Honestly, I am against this rule. In all honesty if you were so paranoid against camping it would be better to turn off the timer so planking does not get you any reward rather than doing this. I didn't like this idea when I first heard it, and I don't like it now. If you want to remove planking, remove the only benefit it has: winning by time out. That's INFINITELY better than checking number of ledge grabs every match.
No it's not. Every tournament has a time limit. You only make players camp the ledge for 20 minutes every match. Tourneys couldn't even be played for that reason - the timeframe is limited.
Banning MK is honestly the solution. The only reason MK isn't banned right now is because the SBR consists of far more Melee players than it does brawl players and thus the overall opinion of the SBR is flawed due to its overall inexperience in brawl and with MK.
I'm dissapointed to hear that from you since I was under the impression you were an experienced tournament host. No offence but if you think that banning MK would be the solution you're pretty naive. That either sounds like you look for an excuse to ban MK or that you are simply premature. You can ban MK and people will start planking with Pit, ROB, G&W and Marth. Banning MK won't change that...I think you're smart enough to understand that.
There's a video of a Pit player from Florida (Danny), who is about to loose to a MK (2 stocks behind IIRC) and wins the match by planking and using arrows 90% of the time. Watch it if you think that MK is the only reason planking should be banned.
i'd say the bigger problem is the sbr is filled with people who are idiots in general.
This is true but has actually little to do with the subject. It's not like good TOs listen to the SBR in the first place.
Doesn't marth also have an extremely gay ledgecamp with his fair and upb?
Also I lol when people realize how stupidly designed and uncompetitive barwl is, and then are forced to be scrubs and ban stuff and whine about cheap stuff.
Funny thing you mentioned this because Sheik's or Jigglypuff's planking in Melee was a lot more broken. Just because Melee players are
scrubs, who don't use that tactic to win (which is what being competitive is all about) doesn't mean Brawl is uncompetitive (at least not for that reason).
Also it's rather the communities that are being uncompetitive. If Melee or it's community was as competitive as you all pretend it to be more people would've planked in order to win. But scrubs don't play to win (but still pretend to e competitive) that's why planking isn't an issue in Melee.
First of all, I don't play brawl, just melee.
With that said, people that are bashing the brawl community for this, saying things like "brawl sucks, lets me this a rule to get people to stop playing. lololol" are all idiots. Planking was invented in melee, and is just as cheap there as it is in brawl, the only difference is the brawl player ethic. Brawl players have more of a one track mind: win. Generally, melee players have been a bit more honorable than brawlers, although there are definitely exceptions. However, plank used to plank with sheik all the time in melee. Jiggly has a beast ledgestall very similar to metaknights.
Also to people that say its ******** because the player should be allowed to do whatever it takes to win...those people need to watch teh_spamerer play brawl. Also, similar rules have always been around. "Jigglypuff's rising pound and peach's wall bomber can be used as recovery techniques, not as a way of stalling a match" In other words, there have always been ways to stall in melee, they were just easier to ban.
This man speaks truth.
This is a terrible rule. You can easily run the timer by running away the entire match without ledgecamping.
No you can't. The only character who's even remotely capable of doing this is Falco and he's still very limited. Also stages that allow these tactics (like Plank did on Luigi's Mansion) should be banned.
Just because you were able to run away a whole match on Pokefloats against Vidjo doesn't mean that it's always possible. Floats is a broken stage as is every stage that allows such tactics.
Also vids or it didn't happen.
Idiotic rule. What if I just get thrown off the ledge a lot? How was it decided on that the magic number should be 70? How is it not an arbitrary number? And who the hell is going to keep count?!
If Planking is so overpowered, get it banned instead of trying to find random ways to ban not only Planking but also other, very legit things. Last time it was some kind of rule that would've impeded on Camping in general. This time it's a rule that could disqualify people because they just get thrown off the ledge a lot (or just force them to recover high, which isn't always the best option).
I don't know if you read AZ's fisrt post but he made a point you didn't adress. This rule isn't necessarily meant to stop planking. If you grab the ledge 70 times you lose. That encourages to play an offensive game as knocking the opponent off the stage might turn out to be rewarding and stop ledgecamping at the same time. The rule isn't only meant to stop planking but an more general idea.
I'm not saying I agree with this idea but you just didn't answer to it...intentional or not.
Lol guys I think the real reason nobody really planked in Melee was because they were too busy having fun
A competitive game is about
winning. If I want fun I turn on items and play on Hyrule Temple because on the lower part you can survive too 300%! Now thatis fun.
