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Because people who win tournaments would rather win with metaknight/snake/dedede/G+W ect. than nessNess mains are annoying...........
If Ness is so good, then why is he in E rank? Why don't acually you go to tournies and win if you're so tired of people thinking Ness is crap.......>_>
Oh I totally agree with this. I don't think too much of the tier list, but I do say that there are a lot of chracters in the tier list that is over picked and stuff.Because people who win tournaments would rather win with metaknight/snake/dedede/G+W ect. than ness
Sakurai is just too stupid to realize that.In addition, all of the DreamLand characters are ridiculously good for some odd reason.........
He's not stupid. He's actually very clever. He was able to sneak in 3 overpowered characters under the table and make it unknown to everyone except the people that actually know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to smash.Sakurai is just too stupid to realize that.
I said his fsmash isKirby isn't overpowered.
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well too bad, its there and i love the way it came out. plus there are stronger moves out there than kirby's fsmash. snake's tilts anyone?I said his fsmash is
I absolutely despise his fsmash
So you think he actually thought about the competitive scene? Oh yeah, that's why he added trippingHe's not stupid. He's actually very clever. He was able to sneak in 3 overpowered characters under the table and make it unknown to everyone except the people that actually know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to smash.
I think Zelda will be taking a massive drop. I play her and love her to death.........but she absolutely can not deal with most forms of camping.so i had a thought.
since this list came out, ive heard and seen many characters in mid and low tier actually get some of their potential unlocked and seriously become better characters. the two that come to mind immediately are sonic and yoshi. i really think that neither of these two are low tier. of course, there are others but the point is that, ive heard every character getting better over time. good enough to get them a higher place on this list
my question is this.
what characters have gotten worse, if characters are good enough to get higher, what characters have actually gotten worse through the passage of time. because i really havent heard anything along those lines.
who will be moving DOWN in the tier list?
my only guess would be wolf, but hes still a rediculously solid character...
i will def agree with you there, peach has made leaps and bounds in her metagame, mostly thanx to edrees and dark.pch and all the other peach mains out there that keep trying to improve her metagame. ankokus rankings list puts her in B rank actually tied for 8th place.ZSS & Peach will move up. Peach's potential was already here when they made the list, it was just unnoticed
Well knowing that almost all of the SBR treat him like a Joke Character, I wouldn't be surprised if he only went up abut 1 or 2 spots. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't move or even went down.I still can't begin to guess what's going to happen with Yoshi.
yeah i know how ya feel Mmac, at least your not a ganon main tho lol.Well knowing that almost all of the SBR treat him like a Joke Character, I wouldn't be surprised if he only went up abut 1 or 2 spots. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't move or even went down.
yeah pika seems to be moving up.....i'll never forget the discussion we had in the peach boards mister.e lol......that was the longest matchup discussion i have ever had. no hard feelings eh?I believe my character, Pikachu, should move up 2 or 3 spots.
Anther has taken Pikachu's metagame to new heights by proving how good his pressure game is and how his QAC is also more practical than everyone originally thought.
Plus, Pikachu has no disadvantaged match-ups among the top tier characters aside from MK and GW. And he has an easier time punishing MK more than most characters.
lol yeah dark.pch is a beast, man next time a huge tourney thats not an east/west/canada tourney is goin on someone has to give me a heads up, i don't hear about many tournies living in the middle of iowa.Lol, I'm long over that. I don't like to get nasty like that and I'd like to extend the olive branch to you if I haven't already.
Btw, I played Dark.Pch in 1 match at the C3 tournament he was speaking of... on Battlefield.
He JV 2-stocked me (1-stocked me with 0%) but then again I SUCK at BF. Next time we meet I'm gonna be better than I was, and also take him to FD or SV.
yeah i know how ya feel Mmac, at least your not a ganon main tho lol.
Give reasons as to why he should move up. He's not placing high at any prominent tournaments, in fact your not even seeing Yoshi players at any prominent tournaments.Well knowing that almost all of the SBR treat him like a Joke Character, I wouldn't be surprised if he only went up abut 1 or 2 spots. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't move or even went down.
Actually he rosed up about 20 points this week. He should be in D Rank next week, but Ankoku seems to always want to "Sink" it when Yoshi actually reaches that high.... Anyways, unless Mario/Ness also place, Yoshi should be above every character in low tier excluding Sonic.Give reasons as to why he should move up. He's not placing high at any prominent tournaments, in fact your not even seeing Yoshi players at any prominent tournaments.
Blah blah he goes even with MK and he can Dragonic Reverse and all that, but in the end he's still not doing anything in the tournament world.
I don't see how I "failed". I merely asked the question of why should he rise if he has no tourny representation and I got the usual "no one plays him" response.I would have said something here, but Mmac just did all the schooling required.
Way to fail, Marsulas.
This in ten.But R0y haz F1Re!
Apparently you didn't just hear that part about Yoshi's tournament results improving and his metagame making great strides.I agree with marsulas' statements about Yoshi. Yoshi players are claiming for months now that he does well vs MK but it never worked out that way in the slightest.
Bowser on the other hand is already proven to do well vs him (Sliq placing 3r with Booza and I think not a single MK got above him. Ally won with Snake) and even characters who are supposed to be not that good vs MK are actually doing better despite being underplayed too: Zamus (Snakeee beating lots of MKs), Luigi (Boss beating Forte) and Olimar (atomsk beating Inui + others). And we still have Diddy beating top MKs as well as DK (Bum), D3 (atomsk beating omni and forte) and Lucario of course.
So where's Yoshi?
Your precious Pikachu shouldn't move up!I believe my character, Pikachu, should move up 2 or 3 spots.
Anther has taken Pikachu's metagame to new heights by proving how good his pressure game is and how his QAC is also more practical than everyone originally thought.
Plus, Pikachu has no disadvantaged match-ups among the top tier characters aside from MK and GW. And he has an easier time punishing MK more than most characters.
Did you just insult me? I DO go to tournaments and I was poking FUN at that guy. Geez your slow. Why don't YOU go to a tournament and win eh? CF main.ness is soo good. i'm tired of people thinking he's crap.
This squirrel speaks the truth. ^_^Personally I think sonic should be at least Middle of mid tier, while ZSS should be high.
Sonic has waaay more potential than low tier. Doesn't really matter if the tier list reflects it, the char doesn't get any better or worse, but for accuracy, he's a lot better than anywhere near low tier XD.