Albert.
Smash Master
if "<3" = Ed
ED= good-@$$ sheik player lol I wouldNOT be devaluing his Sheik/knowledge if I were you.
ED= good-@$$ sheik player lol I wouldNOT be devaluing his Sheik/knowledge if I were you.
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K so here's the deal, no one cares about your character as much as you do, spamming this thread three times trying to get people to look at anything is not going to get anyone to watch and comment if they weren't going to anyways.Oh ok. soooo about that link
Cons:
* Floaty.
* Slow dash speed
* Vertical recovery is rather poor.
* Shortest vertical mid-air jump in the game (Slightly shorter than Link's & Ganondorf's)
* Noticeable ending lag if you fail to connect with Peach Bomber.
* Dies vertically at relatively low percents.
* Her Turnips disappear once they hit a shield, which removes the possibility of using a turnip again
* hard to KO at moderate percentages
* Vegetables can be used against her
Because Dair on shield isn't enough for Luca to have the advantage in the match up ?Oh yeah, so something's been bothering me. On a lot of these foreign tier lists, Lucario is disadvantaged to Sheik/Zelda combined, when in reality he does well against both of them (I'd say both are disadvantaged against him, actually).
Can anyone explain the logic, especially since getting the aerial pressure on zelda's pretty easy (also we sort of outcamp her), and sheik is just a really annoying MU for her v. Lucario?
Looks A-OK to meJust my input on the tier list, i've constantly been adjusting this over the past few months listening and reading the arguements of various people in various threads about each of the characters and this is what i've come up with:
S-MK, Snake, Diddy, Falco Wario,
A-IC, Marth, DDD, Lucario, Pikachu, Olimar, G&W
B-ZSS, ROB, Kirby, DK, Toon Link, Pit
C-Peach, Shiek, Luigi, Fox, Wolf, Sonic
D-PT, Bowser, Ike, Ness, Mario, Lucas
E-Yoshi, Zelda, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link
F-C.Falcon, Ganon.
So what do you guys think, input would be nice.
I'm pretty sure you can nair in responce to that.Because Dair on shield isn't enough for Luca to have the advantage in the match up ?
Personally, I think:Just my input on the tier list, i've constantly been adjusting this over the past few months listening and reading the arguements of various people in various threads about each of the characters and this is what i've come up with:
S-MK, Snake, Diddy, Falco Wario,
A-IC, Marth, DDD, Lucario, Pikachu, Olimar, G&W
B-ZSS, ROB, Kirby, DK, Toon Link, Pit
C-Peach, Shiek, Luigi, Fox, Wolf, Sonic
D-PT, Bowser, Ike, Ness, Mario, Lucas
E-Yoshi, Zelda, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link
F-C.Falcon, Ganon.
So what do you guys think, input would be nice.
Can the mods start warning people to stop making idiotic statements like the above?Aren't the tiers supposed to update every 3-4 months? It has been coming closer to 9-10 at this point. Give us the god **** tier!
EDIT: More like 6-7
There is no way Jiggz beats Diddy. No way.If Jigg's supperior attributes fail to convince you, then her far better overall MU spread should. She goes at the very least even with Diddy and probably beats him by a small margin.
Mario could move up...if anyone actually bothered to rep him besides Boss.Personally, I think:
Mario should be up right above PT.
Ike be moved down a bit.
Your describing Jiggs here as well bro. Also, jiggs isn't a character who is going to be spending a lot of time on the ground, in case you haven't noticed, so saying her ground game sucks is rather irrelevant.jiggz is not WAY better than cf
if anything they're about even, cf may be a bit better
people underrate him because he has no reputation at all, except for wifi players who cant go to offline tournys
and acedude
jiggs ground game is ****, except for her grabs and dash attack
the only reason jiggs isn't the worst character in the game is her side b
and that ganon sucks, really, really, REALLY bad
There is no way Jiggz beats Diddy. No way.
s/he is in the air most of the fight nana comobo are much rarer in the match up. diddy is easy for jiggy to gimp. very easy.Your describing Jiggs here as well bro. Also, jiggs isn't a character who is going to be spending a lot of time on the ground, in case you haven't noticed, so saying her ground game sucks is rather irrelevant.
Agreed. Though Jigglypuff stays in the air and can avoid Diddy's ground game (to an extent), I don't see how that's really a definite fact either. It might be about 45:55 in Diddy's favor at best.There is no way Jiggz beats Diddy. No way.
Mario could, should and probably will move up. He's been gaining more tournament rep, thankfully. I hate seeing how underrated he's been treated. He gives just about all of his match-ups a fair amount of difficulty. But like you said, he's just lacking the reputation. I'd actually like to see more Marios in the tournament seen.Mario could move up...if anyone actually bothered to rep him besides Boss.
Ike is not worse then any character below him currently. And he should be +2 if anything on that tier list.
You know that D -tier in mine is probably the area i moved and changed the most, cause those are characters that are severly underrepped, and its hard to know who is better then who.Mario could move up...if anyone actually bothered to rep him besides Boss.
Ike is not worse then any character below him currently. And he should be +2 if anything on that tier list.
Just ignore them. If they don't get any responses, they'll stop asking... hopefully.Can the mods start warning people to stop making idiotic statements like the above?
You do realize though a majority of them are probably people who just joined SWF and dont keep track of this thread to know its been asked 50billion times right? Like MT said let it go, they probably are just curious and didnt know, and I agree that maybe a note should be made in the OP that there is no set date for the next tier list release.Just ignore them. If they don't get any responses, they'll stop asking... hopefully.
Quote for truth.You do realize though a majority of them are probably people who just joined SWF and dont keep track of this thread to know its been asked 50billion times right? Like MT said let it go, they probably are just curious and didnt know, and I agree that maybe a note should be made in the OP that there is no set date for the next tier list release.