The OFFICIAL Dtilt Spike Topic

[sasook]

Topic.

Discuss.

 

[Finns7]

Link is broken.

 

[NintenJoe]

wow... just when we thought his spike was dead, this happens. Kudos to you sasook

 

[Legan]

OMGWTFBBQ! Very nice find sir. Not a bad link either.

 

[ArdeS]

I'm gonna test this tommorow myself. Good find!! =]

 

[Ich Bin Awesome]

Ok, don't know if it's known already..... with my story.

Nice find. So what is the best and I guess most common way to use this spike? The way it happens in your video is not a very likely situation. How has this move worked out with most of your matches?

 

[Looticforgothispassword]

Does it matter what the opponent uses to get up from ledge?(its hard to test against CPU)Nice find however.
And are we ever going to stop discover new (edgeguard) things with link?

@Finns7: Link is not anywhere close to broken (yet... but after we have found all of the 432 AT:s that is link exclusive, he is broken...)

 

[Izaw]

Say WHHHAAT XD! omg great discovery. I luv you, will try this out right now o.O.

By the way.. wow :/ wierd.. facing the wrong way makes it spike... WTF was Sakurai smoking o.O?

 

[Onomanic]

Whoa! O_o
That's crazy amazing.
This looks extremely awesome.
A good way to approach the ledge effectively (I'm gonna guess) is to roll backwards! XD
Nice find.

 

[KillaFrmNY]

Link will never be considered broken. And great find man

 

[Matt07]

'Yay' for me being the...'subject' to get spiked by it? Wow but seriously this is an awesome find Sasook.

 

[Twilght Link]

Great find sasook! Now my link can pwn some more woot! Btw do you guys recognize me from sbr you know Twilight Link?( i forgot an "i" in Twilight when i made this account XD

 

[Bouse]

Say WHHHAAT XD! omg great discovery. I luv you, will try this out right now o.O.

By the way.. wow :/ wierd.. facing the wrong way makes it spike... WTF was Sakurai smoking o.O?

It's a shorter list to ask what drugs he wasn't on when he designed the game.

 

[sasook]

edited......

 

[Aurashade]

OMGWTFBBQ!

epic win to this man and anyone who has the pyro updates for tf2


godly it really is

 

[Deleted member]

it does the same thing if you face forward lol...

the reason why it does this is because they get hit with the spike hitbox, which i think is on the tip of his sword, and inside his body.

 

[L_Cancel]

Awesome job sasook. =D

I'm glad you posted your discovery here.

 

[Finns7]

I practiced this a while back. I still have not found a way to use it in my game effectively. It works facing forward too...Its like a t bag spike when facing forward.

 

[Onomanic]

lol Link has so many AT's and tricks. That's just one up more tricks Link has.

 

[sasook]

I practiced this a while back. I still have not found a way to use it in my game effectively. It works facing forward too...Its like a t bag spike when facing forward.

Every time I try it facing forward, the opponent goes upwards. At least this way they always go down.

it does the same thing if you face forward lol...

the reason why it does this is because they get hit with the spike hitbox, which i think is on the tip of his sword, and inside his body.

Yes, the hitbox is in his body. But if I face forward and try to hit the tip of the sword, they go upwards. If you have some more info on this, please post.

 

[Finns7]

I practiced this and they went down...idk the move has a wierd hitbox anyway.

 

[Bouse]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/basic/basic10.html

Shows where the hitbox is.

 

[sasook]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/basic/basic10.html

Shows where the hitbox is.

Interesting, he's not standing at the very edge, rather a step or two back. And it seems like it's 2/3 lengths of his sword. Weird, I'll try and see if I can find anything out.

 

[mariofanpm12]

Wow, nice discovery! I'm gonna start using Link again maybe...

 

[LinkSpecialist]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/basic/basic10.html

Shows where the hitbox is.

Even with that in place, what are the chances of Link hitting someone before they grab the ledge.

 

[Ademar440]

"Some of Link’s strong down attacks will cause an opponent to fall as well."

I think Sakurai means the spike is random

 

[PK-ow!]

Does it matter what the opponent uses to get up from ledge?(its hard to test against CPU)Nice find however.
And are we ever going to stop discover new (edgeguard) things with link?

@Finns7: Link is not anywhere close to broken (yet... but after we have found all of the 432 AT:s that is link exclusive, he is broken...)

It's been discovered on the Ness forums that for every form of ledge recovery, there is a moment where the invincibility is out yet there is not any stage beneath you.

So, a spike with the right hitbox can get someone if your timing is good.

Ness' dair can do it, and it appears Link's dtilt can too.

 

[linkvalen]

O_o ?!?!?!?!?!?!? wow man congrats i salute you, this is an awesome find.

 

[Neon304]

Well sasook, it seems I have something new to watch out for, this backwards ledge spike thing could be used with the right mind games, but now I know not to fall for it. I wonder if other characters have similar edge spikes that work backwards. Either way, useful or not, interesting find.

 

[Natolis]

nice discovery i give my props to u

 

[i.E.]

Awesome find....thanks for posting this.

*wonders if other characters have something similar to this*

 

[Blubba_Pinecone]

o.o Wow... I'mma start trying to use this lol.

*gives Sasook a large cookie*

You've earned that.

 

[Jink]

sasook: GOOD JOB TROOPER!

You caught'em on spot, the same I'll apply

 

[HeroMystic]

I saw this on the Mario boards and I haven't really noticed it till now. I know how I'll be edge-guarding with Link now.

Awesome Link btw.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Wait, what do you mean you discovered this? Wasn't this common knowledge? Link's D-tilt is ALWAYS a spike in Brawl. On the ground your opponent has nowhere to go but up, making it the only occasion where it doesn't spike.

It's just that you'll never actually ledgeguard with it since it's much too situational.

I don't see where the hype is coming from.

 

[L_Cancel]

Wait, what do you mean you discovered this? Wasn't this common knowledge? Link's D-tilt is ALWAYS a spike in Brawl. On the ground your opponent has nowhere to go but up, making it the only occasion where it doesn't spike.

It's just that you'll never actually ledgeguard with it since it's much too situational.

I don't see where the hype is coming from.

No, it always spiked in melee. This is not the case with brawl.

Go test it in brawl with a 2nd person. Have someone ledge jump and you face forward, you will still hit them up. Now turn around and try, and it will spike him. The spiking hitbox is inside Link, rather than on the entire sword.

 

[Metro Knight]

This is pretty amazing, I can't wait to do that to my brother this weekend, he will be like wtfpwnage, that is almost as amazing as getting a Luigi dtaunt off, haha.

 

[sasook]

well, I'm back from vacation. And wow, thanks everybody! I didn't think I'd get this much praise!

Anyways, question: Even though I learned of this backwards spike, anyone know how to do the forward version? Like on a consistent basis?

 

[Deleted member]

hit with the tip of the sword while theyre bellow the stage

 

[eskimo bob]

amazing timing. I just picked up Link since I've had tons of fun with on random (and the occasional pick here and there) and got decent with him after watching Izaw's vid (thank you, my fellow swede. ^_^) and as soon as I get on the Link boards this is discovered a few days earlier? my timing is way too good lol. good stuff, man. hats off and all such jazz.

although this makes my head hurt. a teenage boy with a sword coming from above right into your forehead doesn't send you downwards, but his feet touching you when he's slashing his sword across the floor that is far away from you does? ugh, migraine. >_<