, everyone switch mains to blue shell

God dang it, why isn't blue shell banned yet? I am ardently staying pro-ban, I don't care what you guys say. Blue shell always has the answer. ALWAYS.

I'm sticking with my triple red shells, kthx

 

[SaveMeJebus]

your all nuts. It's all about the star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DFEAR]

T.T i come bak one month later and still nothing new...

brb again xD

 

[NinjaLink]

*Instant Dropping; he's calling it "Broken Dropping" as a joke. That is not the name of the tech.

And possibly I guess

NinjaLink, you posted the Popgun Cancel originally, right? I don't remember you saying you could Z-Drop instead of Airdodge back then! I'd be using this already if someone had just mentioned it

I have vids of me doin it to m2k like last year in finals. Private lol.

 

[Toneh]

can u drop a nana while getin cg'ed by D3/falco? I remember that awhile back but duno if it was answered,
and i couldn't figure it out

 

[Kaptain Kong]

yup
press and hold r then press a during hitstun
its similar timing to an instant drop

 

[Player-1]

Well I've been coming to smashboards since the melee days but I never made an account until now


then again you could just be making it all up. Who's to say that I didn't invent the SNL and the only reason I did not post anything up because I had no account

because I've seen it, NL vouches for it, and ADHD can also vouch for it.

 

[Toneh]

yup
press and hold r then press a during hitstun
its similar timing to an instant drop

ok ill try it out later when i get the chance. I was spamming R+A before but it wasnt working

 

[sai_:)]

yup
press and hold r then press a during hitstun
its similar timing to an instant drop

Wait even if they are like frame perfect it works???

 

[NinjaLink]

Well D3 was CGing me on a wall and it dropped. This was like april 08 lol

 

[SaveMeJebus]

instant dropping can be used to blow up grenades from campy snakes. This means that if we get the lead we never have to approach!!! we should now officially call it broken dropping

 

[AvaricePanda]

I don't really approach in that match-up anyway lol. I'm so much better against campy snakes; any snake with a good CQC or boxing game demolishes me.

It's good in this instance but it's not something I would rely on. There's a lot of ways Diddy can avoid being blown up by grenades, and using just one would get you punished—for examples, this doesn't work if he cooks+throws two grenades near the same time, or spaces a bit closer to you before throwing the grenade, knowing you'll airdodge, then dash-attacking or DACUSing or something.

If the Snake player doesn't cook the grenade well, you can instant throw it back. I don't know how gimmicky it is, but it works a couple times for me.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

I'm not saying that by doing this alone you force snake to approach. I'm saying to also put this into use with what you do to avoid the grenades. if they cook the grenade then you could just blow the first one up with the instant dropping and shield the next one.

 

[DFEAR]

instant dropping/broken dropping- your welcome...

yo i instant drop my banana after the grenades hit my shield then hold r as u come down and u should powershield/shield automatically during that time the grenade/s blow up so yea alternate method to avoidin nades

 

[Player-1]

i always called it dodge dropping since that's what it was originally named >.>