The Official Yoshi FAQ/Q&A Thread -- [Please look here before posting!]

[Mr. game and watch]

One time I did (let's just call it egg ledge snapping?) ELS, (sure, why not) and threw an egg BEFORE snapping onto the ledge.
I'll test it out some.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

When you crouch and crawl backwards towards the ledge and instantly ^B, you pop back onto the ledge.
Is this known/useful?
I can do more testing if you wan.

Didn't know, Played with it though, and seems useless. ETS lets us throw an egg, and grab the ledge. AND we can do that while running. Best use i can find for this is A flashy ledgehog.

Test it if you want though, you might find something cool to do with it.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Can you fastfall during the Up B animation? If so, we could prob fall beneath the ledge and throw an egg while falling. Dunno how that'd really help us much aside from a fancy shenanigan, but possible uses could arise I guess.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Well for one, it takes our max egg on the ledge limit from 5 to 6, also you can throw your five eggs on the ledge, get up attack and pop right back onto the ledge using this technique, haveing another five.



edit: you can fast fall, when you do you throw a egg over the ledge but don't grab it.
Then you run the risk of recovering with yoshi.
Might could be used in doubles if you were a boss and like "egg one guy, drop down here and fair spike him and recover!"
not excactly likely tho...:/
it's gotta have some use!

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

It doesn't give us an "Extra" egg because the "Extra" one doesn't come out lol. Its started on stage meaning it doesn't count for our 5 that much is true, but the only way that's relevant to anything is if the egg comes out.

ETS is the better option. You get a ledge grab and a free egg.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Perhaps it could have opposite effect, and you get one less egg.
I have ONCE gotten the egg out before grabbing the ledge.
My brothers stupid about our wii tho and won't let me hack it, so ATM no frame testing for me:/

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Double post cause I found something.
When you crawl FORWARDS at the ledge, and egg back towards the stage, if you do it just right you egg forward an land on the stage.
I'm not sure at all how to do this, but it could be a good mindgame with your eggs.

The only problem is that it's so hard to do consistently I rage quit'd training mode.
If you don't time it right, you do that whole "ohai, I'm floating backwards while throwing an egg" thing yoshi like to do to mess you up while recovering.
Or, of course, you egg roll instead of even leaving the stage
I can't frame test cause my brother won't let me hack the dang wii.
Someone else wanna look at frames for me and see when and what you have to do your ^B?

Unless this is known of course

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

Poll from the BBR-RC to the public: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=310386

Discussion about it is not allowed per site rules (even in this thread), but we are allowed to conduct this poll

you heard it from me

 

[Z'zgashi]

Actually, no, I didnt hear it from you.

 

[CoonTail]

Hey guys I read all the guide lines and I believe I am in the right place. I had an odd moment in a replay I just uploaded, but didn't really give it any thought till I rewatched it just before here at work.

Here is the replay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHpHGkUKf9Q

At 1:50 I manage to pokeswitch or down B out of yoshi's grab release on squirtle. Though I originally brushed it off as a mis-timing of regrab I watched the video again to find the timing seemed on point and before yoshi had extended his tongue a third of the way for the regrab I had already initiated the switch. Pause the video at 1:49 to see what I am talking about.

I am not sure what happened so any thoughts or solid answers will gladly be heard out.

 

[Sinister Slush]

>See's the stage is Yoshi's island.
The Stage of Yoshi's island is slanted, You most likely started bashing DownB to try and escape since jumping doesn't work for Squirtle/Charizard.
Basically you landed and used DownB before he was able to regrab you.

That's dumb, we really can't edit our posts without it showing under two minutes anymore...

 

[CoonTail]

Yes Supreme Dirt told me the same thing, the issue is if you rewatch it I land on flat ground not slanted :o

 

[Sinister Slush]

Since you don't seem to understand what I mean, here's A paint image I did in less then a minute.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Slush, I dont see what you're getting at here...

 

[CoonTail]

thanks sinister I was really aware this affected yoshi's GR on squirtle.

 

[Z'zgashi]

If you were talking about getting out of Yoshi's CG, that's cuz the Yoshi did it considerably slow and it was also uphill so you hit the ground early.

 

[CoonTail]

Already got my answer from sinister no need to repeat it.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Oh, well alright then.

 

[Sharky]

yeah idk if that cg was buffered, it looks a little off

 

[Mr. game and watch]

What's the point of DR?

 

[Sinister Slush]

To look fancy and trick the opponent into thinking you're running away from one of their moves only to DR and punish them, or use it to get away from a move you can't avoid by just turning around.

Even though I haven't perfected it, I usually try DR hundreds of times in most of my matches and whenever I do get it, it mostly works when I need to punish someone like DR'ing onto a platform on (Say) PS2 and trick them into thinking i'm going to use Uair on them so they airdodge and get a Charged USmash instead.

 

[Scatz]

Pretty sure looking fancy is the opposite from making it work.

 

[Z'zgashi]

DR lets you do running smash attacks (not counting usmash) or running tilts, which give you better reach, have less lag, or allow you to punish more things and with more damage output.

 

[Airborne]

DR is best applied using DR Pivot Grab, retreating DR Jab, and ****** Delta across the stage with repetitive DR Dtilts. ;D

Basically it lets you not have to commit to your approaches.

 

[Z'zgashi]

What Airborne said. Lol.

 

[Scatz]

Someone understands what i've explained about DR.

 

[Airborne]

Someone understands what i've explained about DR.

It's because I'm the only other person that's fully implemented it into my style.... Oh wait, I forgot to announce that. HEY GUYS, I'M BAAAAACK

 

[Z'zgashi]

Welcome back. I see you're repping dat Chicken Bacon Ranch in yo sig. Mmmmmmm.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

What's yoshis most important AT to learn?

 

[Airborne]

All of them.

 

[Z'zgashi]

@MGW: Imo just simple wavebouncing, it helps a ton in your maneuverability, mind games, and helps you play more safe; not to mention its VERY easy to do compared to most AT's, it carries over to other characters in the game as they can do it too, and it's arguably best for Yoshi out of all the characters in the game due to our air speed. Also, it's not only just how to do it, but how to use it effectively in a match as well.

 

[Sky Pirate]

EDIT: Ignore this, I'm dumb.

 

[Z'zgashi]

He rolled, then dsmashed after the roll...

 

[Sky Pirate]

Oh, derp. T_T

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Zz knock it out yo



How do I.... Oh wait.
MU thread...

Does downB have any use other than looking cool dive bombing onto the ledge?

I heard you can jab to downB but idk

 

[Z'zgashi]

It shield pokes shields that are low like a boss, is generally pretty fast therefore having mix up potential, and it's a good kill move that is rarely ever stale.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

But it also has gay ending lag.
Does the risk out weigh the reward?

Well I mean I'm sure that depends on the situation...

 

[Z'zgashi]

It can, but so do almost all of our kill options.

 

[Yikarur]

it's our fastest kill move.
and you can use it to punish airdodge when you DJ past them.
you can use it to kill opponents when they try to space aerials below you.
Yoshis Island.
it's a pretty good move.

 

[Z'zgashi]

^ ***** on slanted platforms and slopes.