yoshq
Smash Master
luigi IS slow, have you ever tried running with him lately.
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The Luigi Social Thread
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chic
Smash Ace
luigi slow? wtfff stop playin so much wifi hippy xD
BigLøu
Smash Lord
Luigi (i think) has the second worst horizontal movement in the game. And since luigi is generally played more aerial like, i can see why it would look slow.
However, it's our job to make him look as fast as possible ;p
However, it's our job to make him look as fast as possible ;p
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
how did you know...? (no seriously, HOW DID YOU KNOW? LOL) the transition to moving from wario in dubz to singles, than marth to singles etcc then to luigi does feel weird to be honest lol..
he does feel slow though x_x i think i play too patiently sometimes lol
He does have 2nd worst lol, worst one is DDD >_>.
and to make him look fast, ask chic, buffering at top speed on wifi makes u look gud.
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I just D-air camp like a ***** until I see fit to Tornado. Speed problem solved. =P
Okay that doesn't really work against G&W that well...What also helps is getting them above you and then learning to use attacks while doing your jumps to increase your vertical mobility. Jumping into someone and D-airing is pretty ****.
Okay that doesn't really work against G&W that well...What also helps is getting them above you and then learning to use attacks while doing your jumps to increase your vertical mobility. Jumping into someone and D-airing is pretty ****.
zhao_guang
Smash Lord
i have a pink name to match my pink luigi
suck it LGD
suck it LGD
ALiAsVee
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I second that. Btw, Luigi with Wario's aerial mobility via SA is my new main, just saying.
CR4SH
Smash Lord
Luigi is a super secret big fat fatty. He hits like a fatty. He lives like a fatty. And he even moves like a fatty!
As for fox, you really shouldn't be fighting him on SV unless it's his CP. Also, ban the **** out of FD. You want to keep the stage as small as possible because he's so fast and you;re so slow, and he wants nothing less than to be near you. Gimps are good, juggles are good. Uair hits him out of shinestalls and the dairs he tries to drop from them. You can chase a high shinestall with the side of a tornado, but thats not something you should do often. As for when you should platform camp? When you're ahead. Fox coming to you is never ever a bad thing. Just don't get predictable with it.
One way to try and get fox out of their camp game or at times punish them for trying is an old standby. Corner them on a ledge and short hop an aerial to a landing fireball. This one-two is particularly effective against fox's GTFO move, phantasm, in three ways. First, the short hopped (probably dair), can catch phantasm straight up, and send him off the stage for a guard. If you manage to catch him with the fireball it leaves him close to you and stunned. This also leaves you an opportunity to buffer a shield or jab, depending on what he's doing now. Or you can land with a tornado to keep him from getting comfortable.
Take what you like, leave what you don't. You know, play around with it. But those are some ideas.
Edit: I almost forgot. Don't **** with his dair when you're on the ground. Just roll away. It's just not worth it.
As for fox, you really shouldn't be fighting him on SV unless it's his CP. Also, ban the **** out of FD. You want to keep the stage as small as possible because he's so fast and you;re so slow, and he wants nothing less than to be near you. Gimps are good, juggles are good. Uair hits him out of shinestalls and the dairs he tries to drop from them. You can chase a high shinestall with the side of a tornado, but thats not something you should do often. As for when you should platform camp? When you're ahead. Fox coming to you is never ever a bad thing. Just don't get predictable with it.
One way to try and get fox out of their camp game or at times punish them for trying is an old standby. Corner them on a ledge and short hop an aerial to a landing fireball. This one-two is particularly effective against fox's GTFO move, phantasm, in three ways. First, the short hopped (probably dair), can catch phantasm straight up, and send him off the stage for a guard. If you manage to catch him with the fireball it leaves him close to you and stunned. This also leaves you an opportunity to buffer a shield or jab, depending on what he's doing now. Or you can land with a tornado to keep him from getting comfortable.
Take what you like, leave what you don't. You know, play around with it. But those are some ideas.
Edit: I almost forgot. Don't **** with his dair when you're on the ground. Just roll away. It's just not worth it.
Kev!
Smash Journeyman
I'm in ur thread.
Steelin' ur uniqueness.
Lord Viper
SS Rank
☆ Your name is magenta color, not pink. It would be the same color as my name. =P ☆
☆ Sigh, my friend DK2's Luigi is so good that he made my Luigi feel like a noob level by performing 3 Up-B's on me. I need more practice on my past main again. T_T ☆
Rofl, Luigi with Wario's aerial movement would be broken.
Also, he doesn't live like a fatty
Also, he doesn't live like a fatty
Kev!
Smash Journeyman
He can easily live up to 140 with decent DI, 160-180 using the forbidden technique of Ally DIRofl, Luigi with Wario's aerial movement would be broken.
Also, he doesn't live like a fatty
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
Wario's heavier than Luigi and lives longer than luigi Kev.
idk wtf ur talkin bout lawls
idk wtf ur talkin bout lawls
140 isn't fatty standard by any means. Once you're hitting the 180s, then you're fatty. 140 is like midweight.
Kev!
Smash Journeyman
I'm perfectly aware of that. That's why the comparison you referred to isn't mentionned at all in my post -_-
idk wtf UR talkin bout lawls /lolcat-ghettospeak much?
My bad, the conversion to B+ messed up my survival standards for vB lol
elheber
Smash Lord
Luigi might have slow horizontal speed and fall speed, but he makes up for it in lightning-quick attacks. There isn't one attack he has that I would say has a hitbox that comes out late.
Noraa
Smash Lord
does anyone else have a hard time killing with luigi some matches?
yoshq
Smash Master
luigi is so good at killing if they are at high percents. if they dont fall for a smash just get a few more percent and utilt,nair,bair,uair,dair,bthrow,edgegaurd,etc
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
I'm clearly stating a fact out loud, it wasn't meant to be any referred to your post.
LuigiKing
Smash Lord
Play me IRL and I'll show you just how long Luigi can live with proper DI and momentum cancelling. Luigi lives just as long as a fatty if you know what you're doing off the sides, off the top hes just midweight though.
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
come to ny im poor and ill play u lol and i already know your di
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Most of the time, I live to like 170% with Luigi with good DI. Usually that's mainly because I'm too slippery to actually be hit by fresh KO moves and because I don't get gimped, not because Luigi is actually heavy.
Just saying...I mean one of the advantages to Luigi defensively is the fact your opponent can't put much shield pressure on you, and that Tornado and Nair are gay enough to keep you safe from a lot of stuff that would like to be called a KO move.
Just saying...I mean one of the advantages to Luigi defensively is the fact your opponent can't put much shield pressure on you, and that Tornado and Nair are gay enough to keep you safe from a lot of stuff that would like to be called a KO move.
What characters are you facing? B/c if we're gonna throw out random numbers, I've lived to 260 against Falco in tournament, and 230 against GW, 205 against Snake, and these are vs people that are pros with their character :\
Luigi isn't going to be hitting fatty numbers ever.
Luigi isn't going to be hitting fatty numbers ever.
zhao_guang
Smash Lord
Hey guys let's put bold on every few words to put emphasis on what we want to say
Tournament tomorrow, get hyped.
Zhao_Guang
Tournament tomorrow, get hyped.
Zhao_Guang
chic
Smash Ace
ive gotten to 200 in tourny play once! horray
CR4SH
Smash Lord
I live into the 180s pretty regularly. Fair fastfall missile is stupid good.
Most I've ever lived to was like 280 on some Ike kid. Well most in a tournament that is.
Most I've ever lived to was like 280 on some Ike kid. Well most in a tournament that is.
ALiAsVee
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Lolcat - ghettospeak, that's pretty funny.
elheber
Smash Lord
I forget to DI upwards when launched sideways sometimes. Still, fAir to GM momentum cancel does a good job of keeping me alive.
You guys know what I forgot to test? I forgot to test if using a Rising Cyclone or SJP when launched upward will save you... What I mean is, even on Corneria you can fly up as high as you can and not knock yourself out. I deduced that perhaps when you use your own rising recovery moves you don't activate the top blast zone... so PERHAPS if you do a RC or SJP when launched upward by an attack you might be able to save yourself by actually flying higher. Can someone test this with the help of a friend? I'm all alone.
Skool Boi, isn't Marth's fAir faster than his dAir, and thus better at momentum canceling faster?
You guys know what I forgot to test? I forgot to test if using a Rising Cyclone or SJP when launched upward will save you... What I mean is, even on Corneria you can fly up as high as you can and not knock yourself out. I deduced that perhaps when you use your own rising recovery moves you don't activate the top blast zone... so PERHAPS if you do a RC or SJP when launched upward by an attack you might be able to save yourself by actually flying higher. Can someone test this with the help of a friend? I'm all alone.
Skool Boi, isn't Marth's fAir faster than his dAir, and thus better at momentum canceling faster?
CR4SH
Smash Lord
It won't. It'll kill you sooner.
LuigiKing
Smash Lord
cr4sh is right, I tested it and it doesn't work
CR4SH
Smash Lord
I've never tested it but I know the mechanics. You have to be under your own trajectory to live above the specified blast zones. If you're sent flying by an enemy's attack you don't have control over yourself until you at least fast fall (not sure if even that entirely counts).
The only character I know of that can kill themselves off the top is wario, not because he necessarily goes higher than anyone (I think sonic and luigi can get higher), but because his fart animation isn't considered "his" by the game.
The only character I know of that can kill themselves off the top is wario, not because he necessarily goes higher than anyone (I think sonic and luigi can get higher), but because his fart animation isn't considered "his" by the game.
yoshq
Smash Master
my friend and i were just playing, and he was wario, and he farted himself to death at 20% from off the edge at a spot right above the stage
elheber
Smash Lord
You're my hero cr4sh. You can have my collection of bottlecaps when I die.
zhao_guang
Smash Lord
tournament today *****es, PINK LUIGI IS TAKING IT DOWN.
Exceladon City
Smash Hero
Look at Crash tutoring the Luigi Boards. Crash for MOD!
oh ****.
I lost ALL the matches where I used Luigi today. I got the worst bracket possible okay, but wtf. And it's not just loosing, it's being 2 stocked. I'm sad. And I still don't want to drop Luigi. I did some random *** newcomer mistakes like nair spamming against a olimar, being too confident, all that ****...
**** that, I need smashfests. Wifi sux.
I lost ALL the matches where I used Luigi today. I got the worst bracket possible okay, but wtf. And it's not just loosing, it's being 2 stocked. I'm sad. And I still don't want to drop Luigi. I did some random *** newcomer mistakes like nair spamming against a olimar, being too confident, all that ****...
**** that, I need smashfests. Wifi sux.
the f*** if i know i just picked marth up as a secondary, lol i main luigi
its me Jack Frost
I remember once i was fighting a DK with Marth and he hit me with some strong attack while i was at 160% i DI'd to the other side of the stage and dair'd twice and lived, it was crazy
the last post i made in here i was talking about when im using luigi