The Official SBR-B Brawl Tier List v3.0

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Did you really bring up steel in POOLS, at APEX?

Please stop, I'ma catch a heart attack.

And because stats say we lose to snakes more in tournament means snake is harder then mk? Really? Shut up, because you know that list also shows how many people played the match-up correctly, means everyone who played was good, and shows the match-up at the HIGHEST LEVEL OF PLAY.

God.

 

[phi1ny3]

Well the zoning game for one.
Take a look at the videos of recent play v. Snake, and look at the old MUs, even the more recent rediscussions, and you'll see a difference if you understand the metagame enough. It's not exactly "easy to see", but it's definitely there.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Hey Marth people:

You mind taking your hissy fit slap fights back to your boards, or PMs? You're all acting as feminine as your character, and as annoying as when she's on her period.

It's cluttering up the topic, and frankly I doubt anyone really cares about it.

 

[phi1ny3]

But I haven't been flaming D:
I've been pretty logical as of far :V
Haven't been saying "Get gud srub" and "usuk" >:O
non-rendered emoticons ftw ^_^

 

[Nidtendofreak]

I was talking about the two main people having the "BAAAAAAW, EVERYONE HATES ME!/YOU FAIL!" contest, but decided to throw in the term "Marth people" in case others were about to jump in. :D

That, and it sounded funny to me.

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

If no one cared, why is there actually a discussion going on about it? Looool

 

[Nidtendofreak]

If no one cared, why is there actually a discussion going on about it? Looool

It's basically all Marth people. >_> Centered around at least one, if not two people.

 

[V]

Hey Marth people:

You mind taking your hissy fit slap fights back to your boards, or PMs? You're all acting as feminine as your character, and as annoying as when she's on her period.

It's cluttering up the topic, and frankly I doubt anyone really cares about it.

Psssh this is coming from an Ike main. Don't you have something better to do, like, fight for your friends or something? Win some tourneys besides low tier first and then make fun of us.

EDIT: or are you making fun of almostlegendary?

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Kinda true.

For the record I don't main marth and havnt used him since snes.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Psssh this is coming from an Ike main. Don't you have something better to do, like, fight for your friends or something?

I am. :D

Win some tourneys besides low tier first and then make fun of us.

You're telling the Worse Ike in Texas to win a tournament. >_>

I'll be celebrating if I ever break top 8, lol.

EDIT: or are you making fun of almostlegendary?

Yes, though I assumed he was a Marth guy. Or at least pokes around the Marth boards a bit, seeing as others know him.

Kinda true.

For the record I don't main marth and havnt used him since snes.

>_>

<_<

You have a Marth pic, close enough.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

I am. :D



You're telling the Worse Ike in Texas to win a tournament. >_>

I'll be celebrating if I ever break top 8, lol.



Yes, though I assumed he was a Marth guy. Or at least pokes around the Marth boards a bit, seeing as others know him.



>_>

<_<

You have a Marth pic, close enough.

Na I'm a marth reject that didn't have the skills nor the drive to continue to main marth.

 

[Ripple]

so about how ZSS should drop on the next tier list....

 

[V]

I am. :D



You're telling the Worse Ike in Texas to win a tournament. >_>

I'll be celebrating if I ever break top 8, lol.



Yes, though I assumed he was a Marth guy. Or at least pokes around the Marth boards a bit, seeing as others know him.



>_>

<_<

You have a Marth pic, close enough.

I can't totally make fun of you tho. At least we come from the same game series

almostlegendary wishes he were a marth person. That's why he/she is dissing him to no end with bad arguments.

 

[Dark.Pch]

peach vs marth even? **** no where do you get your info from?

The Peach players of the WC think that Marth Vs Peach is even. Which question me about their region. If MikeHaze and Hovak are beast with Marth as I hear people going on about, How the hell they come to this statement of the match up being even?

The Answer I usually here is "Fair, Fair out of shield, camp"

Marth is not having that BS and can deal with it. Really this typical use of Fairs. Idk, man, I gave up with these kids.

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Zss is gay.

Its all about peach.

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Supposed to be an edit.

Dumb phone

 

[da K.I.D.]

Win some tourneys besides low tier first and then make fun of us.

At least Ike wins tourneys...

 

[phi1ny3]

So what's up with ZSS?

 

[V]

At least Ike wins tourneys...

And... Marth isn't winning?

EDIT: IDK much about ZSS, but I think Peach is underrated.

 

[da K.I.D.]

MikeHAZE wins, theres a difference.

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Neo wins too.

 

[Dark.Pch]

Zss is gay.

Its all about peach.

Tell these new borns of smash this once again.

Dark.Pch, Mike haze plays weird.

Is that right?

I heard Edreese beat him. I would assume they think it is even cause of this. And the fact that Edreese thinks it is even.

 

[M@v]

I think marth ***** peach, but that could be just me, lol. I ****ing suck *** at that matchup.

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Peach is amazing, so much better then zss.

And I havnt seen mike recently but from what I saw his style was weird but effective.

 

[V]

I think marth ***** peach, but that could be just me, lol. I ****ing suck *** at that matchup.

Marth beats Peach but it's not like Marth vs Ness. 60-40 isn't ****. 75-25 is ****.

 

[Meru.]

The Peach players of the WC think that Marth Vs Peach is even. Which question me about their region. If MikeHaze and Hovak are beast with Marth as I hear people going on about, How the hell they come to this statement of the match up being even?

The Answer I usually here is "Fair, Fair out of shield, camp"

Marth is not having that BS and can deal with it. Really this typical use of Fairs. Idk, man, I gave up with these kids.

Wow really? I also agree with Peach vs Marth being even (or at least around even), but because of that... I don't even use Fair so much against Marth lol.

EDIT: I don't know about ZSS. I think she's a good, but on the other hand, I also think she's overrated for some reason. I think she should stay where she is

 

[M@v]

Marth beats Peach but it's not like Marth vs Ness. 60-40 isn't ****. 75-25 is ****.

It feels like it is for me sometimes, lol. **** Marth. The only person I have a really good record with vs him is MK.

With Falco I'm like an even win:loss record vs Marth.

Fox and Peach I get *****. lol

 

[Dark.Pch]

If you read my big post about Marth Vs Peach like 2 pages back or so, I went on about it from what Peach can do and what Marth can do. I broke it down. I don't see how you guys can think it is even.

Marth Can get away with Marth stuff than Peach can, and does not have to work so much for pressure and juggles. And thans to a sword with range and speed, it is also a problem. People can think this if they want. It's there opinion. But for me, There is no way this fight is even.

 

[mountain_tiger]

EDIT: I don't know about ZSS. I think she's a good, but on the other hand, I also think she's overrated for some reason. I think she should stay where she is

Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you there.

ZSS should rise AT LEAST three spots. She has good tourney results (especially considering she doesn't have that many reps at a high level) and decent top tier matchups. The only matchup that really gives her trouble is Falco, and even that's manageable provided you ban Final Destination. Apart from that, she doesn't have any matchups worse than 40:60, and apart from Diddy and (possibly) MK, she has hardly any worse than 45:55.

ZSS has far too much going for her to simply stay in place.

 

[Dark.Pch]

Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you there.

ZSS should rise AT LEAST three spots. She has good tourney results (especially considering she doesn't have that many reps at a high level) and decent top tier matchups. The only matchup that really gives her trouble is Falco, and even that's manageable provided you ban Final Destination. Apart from that, she doesn't have any matchups worse than 40:60, and apart from Diddy and (possibly) MK, she has hardly any worse than 45:55.

ZSS has far too much going for her to simply stay in place.

If you gonna put it that way, Peach should go up on the list. People over rating ZSS way too much. Seriously for a three spot boost. By this logic, Peach should rise and is indeed a beast in this game.

 

[zeldspazz]

I love ZSS. Just like Marth she doesnt destroy or get destroyed by many characters, overall her matchups are very safe. The only difference is that Marth's matchups get better as you go down the tier list, while ZSS stay relatively even, but still good enough. I think honestly tihnk she is close to a top ten character

 

[Angel.M <3 C:]

Definitely not top 10

 

[zeldspazz]

I think honestly tihnk she is close to a top ten character

Read carefully -.-

I think she should be 11-13 about.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

lol this thread

just play

This is the best post in the past three pages, Dark.Pch's Marth vs Peach post is almost as good though.

 

[M@v]

ZSS bad matchups? The Starfox team says hi, especially Falco.

Spoiler

I have no room to talk, last tourney I went to i got knocked out by a zss >_>. I know its really bad for ZSS because I never faced a good one before(It was sassy) and still almost won

 

[zeldspazz]

ZSS bad matchups? The Starfox team says hi, especially Falco.

Spoiler

I have no room to talk, last tourney I went to i got knocked out by a zss >_>. I know its really bad for ZSS because I never faced a good one before(It was sassy) and still almost won

I heard as long as you strike FD it isnt that bad, like 35-65 at worst.

She is advantage to even against Fox.

Idk much about Wolf.

 

[Meru.]

This is the best post in the past three pages, Dark.Pch's Marth vs Peach post is almost as good though.

Honestly, Funks post is pretty much one of the best of the thread.

Theory smash and discussing are both fine, but they can go too far.

 

[DMG]

You can never go too far in Smash Theory.

Especially not when it comes to SDI.

 

[AllyKnight]

I dont know how to fight Marth, all he does is jump and fair, one mistake and he can read me and gimp me to death!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Honestly, Funks post is pretty much one of the best of the thread.

Theory smash and discussing are both fine, but they can go too far.

10Iagrees.