The OFFICIAL FL Brawl 2011 Power Rankings (Updated 8/26/11)

[VSC.D-Torr]

IIRC you said that he has a 2-0 record vs. you this season, which is a different season from that set.

You recalled wrong. I've only played Jeff twice in tourney ever and it was at the same tourney. I've never faced Jeff in tourney anywhere else. I put in that in there to show that even though I won one match against him really solidly, I've never beat him in tourney.

Again my post shows that approaching is possible. Not once did I say it was the end all be all for success.

 

[DFEAR]

yea thats my thumb? that perspective

 

[Sandtru27]

If ppl ask me tips on snake I tell them to do your own thing that or don't play him cause its too frustrating plain and simple, a lot of what I do rely on random dumb luck so how can I explain luck

if you're relying on luck to bring you wins then lol

how can you not see that as an unrefined (aka less than ideal aka bad) playstyle?

 

[MVD]

Have you seen me do well yes have you seen me win money yes its called taking risks I know would work I don't have to explain how I work to anyone lol cause we are all different and what works for me won't work for you

 

[MVD]

I do calculate what I do I do predict my.opponent while using my randomness all at the same.time and I am successful so what's the problem

 

[DFEAR]

all that matters is that mvd and i win.

 

[DewDaDash]

basically what mvd is trying to say is that he can't really spell out his options and move sets because he doesn't play a certain set style. Like you can theory craft and such and describe what moves would work in hypothetical situations, but in tourney situations, a lot of those things get thrown out and when things become tense, things that shouldn't work, will indeed work since avoiding a pattern and using moves that ur opponent usually wont expect often pay off huge since they will be thrown off. (Obviously doing this consistently is terrible and will make u lose, but using it sparingly will pay off).

MVD is pretty much just saying he knows oftentimes when are good times to pull off such moves and such, its not something u can just teach very easily, it comes off from years of predicting and seeing usual patterns. Example: ryos random f-smashes that somehow work rofl.

 

[1337pengwin]

Hey everybody,

I'll introduce myself briefly: I used to play lots of Melee, been lurking here since 2005, less into Smash these days, but still love the game. I used to host gaming events of all kinds twice a month at the Florida Atlantic University Jupiter Campus and always had a lot of success and a lot of fun with decent turnouts (15-20 on average, 40-50 for end of the year tournaments). I know how to advertise properly, how to overcome the reasons why people don't attend gaming events, and how to run tournaments and gaming get-togethers. I'm 22 now, have a real job, and can fund something that has been my passion for years: gaming events.

I am trying to gauge what the Smash Brawl and Melee communities are like in Palm Beach County (WPB, Wellington, Greenacres, Lantana, Lake Worth, Boynton Beach, Delray, Boca Raton, Palm Beach Gardens, Tequesta, Jupiter, and the surrounding cities I ddin't mention). I am trying to get some community building events going for fighting games and whatever else I find is popular in the region. The only big name in the northern SEFL region for competitive fighting games is Willvolution, but they aren't too huge, they don't respect Smash anymore, and the events are few and far between. I am trying to gauge the SEFL SSF4 AE, MvC3, and Smash communities in particular, so you may see a post similar to this one on other websites (shoryuken, willvolution, eventhubs, allisbrawl, etc).

Basically I'm looking for active SEFL Smash players to tell me a little more about the community, what you all like, and what locations are most convenient. I'm not just looking to run tournaments. I'm looking to actually build and expand communities. Too many tournaments have I been to where half the crowd leaves without speaking to the host (or anyone else for that matter). It's why they don't come back. Smashfests have always been awesome because it's a mix of tournament and hanging out, so what I'm trying to do is bring that same kind of environment to Palm Beach County with multiple games. Tournaments don't build communities. I want gamers who have a passion for their game/games coming together to have fun, swap gamertags, and make new friends and rivals.

In fact, I'm not just interested in getting gamers who play fighting games together. It just happens to be my favorite game genre and the one I am most familiar with. If any of you know of others or you yourself would be interested in seeing a stronger community in console FPS, competitive speedruns, Mario Kart, or something else, feel free to let me know!

Thanks guys, I look forward to your feedback. I want to make this happen.

 

[DJ Arcatek]

Heya dude. Nice to meet ya! As far as I'm concerned, the SFL brawl scene is kinda... dying out, and only a few SFL players play Marvel :\ Most of the tournaments we attend are usually held at Zero Ping LAN center, off of State Road 7 in Hollywood. Not sure if it's still open....


Very legit post, though. I'll support whatever tournaments/events you'll hold in the future.

 

[DFEAR]

few sfl? we have one of the biggest sfl scenes for marvel man. we have zp marvel and final round marvel of over 30+ ppl

 

[DJ Arcatek]

Oh tru tru. I wouldn't know, I don't play Marvel lol

 

[MVD]

What dew da dash said... Besides ask anyone what I'm doing they will say Idk MVD ****

 

[Exdeath]

You recalled wrong. I've only played Jeff twice in tourney ever and it was at the same tourney. I've never faced Jeff in tourney anywhere else. I put in that in there to show that even though I won one match against him really solidly, I've never beat him in tourney.

Again my post shows that approaching is possible. Not once did I say it was the end all be all for success.

I could have sworn that you lost to him at a different tournament, but you would know better than me. Sorry.

 

[Two-Ell]

@1337

For a location you might want to try a place within mid-north Broward. I know scattered groups of players within Palm Beach(aside from Tommy, Afro and Xaltis) and Broward that would really appreciate having a closer venue than ZP(which is all the way down in North Dade/South Broward).

I'm not going to lie that there might be a reason to the lack of Smash events at tournaments for Traditional fighters. Tournament Organizer seem to dislike running smash simultaneously with other games. FL smashers are learning to embrace traditional fighting titles so maybe you could find a means to make it work well.

DJ is right in that the smash community for both games are waning as time goes by. SFL Brawl just lost it's primary host(attends an out of state university). SFL Melee lacks a regular tournament event, but they still meet whenever they can at our primary venue Zero Ping(across the street from the Hard Rock Casino).

SFL smash for the most part is filled with an interesting group of people. I can remember many stories of how much fun new people have after attending their first event(of course there's the occasional 'never see them again' again player). We just need a dedicated organizer and an accessible(to make traveling easier on Central FL players) clean(The ZP venue is kept in poor condition) venue.

One important thing to note on setting up a venue for smash events is you will need CRT TVs. That's a must(Wii/GCN lag on LCDs). Zero Ping almost went out of business recently due to an unfortunate incident and venue hunting would've been very difficult with the lack of tube TVs at venues nowadays.

 

[B_AWAL]

Got damn...

New PR thread

 

[DJ Arcatek]

I just realized on the PR........



There's no way of knowing who's "new" on the list or who moved up or who moved down from the previous list. Just thought it was funny.

 

[DRN]

I just realized on the PR........



There's no way of knowing who's "new" on the list or who moved up or who moved down from the previous list. Just thought it was funny.

U can always look at the past PR's under it ;D

Awal do u still have my Mega64 hoodie?

 

[1337pengwin]

Ok a few things I've got for you guys:

Firstly, can I maybe get a list of where everybody is? I would really prefer to host events no further south than Boca, but I'm willing to stretch if I have to because I really want to see this happen. The reason is that for these events I will bring the setups so that nobody else has to.

Originally I was thinking of two locations in the WPB/Wellington area, but if that is getting too far north for you guys, then it is a no-go. There just isn't a solid arcade/lan center up this way that can host a community so I was looking to make it happen by hauling what we need to places. I'm sure there are players up this way, but without a dedicated building, it means you need to have someone who is willing to put in the work to host regular get-togethers (that's where I come in). What I am going to start doing next is contacting FAU in Boca to see what their policy is on events. Fortunately, my fiancee is a student there, so I do have an in for getting up posters and spreading the word. I feel like there are probably a lot of unknown gamers inside FAU, so I want to make them aware, get them on the forums, and hopefully spread out from there. I will most likely try to host an event there just to gather information (see how many show up, what games they want to see, where they can travel, etc).

As I said, I'm interested in community-building. I only came to know of smashboards and competitive communities in mid-2005 when I heard a guy at a Gamer's Asylum Melee tournament in Gainesville, FL talking about it. It sparked an interest and I was hooked. Been playing games competitively ever since. Somebody needs to be that guy to other gamers. I hope we can all do that. It's easy to get comfortable with the friends you have and go to random events, but new players are what keep a community alive for new players to come into and so veterans want to stick around.

Two-Ell, you mentioned that Brawl and Melee are kind of struggling. Do players want to see that change? Sometimes games fall off for other reasons than the host leaving. Which are you guys more interested in? Honestly, Melee was my first love, but to me, I am more interested in being the best host I can be, not so much a player. If the demand for any Smash is there (and if anyone can prove it to me, it would be this forum), I am more than willing to make it the central push of what I'm trying to do, but let me know if the traditional fighting games are more where you guys are heading. Also, is it only Marvel that's got more than 20 active players? If there are other games, please let me know. Shoryuken and probably willvolution are the next places I'm inquiring, but I don't want to step on anybody's toes there.

Also, what are everybody's thoughts on tournaments? Would you rather get together and just play, play in a free-to-enter tournament, or play in a pay-to-play tournament? One of the greatest disincentives for players when considering to go to a gaming event is money. Not sure where everybody here stands on that subject. Another big disincentive is lack of connection. By that I mean not feeling attached to anyone in the community. It's easy to decide to stay home if no one is expecting you (or you don't want to see people who will just ignore you). A lot of times tournaments can cause this because it's less amiable than something like a smashfest.

I cannot tell you how important all of your feedback is to me, so keep it coming. I want to hear what you want, pair it with my ideals about what a community needs to sustain itself, and then give you what you wanted plus much more.

 

[Two-Ell]

South Palm Beach county can work as well since there's a good amount of drivers in the SFL smash community. FAU area would be an amazing(at least imo) location for events if you can manage that.

As for your other question. I do believe that players would be interested in working with you. Now you posted this question in a Brawl thread so the majority of people you find here will be primarily interested in Brawl, but there are a few of us here(including myself) that play/dabble in Melee. The Melee community I can't surely say what their situation is. I frequent their thread often. They're enthusiastic about wanting to grow their community and meet regularly to play the game. I believe they just lack motivation and organization. They organized a tournament back in April that garnered around fifty entrants. That says to me that the potential is there. They just need the right support.

As for other fighters, in South FL Smash there's a growing interested in other games. After CEO2011 I like to believe that there are some of us interested in other fighting titles. Another game that's very popular down here(not a fighter though lol) if you're interested in a LAN center venue is League of Legends(which can be very helpful in drawing business). I don't personally play, but it's really grown on the community here.

Now that last paragraph is an interesting question. I can say for sure that people do want to attend pay-to-play events. At the same time I believe low cost events would be a huge incentive for players who dont place in the money. Typical costs for events down here in the past would be $5 venue fee, $10 Singles and $20 Doubles($10 each player). Now depending on who you ask you'll get a different answer on how to approach fees. Money making players obviously prefer $10 while randoms prefer something like $5. It's going to be up to you to work out the best fares; although I like to belive that money making players would be willing to make a little less if it means a consistent and growing community. I can't really speak for others though, so I'll let them post their opinions. I like to believe setting up free/low-cost fests(with pools or swiss brackets) in addition to tournaments would be a nice idea. What might be a bit difficult though is most of SFL Smash is concentrated around Mid Broward-North Dade so attendance for things outside of tournaments might be a bit tough. There are populations of players north of mid Broward and in Palm Beach for both games so I could be wrong. Tournaments with pools would also be a great incentive as it makes the most out money people pay(You just need to be mindful of time as brawl sets can run much longer than melee sets.)

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I just realized on the PR........



There's no way of knowing who's "new" on the list or who moved up or who moved down from the previous list. Just thought it was funny.

I asked Raven if he thought i should
he said nah.

 

[DJ Arcatek]

It would be hype to have like a Brawl/MvC3/AE tournament, because there are a looot of people that I know who like to play Marvel and Street Fighter too along with Brawl. It would be nice if you could have these events a little more south from Boca because I and about 2 other smashers live in South Miami, so getting to venues up north take us about an hour, but it's up to you mate. I don't mind a bit of travelling

 

[AfroQT]

Bro i live right next to Dwyer High School. I live right in Palm Beach Gardens.

And honestly if theres a spot where people get together to play fighters thats near me i'll go. I wish there was more tournaments near me haha.

Theres an FAU Campus right next to me, pretty much on Donald Ross road. Have you checked there? Also theres a Lan Center near the Wal Mart on..Indiantown Road i think... I can show you if you havent seen. Hit me up.

 

[1337pengwin]

Thanks again for the info Two-Ell, I really appreciate it. Like I said, just trying to hear people's opinions and what they are looking for, so thanks for a detailed response.

AfroQT, I'm not sure if you read my first post, but that FAU campus is the Jupiter FAU Honors College. I used to be the president of the video game club there and hosted many successful on-site events there (Graduated in 2010). It's actually an amazing place to have events because it's spacious, clean, comfortable, and really easy to set-up in. I'm not sure if I could use their facilities for non-school events, but it would be awesome if I could. (I could also try to contact some of the guys I left the video game club to just to see if they could get me the space and it would be counted as a school event).

And I did not know there was a LAN center up that way! Give me the name, address and/or phone number and I may go check it out this weekend.

Have to get ready for work now, but I will post again later.

In the meantime, keep hitting me up with your game preferences and region info (how many players of each game, best locations, etc).

 

[Sandtru27]

Have you seen me do well yes have you seen me win money yes its called taking risks I know would work I don't have to explain how I work to anyone lol cause we are all different and what works for me won't work for you

Are you placing 1st every single time with very clean 2-0's/3-0's? No.

My entire point was that players should be able to fully comprehend their actions and breakdown their playstyle/habits to a simple form (for your own personal analysis/critique of yourself.... as well as breaking down others). If they cannot do that then they should work towards that and strive for an ever more refined style as an ideal. To do anything else is a rather lazy take at practice/improvement.

basically what mvd is trying to say is that he can't really spell out his options and move sets because he doesn't play a certain set style. Like you can theory craft and such and describe what moves would work in hypothetical situations, but in tourney situations, a lot of those things get thrown out and when things become tense, things that shouldn't work, will indeed work since avoiding a pattern and using moves that ur opponent usually wont expect often pay off huge since they will be thrown off. (Obviously doing this consistently is terrible and will make u lose, but using it sparingly will pay off).

MVD is pretty much just saying he knows oftentimes when are good times to pull off such moves and such, its not something u can just teach very easily, it comes off from years of predicting and seeing usual patterns. Example: ryos random f-smashes that somehow work rofl.

No ****. There's a diff. b/w playing to NOT lose and playing to win. If you only play to not lose (aka minimizing risk to as close to zero as possible) you'll never win anything of importance but at least your games will always look solid/sound.

If you're playing to win you're going to have to take a few calculated risks and cut corners. Sometimes it'll look awful and sometimes you'll look like the smartest mother****er in the building.

Doing things at "random" and not understanding the reasoning behind doing that action is never ideal tho.

 

[MVD]

***** do you see who I lose to? Only the best ppl against snake in the country like wtf brah I do things when I want and it works if you don't like that or can't comprehend that too bad for you

 

[Masky]

..........

 

[Sandtru27]

***** do you see who I lose to? Only the best ppl against snake in the country like wtf brah I do things when I want and it works if you don't like that or can't comprehend that too bad for you

lol how is this even considered a legitimate rebuttal?

things don't just "work" if you lose to certain people

idk why you're mad when it's very clear that you would need to adjust/refine your play to further improve yourself as a player

and if you don't work to make those adjustments/refinements then you're either lazy or content

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btw, max.... i'm on your status now

internet is all ****ed...... feelin like i'm in the 3rd world ova 'ere

 

[DFEAR]

i understand gmoney so well right now. snakes dont need to adapt rofl.

 

[MVD]

There isn't much I can do to adapt to seibrik and esam lol I'm not perfect and I make mistakes and may lose cause of it Idk what the issue is

 

[Exdeath]

There isn't much I can do to adapt to seibrik and esam lol I'm not perfect and I make mistakes and may lose cause of it Idk what the issue is

That is G's point.

 

[MVD]

His point is I don't try to get better and i do but sorry that they do too

 

[Exdeath]

His point is I don't try to get better and i do but sorry that they do too

That wasn't his point.

 

[MVD]

Then what is it

 

[2-DJeff]

you have to work harder than them. thats if u want to beat them. if you dont then thats cool to. its a video game

 

[DJ Arcatek]

I don't wanna be part of this or anything, but his point is that your playstyle pretty much relies on luck and chance, so that's the reason your playstyle is flawed. Oh, and that you apparently do random stuff without even knowing the reason behind doing said action.


I think your playstyle is fine though lol, but das just me.

 

[MVD]

I mean I Try to get better but they are my training partners lol I have gotten used to how I play and it works for me I get that its unconventional and all but I do my best to get better than them.but its hard I think of new strategies day in and day out

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

MVD, why didn't the snakes invite you to the BBR MU thingy?

 

[MVD]

They hate me I guess you know oos does not gimme credit

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

How do I change my name/title?

 

[GDX]

Send a pm to someone...their name is on the page you buy the membership