The Official BBR Tier List v4 -> Sonic's HA Stall is NOT beaten by spot dodge!!!!!!!!

[Albert.]

Why are we still talking about this bulls*** gay topic?

Look isn't there something in most rule-sets where the TO has the discretion to just DQ sonic players like this? screw all this competitive bull****. You do this in tourney, f*** you. LOL

I'm sorry but this thread is TheoryBrosBoards to the extreme right now.

Is there an epidemic of Sonic hover attack plankers sweeping the nation's tourney scene? I might be ignorant but I have not heard of this really being an issue, EVER.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Why are you complaining about this bulls*** gay topic?

 

[da K.I.D.]

I want to see a match in which right when the game begins, Sonic just runs off the stage and does the HA stall for 8 minutes.

I try to get vids of me doing this this weekend.

You need a game where he has a stock lead, then runs off the stage and does it for whatever's left.

I plan on it, but since everyone good around here recently resorted to MK, its going to be hard to actually get a chance to do it.

Also, implying that a tactic should be banned in certain matchups but not in others is a ridiculously surgical idea that is just flat out silly. I won't even get into how impossible it would be to actually implement because there's no point in even going that far, as it's blatantly ridiculous to even think about implementing something so surgical and arbitrary.

super truth.

get owned abd

 

[Albert.]

Why are you complaining about this bulls*** gay topic?

because

I

wanted

to

?

Idunno what you mean, but my rationale seemed to me to be QUITE obvious and clear.

 

[DarkRaptor]

If only Falcon would go even higher...

 

[Z'zgashi]

because

I

wanted

to

?

Idunno what you mean, but my rationale seemed to me to be QUITE obvious and clear.

umad obv.

 

[Goldenadept]

hopefully wolf will drop to E tier finally.
someone out there needs to finally listen to the wolf mains

 

[MetalMusicMan]

Is there an epidemic of Sonic hover attack plankers sweeping the nation's tourney scene? I might be ignorant but I have not heard of this really being an issue, EVER.

Nope. That's why I don't really understand how this became such a relatively "heated topic".

I certainly understand the concern, but I don't think I've EVER seen it become an issue in a real match... given that, it seems kind of silly to spend so much time talking about it to me.

 

[GimR]

Not to call you out MMM(I agree with a lot of what you're saying) but I think you use Arbitrary wrongly, a bit much

Definition:

Based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.


I don't think what he's saying falls under that definition. Just saying

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

I think the problem is that no one has ever wanted to risk using it incase it gets them DQ'ed from a tourney

I guess most people automatically assume it is stalling and don't bother trying to use it to time out matches

It needs to be tried out in matches like the stages that were originally banned to see whether its broken or not

 

[MetalMusicMan]

You aren't calling me out on anything. Based on your definition of the world there and every other correct definition, I'm using it perfectly. I don't understand what would make you think that I'm not.

"Based on individual discretion or judgment; not based on any objective distinction, perhaps even made at random; Determined by impulse rather than reason..." etc. etc. etc.

 

[phi1ny3]

lol what does sonic have that's actually worth banning?

final smash

10imbeingdumbs

 

[Z'zgashi]

Side Taunt

 

[Albert.]

Crouch as DDD

 

[Espy Rose]

I think the problem is that no one has ever wanted to risk using it incase it gets them DQ'ed from a tourney

I guess most people automatically assume it is stalling and don't bother trying to use it to time out matches

It needs to be tried out in matches like the stages that were originally banned to see whether its broken or not

This.

The stigma around HA Abuse is too great, even now.
Despite that there are very compelling arguments for having the tech as legal, most people will turn the other cheek despite having very weak backings to their argument. I wouldn't be surprised if I got DQ'd from the next Texas tournament I went to because I used this tactic, even if I used the arguments that have been presented here, just because "it's gay".

You can't ban Sonic's HA Stall without banning tactics of similar natures (ledge camping with MK/G&W/Pit/ROB/etcetc), and you can't ban those (or Sonic's HA abuse) because they'd be arbitrary, unwarranted, unjustified surgical changes.

There's no problem with legalizing it, since it does not fall under the definition of "stalling", it doesn't over centralize, and it doesn't hinder the game from being playable.

Pick a better character, or lose. Choice is yours, really.

 

[Meru.]

If only Falcon would go even higher...

The only direction he should go is DOWN.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I'd lol if a sonic tried to HA under the stage against ganon, but ganon jumped under and dark dive stage spiked sonic then by some terrific (of terrible) coincident, made it back on stage with another dark dive :D

 

[Poltergust]

Browny: <333~ The next thing on our list is showing everyone how to tech Sonic's dthrow.
Only ONE PERSON does it to me down here in Texas.

WHY?

Would that be me? I know we haven't played much yet, but I think I did that a few times when we did fight.

I was really angry at SCQ because you kept on doing it to other people and NO ONE was teching it. >_<

 

[Z'zgashi]

I know how :D

 

[Poltergust]

It's not like it isn't common knowledge.

...Except to the people in Texas, apparently. >.>

 

[Z'zgashi]

Well when your scene is dominated by the best sonic ever, it's kinda hard not to know how

 

[Espy Rose]

Shows how good Texas is, I guess.

 

[Poltergust]

And me with like no Sonic experience.

...So, is that tier list coming out today? If I remember correctly, the 48 hours is almost up.

 

[Espy Rose]

Texas doesn't have a Yoshi.
Bwett quit him like, ages ago.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Espy... Polt IS in Texas now >.>

 

[Poltergust]

Texas doesn't have a Yoshi.
Bwett quit him like, ages ago.

I... I can live up to his legacy! Watch me! >=)

EDIT: Quiet, Z'zgashi. We're having a Texan moment here.

 

[DMG]

Texas related with a bit of Salt sprinkled in

As for HA, we will see... we will see

 

[Jebu-95]

omg just release the tier list already. Whats with the waiting anyway when you already have the list completed?

 

[Xyro77]

I wanna do HA Abuse myself in tournament, but I'm not gonna risk it with nuts like Xyro running around down here.

deal with it

 

[Teh Future]

^u mad??

also dunno why next list hasnt been released. with no lgl the tire list is obviously

S: MK

unviable: everything that has ever existed

 

[HeroMystic]

Shows how good Texas is, I guess.

I'd make it better if college wasn't kicking me in the nuts.

 

[Espy Rose]

If I didn't want to deal with it, I'd ***** about it, Xyro.
Deal with it.

@Hero-Mystic: I **** college on a daily basis. What're you doing, and why don't you partake in the tasty San Antonio scene?

 

[HeroMystic]

@Hero-Mystic: I **** college on a daily basis. What're you doing, and why don't you partake in the tasty San Antonio scene?

Psychology Professor demands that I read a chapter per week and each chapter is pretty much 40-50 pages long, though it's so boring that I constantly fall asleep.

Composition II wants me to read MORE books, though they're more enjoyable, but then I gotta write papers on them.

Intermediate Algebra I don't whine over. I **** it.

Real reason why I don't go to tournaments though is because my parents think you're all rapists, and I don't have my own money at the moment

Spoiler

because college took it all

.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Sooo...new tier list

This is a metaphor for the angry people who don't get their tier list
D:
Where's your Ocarina or Fierce Deity Mask ahhmmm BBR?
Actually, no Ocarina's, I cba waiting another 3 days


Can you actually do anything if you tech Sonic's D Throw striaght away?

 

[Xebenkeck]

wow Heromystic best sig ever

also just chill guys surely the tier list isn't the most important aspect of your lives that you have to ***** about how its not out

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Lol I don't care that its not out, I just felt liking making a MM reference D:

*****ing about Homing Attack is all the rage nowadays anyway

 

[ShadowLink84]

I dont recall ever debating with Adumbrodeus in regards to planking. O_o

 

[vVv Rapture]

also just chill guys surely the tier list isn't the most important aspect of your lives that you have to ***** about how its not out

You are clearly misinformed about the people of Smashboards.

 

[milesg2g]

Lol dam they still haven't dropped this thing yet?

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Technically, they still have 3 1/2 hours IIRC.

I hope they are delaying due to fixing where Fox is.