Eh, you're missing the point(s). Mario is a very broad character, is he not? He doesn't represent a specific game when he is in a Smash Bros game, this is true. However with his FLUDD attack, that is pure evidence that Sakurai has started to show deeper interest in the games rather than keeping Mario as a representative of all his games. When you see the FLUDD attack, it is strictly derived from Super Mario Sunshine. Now with that said, why not have a secondary character represent a game rather than an "easter egg" if you'd like to call the FLUDD that? As far as I'm concerned, there isn't any representation of Super Mario RPG AT ALL in Brawl. Ok, so the frying pan may be the closest thing to representation but its still not solid evidence and even if it was, that isn't a great way to show appreciation for Super Mario RPG. So I guess in your opinion, all franchises should have one generic stage correct? Because representation of specific games is too much according to you.
It doesn't matter what you're concerned with in that, because he still does. It's still the same Mario. Heck, look at his Final Smash. The closest thing that comes to are his attacks in SMRPG. Heck, he has bouncing fireballs there, does he not? And with a generic stage, it kinda is better. Get's more represented y'know? Of course Sakurai doesn't always do that, which is clear here. (Though Mario Circuit is kinda like a generic Mario Kart stage). When picking stages though, it does seem a bit random, though they do need some significance. Still though, I don't see what the point of this specific point is.
Pieman, the reason why your posts don't sink in is because you're using your reasoning as proof. Nothing that you say is even remotely close to disproving Geno. Sure he has a lot of legal issues hindering him and hasn't appeared in too many games lately, but that isn't the point.
Now this doesn't make sense. You're disregarding facts and not taking them seriously. Heck, why are you going over his pros in full here while not talking about the cons? That's what you asked for. That's what you havn't given an explanation for. And the fact that he has all these legal issues, only had one real game of his own, the fact that he wasn't the star of that game, and also that it's been over 10 years since them are real pressing matters when dealing with Geno. These are facts.
Popularity - This is subjective, Pieman. Square Enix holds the complete rights to Geno, it isn't that he wasn't popular, sadly Geno just missed the boat. It was an unfortunate time in which he was created, otherwise he might have had his own game. Square broke away from Nintendoland and danced all the way over to Sony. Obviously there weren't really strong ties between the two companies, but Geno's popularity was never out of the question. At the time of Super Mario RPG he was ultra popular. Some of us still recognize this and thus people have requested him. What can I say? I mean, I didn't request him.. I would have though..
You're forgetting about Itadaki Street and that Mario basketball game. Both happened to be Mario and SE team ups featuring Mario. If Geno happened to be so popular, then why wasn't he there? Oh, I know that there was SMRPG music in ISDS, but no Geno. Heck, one problem you have in your argument is that you're making Geno and SMRPG one and the same. >_>
Yoko Shimomura - As much as you'd like to discredit this, you cannot. It actually aids Geno more than hurts him at this point. Until her work has been cited as something other than a Super Mario RPG track, it is certainly logical to assume that she did create a Super Mario RPG track. Don't argue this point Pieman, no matter what sort of reasoning you throw at me, you can't beat this one.
What? Now who's going on like their speculation is fact? There's a standard 50% chance that all musicians on the list are not going to be working on the soundtracks from their games. Outside of this, there's the possibility that they work on something original. Lastly it's impossible to tell what game Shimomura is representing, if she really is representing one of her own games. It could be SMRPG, but it could also be M&L (really the most likely is she works on her past projects) or KH, SF2, or many others. You can't logicially assume it will be any of these though, as it's over 50% likely that she's not working on any of her old stuff at all.
What validates Geno is the facts that A) third party characters are in brawl, B) he is from a very popular Mario RPG that needs representation and C) people like Geno, got a problem with that? Look at Falco, he was never a star of a game and look at Pichu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo. None of them were ever actually "stars" but rather really popular characters in their franchises. Geno can be considered to be a popular character in the Mario franchise and certainly the most hardcore too.
A) Third party characters so far have been superstars. Snake and Sonic are both well known, and bring in new fans to pull in the money that's given out for them. Geno is obscure, and only brings in Mario fans, most of who'd already get the game. B) It's got three characters already. You may want to cover your ears and shut your eyes, but it's still the fact of the matter. (And again you're making Geno and SMRPG one and the same, when they are not) C) Hardcore? Anyways, there's a difference between these characters and Geno. They are not third party, and they were not 10 years old at the time. You can't cite any precedense when concerning Geno, because none of the other characters have his other restrictions all at the same time.
As long as Sakurai likes Geno and Square Enix is all right with his inclusion (why wouldn't they be? Then again, they might not be) then what do you have to say about that? We want Geno, Pieman. We're the customers and we have a rather strong say in how this game is shaped. This isn't Miyamoto we're dealing with (he has said some pretty arrogant and stupid stuff in the past, I must say..). I have faith in Sakurai's decisions even though about 20% of them have failed in my opinion.
Sakurai may not like Geno. We don't know his stance on the guy. Like you said, SE's opinion is unknown. The consumer who would want Geno would want this game irregardless. Heck, when's the last time someone's bought a game just because Geno was in it? (Well I guess it would be possible to M&L, but that'd just be dumb) He's not worth it from a economic standpoint. He's not worth it from any real stand point. Only a fan's. This game caters to fans, but not on that level.
As a Geno fan, you should want Geno in Brawl even if he isn't logical in your eyes. So for your sake, you should hope he's in. But your posts contradict that..
You assume too much, and prescribe traits that aren't there. I'd love to see him in it, but for me it's clear he won't. So, I will go with what logic tells me, and if people make dumb or ignorant statements , I'll try to correct them. =/
the defense proves geno as a valid candidate for brawl 
