Legend of Zelda The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - NO SPOILERS, USE THE SPOILER THREAD PLEASE

[finalark]

I have yet to play a Zelda that's had more NPC interaction than MM. By being at its pinnacle, I'm talking the extensive event chains you can go through for just about any NPC..different dialog for just about every instance, that peak of curiosity you'd get naturally for a lot of villagers (though this part is defiantly present in past Zelda titles, in my opinion Majora's Mask had it out more broader).

Oh, in Zelda. Yeah, pretty much.

And I can't understand why anyone would want voice acting in Zelda, but to each his own, not going to start a debate over that.

Because this is the modern era, using text boxes looks lazy and feels outdated. Nintendo's consoles print money, it couldn't hurt them to actually hire people who know how to voice act.

I know that 88% of you disagree with me on this, but that's my personal opinion.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I don't like how everything's about the combat right now. Yeah I know it's early but so far all I'm thinking is "Ok the graphics are pretty cool and combat looks vastly improved." Where's the hype?

It's just my opinion but so far I still haven't had that "omg I NEED to get this game now!" feeling yet that I get with most trailers.

In example the very first Twilight Princess trailer (while it was VERY overhyped) pretty much made everyone **** themselves when they first saw it. I know I did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRDOVNuZMBk So far Skyward Sword hasn't done that for me at all.

 

[finalark]

I don't like how everything's about the combat right now. Yeah I know it's early but so far all I'm thinking is "Ok the graphics are pretty cool and combat looks vastly improved." Where's the hype?

It's just my opinion but so far I still haven't had that "omg I NEED to get this game now!" feeling yet that I get with most trailers.

I think Nintendo is trying to avoid raising unrealistic expectations (I mean honestly, would so many people hate TP if they weren't expecting it to be better than the invention of the waffle iron?). Right now I'm pretty underwhelmed by what I've seen too, I'm hoping that Nintendo is intentionally keeping things quite so that way we aren't disappointed by it.

I hope, anyway. On the other hand, it could just end up being a very underwhelming game. I'm hoping it's the first.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

Oh, in Zelda. Yeah, pretty much.



Because this is the modern era, using text boxes looks lazy and feels outdated. Nintendo's consoles print money, it couldn't hurt them to actually hire people who know how to voice act.

I know that 88% of you disagree with me on this, but that's my personal opinion.

Who cares if this is the modern era or not?

People who want voice acting lack the imaginative spark they once had when reading text, in my opinion at least. I naturally have a voice in my head whenever reading text in a game, most of all Zelda. I think voice acting would completely destroy the aesthetic and atmosphere Zelda offers. But, this is just my opinion as well, I don't really fit in with american society in the first place, so I suppose that's why I couldn't give a damn living up to standards or what current era we're in.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I think Nintendo is trying to avoid raising unrealistic expectations (I mean honestly, would so many people hate TP if they weren't expecting it to be better than the invention of the waffle iron?). Right now I'm pretty underwhelmed by what I've seen too, I'm hoping that Nintendo is intentionally keeping things quite so that way we aren't disappointed by it.

I hope, anyway. On the other hand, it could just end up being a very underwhelming game. I'm hoping it's the first.

I agree they don't need to attempt to make the most hyped up trailers ever like they did with TP but at LEAST give me something that makes me anticipate the next trailer.

All I saw in this new trailer was MORE combat, a few old and new enemies, and a small antagonist tease that wasn't jaw dropping in any way shape or form...

 

[finalark]

People who want voice acting lack the imaginative spark they once had when reading text, in my opinion at least.

I have that too, whenever I read dialog in a book, comic, or game. But at this point it just makes Nintendo looks lazy in my opinion.

It's like "meh, let's not bother with voice acting, they'll eat it up if we just slap the Zelda logo onto the box anyway."

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

I have that too, whenever I read dialog in a book, comic, or game. But at this point it just makes Nintendo looks lazy in my opinion.

It's like "meh, let's not bother with voice acting, they'll eat it up if we just slap the Zelda logo onto the box anyway."

So, are you saying you would want voice acting in just to be assured Nintendo isn't being lazy?

I don't know, I think Nintendo's putting aside all of this wii fitness stuff and actually listening to the core members of their franchises. I believe the whole wii fitness phase and such was just to gather up a good sum of money to cater more towards ''every' fan. I mean, in my own opinion, Wii hasn't lived up to Gamecube's run for me, but I've still enjoyed a lot of games on the console itself. The early days of Wii I only had 3-4 games I dug really deep into, Super Paper Mario, Wario Land Shake it, etc. But I'm noticing an increase in their first party games, not just in amount, but trying something ''new''..Kirby's Epic Yarn is a good example of this, though I enjoyed the game, and thought it was decent, I defiantly didn't like the whole ''not being able to die'' implementation, and really wished they would of just stuck to the traditional Kirby format. But I was soon to be even more excited when I heard of another Kirby game in the works, this time with the traditional Kirby game play. I'm straying off topic, but I just thought I'd give my input in as far as Nintendo being ''lazy''.

 

[finalark]

So, are you saying you would want voice acting in just to be assured Nintendo isn't being lazy?

No, I just want Nintendo actually try to advance rather than stay three steps behinds it's competition at all times.

I don't know, I think Nintendo's putting aside all of this wii fitness stuff and actually listening to the core members of their franchises. I believe the whole wii fitness phase and such was just to gather up a good sum of money to cater more towards ''every' fan. I mean, in my own opinion, Wii hasn't lived up to Gamecube's run for me, but I've still enjoyed a lot of games on the console itself. The early days of Wii I only had 3-4 games I dug really deep into, Super Paper Mario, Wario Land Shake it, etc. But I'm noticing an increase in their first party games, not just in amount, but trying something ''new''..Kirby's Epic Yarn is a good example of this, though I enjoyed the game, and thought it was decent, I defiantly didn't like the whole ''not being able to die'' implementation, and really wished they would of just stuck to the traditional Kirby format. But I was soon to be even more excited when I heard of another Kirby game in the works, this time with the traditional Kirby game play. I'm straying off topic, but I just thought I'd give my input in as far as Nintendo being ''lazy''.

Things like this is why I want an official debate thread in the light house.

I'm just gonna say that Nintendo has been fairly lazy recently (NSMB Wii, for example) but it is nice that they're stepping away from the casual stuff. And I'm glad that they're actually trying new things with some of their franchises (The impressionist painting art of Skyward Sword, the yarn motif in Kirby, ect.).

I agree they don't need to attempt to make the most hyped up trailers ever like they did with TP but at LEAST give me something that makes me anticipate the next trailer.

All I saw in this new trailer was MORE combat, a few old and new enemies, and a small antagonist tease that wasn't jaw dropping in any way shape or form...

Yeah, like I said, I'm pretty underwhelmed too. I just hope Nintendo is doing this to stop another TP hype backlash from happening.

 

[IYM!]

Woow, so much hype for a simple trailer.

i like the new Stalfos design. and that new character looks strange.


If he is the villain, I hope that he being stronger than Zant



I loked again the trailer

Link have another sword, must be the starting sword like the kokiri or ordon.

below the hearst apear a bar with the hylian shield, that must indicate the shield resistance.

and in the wii mote panel (at tghe right part of the screen) apear the face of the blue girl of the original artwork.


i only hope a dificult Zelda with more challenge than the previous ones

 

[Luigitoilet]

There is also a harp (?) that seems to be set to D-up

Also just voicing my dissent at voice acting. Voice acting is not equivalent to "progress" or "modernity". Voice acting is completely secondary to making a great game.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Also, just pointing it out that that jester guy near the end has the same color scheme/design as the Gilded Sword from MM.

probably doesn't mean anything, just throwing it out there for speculation. Maybe there is more than one character who is also a sword?

edit :

 

[The Real Gamer]

Also, just pointing it out that that jester guy near the end has the same color scheme/design as the Gilded Sword from MM.

My goodness you are quite an observant one...

 

[Spire]

His cape and the sword look way too similar. Even the hilt has deep blood red like his cloak, and the butt of the sword is like a pearl, similar to the color of his hair and jumpsuit. It's not a stretch at all. If he has nothing to do with the Gilded Sword (which he probably won't for obvious reasons), I think there's a great chance his design was based on it.

 

[IsmaR]

Liking how the Dino/Lizalfos look.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Liking how the Dino/Lizalfos look.

That's one of my favorite parts. It looks like a pretty exciting combat scenario, considering (assumingly) they will both have changing blocking patterns. Could make for some very intense and a little more strategic combat. I hope there is a lot of multiple enemy areas like that.

 

[Problem2]

I was thinking he might be related to the evil sorcerers referenced in Twilight Princess. The whole cutscene felt so pointless after you beat the game. It got me all hyped up for a tie in, but nothing relevant came from that cutscene really other than it explained why the Twili were banned.

The guy looking like the gilded sword is a remarkable find though.

EDIT: Now I wonder if this game is going to explain why there is an alternate world called Termina.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

Now I wonder if this game is going to explain why there is an alternate world called Termina.

I'm really really hoping for that in the back of my mind, but I keep holding it back...don't think it's going to happen, but, seeing a design reimplemented from Majora's Mask made me a tid bit more hopeful..I mean, if they're going back and using/changing some templates from the game..at that time, they HAD to of considered at least adding a bit of Termina lore to the story a bit..or at least wrote down some plans for future sequels..? ...Look at what you've done to me

 

[Chill]

Just throwing it out there but I would love voice acting. I know that we aren't going to get it but I'd like it anyways.

This trailer actually made me excited for this game. The first time I saw SS I was completely disinterested.

..and I know this doesn't matter at all but I think the new logo is fantastic.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

Another concern I have is how the Temples are going to work out in this game. Though they've never really failed my expectations in the past..I can't help but imagine them dumbing them down or just doing a large group of 10 or so dungeons. Though I still doubt they'd remove one of the core elements of Zelda, I just can't help but have that nagging thought..

It's been awhile since I last had to use a guide for a Zelda dungeon/ask a friend, though this may of been because I was much younger then, but I struggled with Great Bay Temple and Snowhead Temple the most..perhaps I'm hoping for too much for a higher difficulty like that, but you can't help but get excited when you see/hear of them taking Zelda a bit further back to its roots.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

Just throwing it out there but I would love voice acting. I know that we aren't going to get it but I'd like it anyways.

This trailer actually made me excited for this game. The first time I saw SS I was completely disinterested.

..and I know this doesn't matter at all but I think the new logo is fantastic.

We were discussing that a page or so back..

In my opinion it would completely destroy Zelda and honestly don't see why anyone would want it in..I honestly can't. If you'd be so kind as to enlighten me why you want voice acting in Zelda? I'm just curious.

 

[Spire]

Yeah the new logo is fantastic. It's perfection incarnate; perhaps the best Zelda logo to date.

 

[IYM!]

this game will have a lot of sword puzzles.

 

[Luigitoilet]

The voiceacting debate is annoying and we've been over it a hundred times.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

The voiceacting debate is annoying and we've been over it a hundred times.

Wasn't trying to start up a debate again, I really just wanted to know the reasons..the ones given before didn't really explain much at all.

Oh well though...I suppose I'll address one of my earlier posts, any of you concerned with how the dungeons/temples are going to be implemented?

 

[Spire]

Wasn't trying to start up a debate again, I really just wanted to know the reasons..the ones given before didn't really explain much at all.

Oh well though...I suppose I'll address one of my earlier posts, any of you concerned with how the dungeons/temples are going to be implemented?

How about this reason: Nintendo obviously doesn't care about voice acting because they aren't trying to make interactive movies. More so than ever before in the past decade, I think Nintendo is embracing the core of their franchises: pure gaming. Hence why the Skyward Sword GDC trailer was all about gameplay over cinematics.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

How about this reason: Nintendo obviously doesn't care about voice acting because they aren't trying to make interactive movies. More so than ever before in the past decade, I think Nintendo is embracing the core of their franchises: pure gaming. Hence why the Skyward Sword GDC trailer was all about gameplay over cinematics.

Oh, I meant I can't understand the reasons why people want voice acting IN.

 

[GwJ]

how about this reason: Nintendo obviously doesn't care about voice acting because they aren't trying to make interactive movies. More so than ever before in the past decade, i think nintendo is embracing the core of their franchises: Pure gaming. Hence why the skyward sword gdc trailer was all about gameplay over cinematics.

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[Kesusjade]

So there has apparently been a debate over voice acting in a Zelda game.
In a ZELDA GAME.

Alrighty then.

I don't feel like scrolling through insurmountable piles of text to see how that little charade played itself out, but I've gotta say, I like Link's new voice.
Btw, I think the character at the end of the trailer (presumably the antagonist?) needed more screen time. I don't know about the rest of you, but I had soiled my pants three different ways simply because of his little vanishing animation at the end.
Do we know his name yet? I have been giving approximately no ****s about checking for character data.

And I call myself a Zelda fan

 

[finalark]

I think I'll call him Happy Vaati until we know he's real name.

 

[Kesusjade]

Sounds like a plan.

Also I am very much reminded of Count Bleck from Super Paper Mario.
Ahh, Happy Vaati, you give me so much joy and you haven't even been properly introduced yet.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

Sounds like a plan.

Also I am very much reminded of Count Bleck from Super Paper Mario.
Ahh, Happy Vaati, you give me so much joy and you haven't even been properly introduced yet.

This.

I was reminded of the same thing.

Let's just hope that antagonist isn't just a mini boss or side villain...though that wouldn't be bad either, but it would probably increase the chances of Ganon once again being the final boss. I really don't mind how many times they use Ganondorf but at least space out his appearances some.

 

[Kesusjade]

Let's just hope that antagonist isn't just a mini boss or side villain...

Why would they give a miniboss screentime as the only notable antagonist in the game at this point?
I mean, Jesus, just hand the damn game over to this guy.

I mean they already did it once with regular (sad) Vaati. Let's go for round two, guys. I think we can all survive another Zelda game without Ganon.

SUPER KAWAII EDIT-SU: In fact, I'd be thrilled to see Ganon more or less on the GOOD side this time around, if he does make an appearance in SS, kind of like what I suggested for Project Zelda. I mean, as far as I understand, Ganondorf was once a regular person, right? I mean, before he was corrupted by the power of the Triforce?

So it'd be completely plausible in my opinion to have him help Link along the way, if only to obtain the Triforce (or whatever the hell he wants. ****, it could be a chili dog for all it's worth).

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

Well, they did the same for Twilight Princess with Zant..if I'm not mistaking.

And perhaps mini boss was a poor term to use, now that I think about it..but you get what I meant, I was just saying that their could be a ''group'' of antagonists this time (Like SPM for an example).

It's been awhile, I don't care if it's Ganon or not, but I'd prefer if it wasn't this time around.

 

[Kesusjade]

I see what you mean though.

I'm guessing that Nintendo's going to follow the formula that's obviously been working so well over the years, and that Happy Vaati will be the secondary antagonist, with Ganon somehow pulling his strings and calling all the shots.
Just like Zant...


And Aghanim.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

In fact, I'd be thrilled to see Ganon more or less on the GOOD side this time around, if he does make an appearance in SS, kind of like what I suggested for Project Zelda. I mean, as far as I understand, Ganondorf was once a regular person, right? I mean, before he was corrupted by the power of the Triforce?

So it'd be completely plausible in my opinion to have him help Link along the way, if only to obtain the Triforce (or whatever the hell he wants. ****, it could be a chili dog for all it's worth).

I believe Ganon's surrogate mothers were the one who corrupted him, right? My memory isn't so fresh on that at the moment..

I like the idea you came up with though. Ganondorf would join forces with Link, but you'd be expecting Ganon to betray you at any moment..would create great tension.

 

[Kesusjade]

I believe Ganon's surrogate mothers were the one who corrupted him, right? My memory isn't so fresh on that at the moment..

I like the idea you came up with though. Ganondorf would join forces with Link, but you'd be expecting Ganon to betray you at any moment..would create great tension.

My point exactly. I think I'll keep posting good-Ganon propaganda until the internet realizes how good an idea this is. HNNNG I want so bad.

Also, I'm not sure if that's true, I'll have to brush up on the Zelda Wiki later on.

 

[finalark]

I'm just happy to see Nintendo expanding Link's rogue's gallery, I just hope they don't shoehorn Ganny into the end like they did in TP.

And I'm for the "Ganondorf joining forces with Link" idea.

 

[Eturnus_Frost]

I like the sound of it as well..

But it'd have to be done perfect in my opinion.

I mean, if they'd implement that idea, the more you get to know the villain, the less menacing in some cases..

However if they pulled it off well, it'd pretty much expand the entire franchise in a good direction..that and for those who take part in the timeline theory...man that'd be a paradox.

 

[Kesusjade]

I mean, if they'd implement that idea, the more you get to know the villain, the less menacing in some cases..

Well, even if they were to do it and NOT do it perfectly, there's always Happy Vaati to be the MAIN villain.
Besides, there are different incarnations of Ganny and Linky-boo throughout the timeline, right? Why would it be impossible for THIS particular Ganon to NOT see Link as a possible roadblock to his plans? Why can't THIS Ganon just realize, "Hey, this kid is pretty useful I think I'd like to be on HIS team."
If they did it right, you'd also be in suspense that Ganon would turn on you at any step of the way.
I don't mind them making Ganon deep and less menacing, though. Maybe we could have a less menacing Ganon for a Zelda game with a less serious art-style.

 

[finalark]

Well, isn't SWS a prequel to the entire Zelda mythos?

I think it would make more sense if we saw Gannondorf starting out as a decent guy but then seeing the events that turned him evil over time.

I'm pretty curious to know what Happy Vaati's role is going to be and how he will (if he does) tie into Gannondorf.