The Nintendo "Off My Chest" thread (BE CIVIL)

[Perkilator]

I know original Ice Climber on the NES may not have been a great game, but that doesn't make the idea that the Ice Climbers shouldn't have been in Melee any less heartbreaking. It's one thing to only want the obvious picks without letting them coexist with the more inventive choices, but in the Ice Climbers' case, it's especially disappointing to see people treat them like a black sheep when they only ever had one game decades ago.

 

[Perkilator]

I think Smash Bros. and Mario Kart are the two Nintendo franchises that I want to do as many new things as possible when their newest entries release on the next Nintendo console. Basically, the success of SSBU and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe should be a reason wipe the slate clean in terms of the series standards of old.

 

[Quillion]

I think Smash Bros. and Mario Kart are the two Nintendo franchises that I want to do as many new things as possible when their newest entries release on the next Nintendo console. Basically, the success of SSBU and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe should be a reason wipe the slate clean in terms of the series standards of old.

Why be so black-or-white about that issue?

If you want Mario Kart to "wipe the slate clean" in terms of series standards, you might as well say that they should ditch karts entirely and re-imagine the horses in Mario Sports Superstars.

 

[Waddleclaws]

Got an opinion about Nintendo products you need to get off your chest, popular or unpopular? This is the place for you.

Spoiler: Original Introduction

We have an Unpopular Opinions thread on this subforum that only covers Smash. Might as well have one that covers other Nintendo material outside of Smash.

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Durability is the only good part of Breath of the Wild's weapon system. Everything else about the BotW weapon system, or how it's implemented, is subpar-to-bad.

I know this is a fairly popular opinion, but Nintendo should put their games on PC. Literally every other company is doing it, and often, people in third world countries can't get the consoles until the lifespan is well over. Putting their games on steam, in SOME form, could boost accessibility a TON.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I know this is a fairly popular opinion, but Nintendo should put their games on PC. Literally every other company is doing it, and often, people in third world countries can't get the consoles until the lifespan is well over. Putting their games on steam, in SOME form, could boost accessibility a TON.

I agree to an extent. It's much better for the consumer, but I think Nintendo won't do it for quite some time. Nintendo consoles thrive off of exclusives and they can currently see the value of X-Box and PS5 plummet due to lacking exclusives.

I'd actually argue the other two console makers releasing their games on PC is hurting their brand immensely.

 

[Waddleclaws]

I agree to an extent. It's much better for the consumer, but I think Nintendo won't do it for quite some time. Nintendo consoles thrive off of exclusives and they can currently see the value of X-Box and PS5 plummet due to lacking exclusives.

I'd actually argue the other two console makers releasing their games on PC is hurting their brand immensely.

I can especially see this with Microsoft, especially considering literally every game on the Xbox seems to be also released for PC. If you've already got a PC that can play, Starfield, for example, then there's no point in buying an Xbox. And Xbox controllers work with most PCs, so if you prefer the style of playing with a controller, you also have that option on your PC. So, as I said, most people don't see the point in buying an Xbox.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I can especially see this with Microsoft, especially considering literally every game on the Xbox seems to be also released for PC. If you've already got a PC that can play, Starfield, for example, then there's no point in buying an Xbox. And Xbox controllers work with most PCs, so if you prefer the style of playing with a controller, you also have that option on your PC. So, as I said, most people don't see the point in buying an Xbox.

Exactly. The X-Box brand is dissolving. I think Nintendo will avoid that as much as possible.

Also they can be Scrooges.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Nintendo is a company very concerned with perceived value. Whether that's due to being an older/conservative company or seeing what happened to Atari during the 1983 Crash (when cartridges were cut in price so deeply to unload bloated inventory that they eventually had no value) I don't know. However, with Nintendo, you can see that philosophy reflected in both keeping their games exclusive and generally not allowing major discounts to first party titles. Cuts to consoles and cheaper entries via Greatest Hits editions make for nice memories, but they're often hallmarks of a Nintendo struggling in the market in some fashion.

Something like the Gamecube being reduced to $99 stands out as significant nostalgic memory for young gamers and as a symbolic sign of how much the console was third place presence in the sixth gen.

 

[Quillion]

I know this is a fairly popular opinion, but Nintendo should put their games on PC. Literally every other company is doing it, and often, people in third world countries can't get the consoles until the lifespan is well over. Putting their games on steam, in SOME form, could boost accessibility a TON.

I'm in favor of them putting SOME of their games on PC. Just a mix of retro favorites and some old obscurities that would be hard to preserve otherwise.

I wouldn't see them putting Mario Kart 8, the Zelda Wild duology, or Xenoblade 2 and 3 on PC, but some of the oldies would be viable.

I'd actually argue the other two console makers releasing their games on PC is hurting their brand immensely.

I know that Xbox and PlayStation have turned (more) to the PC market due to flagging profits, but I don't see how that hurts the brand.

The consoles are still accessibly priced and easy to set up, while the PC offers more control and versatility.

Cuts to consoles and cheaper entries via Greatest Hits editions make for nice memories, but they're often hallmarks of a Nintendo struggling in the market in some fashion.

They did that during the Wii era though.

As for the rest of your post, that's a major part of why I consider the current copyright system corrupt on the systemic level. But it's worsened by the whole entertainment sector only having inflation as the only method of devaluation (the technical accounting term for what is commonly called "depreciation"). And it's horribly ineffective because it leaves the corporate copyright owners free reign to inflate anything produced from an IP if it's still valuable.

The entire entertainment industry needs harder, legally enforced devaluation on any of their products. It's only then when we'll see this period of stagnation across industries end.

 

[Perkilator]

Quoting myself from the next Smash thread:

In general, I wish Nintendo wasn't such a stingy old grandpa of a company, especially with how much more money they've raked in during the Switch era.

 

[Quillion]

In general, I wish Nintendo wasn't such a stingy old grandpa of a company, especially with how much more money they've raked in during the Switch era.

It's either that or pursue more forward-thinking policies and end up laying off so much staff, constantly interfering in releases to the point of delays, and keep looking for ways to make players spend more money on games they already own.

The consumer loses either way.