Because he doesn't know anything at all about Dedede. Dedede is perfectly capable of doing a D-Throw -> pivot grab on those walls, bombs or not.
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The Official BBR Tier List v4 -> Sonic's HA Stall is NOT beaten by spot dodge!!!!!!!!
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Hi guys!
I don't think it's Ice climbers' chaingrab persay as it is the character in general. I remember god-is-my-rock saying IC's were a direct counter to Pokemon Trainer, then getting ***** in an MM against Reflex :x. While people can learn the chaingrabs, can they learn grab setups, can they handle people having mental capacity to fear the chaingrab and stay away from IC's for as long as possible (read: camping)
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
With D3's grab range, the setups just get that much easier
Coney
Smash Master
anyone that says ddd is an auto-win on DK (without the infinite or small step) is a moron
just saying
mikehaze is a smart player, he picked ddd BECAUSE he was going to green greens. do you honestly think he would've beaten ook with ddd had they gone to, say, battlefield?
if so, you're wrong.
just saying
mikehaze is a smart player, he picked ddd BECAUSE he was going to green greens. do you honestly think he would've beaten ook with ddd had they gone to, say, battlefield?
if so, you're wrong.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
OOK ***** Haze should feel bad. Shoulda stayed Marth.
Col. Stauffenberg
Smash Lord
I think everyone who says that is thinking infinite allowed.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
^This. It is the truth.
Fixed.
Haze lost round 1 as Marth and won round 2 as MK.
Blacknight99923
Smash Champion
I wonder if almost legendary actually watched the match...... Most of the match OoK was camping so he wouldn't get grabbed. in all honesty the stage could have actually HELPED OoK because its really hard to approach on it, and provided you aren't grabed facing a wall on the side platforms, its not that hard to not get wall infinited even if you are grabbed
that being said people are going to start timing peopel out on that stage like mofos........
<3that conservative stage list for a reason
that being said people are going to start timing peopel out on that stage like mofos........
<3that conservative stage list for a reason
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I really want to see this match now, is there a link?
Javon89
Smash Ace
and the horizontal blastbox for easy kills, I don't like apples either. This could be brinstar for D3. EDIT* with infinites
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
If only you could SDI the grab, that would be amazing
Javon89
Smash Ace
ikr? But wouldn't D3 follow the DI especially with that great grab range
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
well yes, but then he'd have to predict where you're going with it
Javon89
Smash Ace
Yea so in a way it doesn't make some matchups terribly hard
Coney
Smash Master
that's cool, and correct then, i just hear from a lot of people that dk/ddd is impossible for dk no matter the circumstances, which is far from true
Dark 3nergy
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Any character that can be Chain grabbed can be wall infinited.
they are as follows
The unchainable 12 cannot be.Vayseth said:
they are;
sourceVayseth said:
Limeee
Smash Champion
i've been playing this game for about a year now, and i still don't understand why pit is so low.
i just looked at their match up thread, and he goes even with alot of the top tiers (besides MK and marth anyways)
why is he so low?
is it because of no player rep?
ledge grabs?
or is there something i'm missing...
i just looked at their match up thread, and he goes even with alot of the top tiers (besides MK and marth anyways)
why is he so low?
is it because of no player rep?
ledge grabs?
or is there something i'm missing...
The Nameless Wanderer
Smash Lord
Mostly bad tourney rep.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
yah most people believe pit has good potential but nobody's stepped it up
Coney
Smash Master
everyone thinks pit is good
no one can/wants to prove it
no one can/wants to prove it
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
We're at a point in the game now where no one wants to try new characters when they can just pick Meta Knight.
Limeee
Smash Champion
metaknight da bess
metaknight da bess
pit is mad
metaknight da bess
pit is mad
And this is why the metagame for alot of low tier/no show characters will remain going at a sluggish/never moving pace.
Or in this case, Pit
I wanna see Pit do well but idk really since I haven't seen any really good ones lately =/
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
I have never seen a fighting game before where the meta game for some characters is just non-existent like it is in Brawl. I don't really blame Meta Knight for that as much as I blame the community's lust for victory and the easiest path to that.
Javon89
Smash Ace
As the saying goes, can't beat 'em, join 'em. Mario is madd
stingers
Smash Obsessed
wow there isn't a single character with a non-existent metagame. this is the most ignorant thing I've ever seen you say and you say a lot of ******* ****.
Technodeath
Smash Champion
oops my mistake =P idk where my head was.
i need more sleep
Edit: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW i really cannot believe i said that T__T i feel stupid
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
There are plenty of characters with ludicrously primitive or slow-moving metagames; I didn't literally mean non-existent and you know it. Pit? Olimar? Lucas? Please don't say stupid ****.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
I don't know how you define primitive meta-game. Though I can guarantee you that you certainly can't play any character at the top of their meta game so I don't think you're really fit to define such a thing in the first place.
The more I play the more I think less of MK and less of the community's skill level overall. If FL's ness and ZSS and pika's are consistently beating top players, top MKs doesn't that mean we as a community need to stop making excuses and step up you know?
Character is important don't get me wrong... but the player is always what is going to matter most.
Character is important don't get me wrong... but the player is always what is going to matter most.
Col. Stauffenberg
Smash Lord
Personally, I've always thought it kind of silly to use your character as an excuse if there's someone better with them. (And unless you're one of a very select few, there definitely is)
o-Serin-o
I think 56 nights crazy
Waaaay off-topic, but:
I just noticed that ^^^ is Stauffy.
I just noticed that ^^^ is Stauffy.
Col. Stauffenberg
Smash Lord
At your service?
there is nothing I hate more than when people site my losses to my choice of character...
"Aww... you lost because you were jigglypuff if you-"
"No! I lost because I didn't play well enough."
"Aww... you lost because you were jigglypuff if you-"
"No! I lost because I didn't play well enough."
Browny
Smash Hater
Does this argument apply to Ganondorf?
I think so... yeah. Gdorf is WAY~ better than people think. mine isn't amazing but in the hands of someone who understands his moveset... a few good reads and baits can lead to a stock.
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