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Count

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I don't get how MK dittos are ******** and don't determine much, yet M2K's best mu is meta knight dittos and he never loses them.
 

Eddie G

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I don't get how MK dittos are ******** and don't determine much, yet M2K's best mu is meta knight dittos and he never loses them.
Why? Because with the obvious outlier above aside, someone like me (who is good with my character but doesn't necessarily have the best MK out there) or someone else who may not be as good as me can pick up MK and basically remedy a portion of the would-be difficulty, disadvantage, or other factors specific to the MK vs *insert character here* matchup that they'd otherwise face with their initial character from the get-go by turning the match into a completely neutral guessing game. That, in turn, becomes boring to some. And realistically speaking...it can't determine much of anything besides who may be better at the ditto at the time or who made more correct guesses in the respective matches because it presents the possibility to blur an otherwise obvious gap of skill level between players.

Take Ksizzle's spoken example for instance: he admits to being able to lose to Inui in the MK ditto, but also points out that he is an overall better player than Inui which most would agree with at this time. Inui may just be better at the ditto or he may have made more correct guesses in their respective matches. That is the extent to which any determination can be made.

Then he says that he beat Anti in a few MK dittos, but admits that Anti is an obviously better player than himself, further hinting at the effect the MK ditto has on a gap of player skill.
 

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I can see your point but there are other instances where a better player loses from being better at a certain matchup, etc. Maybe they are more random than some matchups but I still think for the most part the better player wins in MK dittos.
 

Steel_Samurai

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I've been playing marth/mk/fox online, but if the RR would happen I would def go marth

Kinda random, but anyone wanna wifi tomorrow XD
Ill be using marth/fox/mk in rotation
 

clowsui

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Snake v. Marth is by far the most fun matchup in the game imo, it's followed closely by Falco v. Snake, Falco v. Diddy and MK dittos.
 

Eddie G

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You people have terrible, terrible taste. xP

It's all about that Peach vs ZSS (even and fun), Peach vs Marth (fun and challenging), Peach vs ROB (lol), and Peach vs Lucario (fun as hell, warms my powershielding up so much).

Wario or Diddy vs anyone is kind of fun too.
 

Juushichi

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All you guys are silly. The best matchup in the game is Mario vs Luigi and Mario vs Yoshi. Get at me. (Also, general mid-tier vs mid-tier is hilarious and fun.
 

KassandraNova

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Infern, your mk is still scrubby to me. And it always will be. ^_^ So deal with it!
*points to KB's posts*

Yeah, mk dittos are boring imo. It's kinda the reason why I haven't been playing brawl, is because every match seems to end up leading to that. :O
 

Calebyte

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Mario dittos are hella gay, my least favorite MU in the game, I'd rather play against DDD any day. Everyone always wants to Mario ditto me all the time and it annoys me. I'm just going to start going MK when that shiz happens. Mario's a terrible character anyway, I don't know why anyone would take him seriously.

EDIT: I like Mario vs Sheik because it's fast and fun. Diddy and Wario are also fun and challenging.
 

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MK dittos are my worst MU. I lose to EVERYONE at them.

Brawl sucks. I put so much time and effort and money into it, yet someone that cares much less about the game/ knows less/ has played a small fraction of the time I have can beat me.
 

Eddie G

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MK dittos are my worst MU. I lose to EVERYONE at them.

Brawl sucks. I put so much time and effort and money into it, yet someone that cares much less about the game/ knows less/ has played a small fraction of the time I have can beat me.
I feel your pain lol. My only main gripe is tripping giving people free opportunities or taking away someone's explosive momentum they may have built.

/Still salty as hell about tripping against Z's MK last stock game 1 after punishing every single thing he did for the entire last stock and was going in for the kill. Got grabbed from the trip, back thrown offstage and killed by a SL that I've avoided numerous times from the shock of it all. I was truly, truly pissed off at that. Losing game 1 to a MK was essentially losing the set already. And surprise surprise, I took him back to the same stage game 2, didn't trip, and won. Hmm.....
 

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Infern's MK is gay. Instead of fighting me, he just sits on the SV platform and/or planks.

IDC, my diddy ***** it
 

Juushichi

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Mario dittos are hella gay, my least favorite MU in the game, I'd rather play against DDD any day. Everyone always wants to Mario ditto me all the time and it annoys me. I'm just going to start going MK when that shiz happens. Mario's a terrible character anyway, I don't know why anyone would take him seriously.

EDIT: I like Mario vs Sheik because it's fast and fun. Diddy and Wario are also fun and challenging.
It's true. Mario ditto's are the worst MU in the game.
 

clowsui

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Unless I manage to pull off an act of God today/Friday, the fest is not happening Sunday. Sorry :<

EDIT: Likelihood has increased. Wednesday fest is looking very likely for me also (i.e. I'mma host next Wed.)
 

Y.b.M.

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Looks like my 3rd Character is pretty Solid, (God Kais and Sneaky keep the Character a secret please)... My training has been paying off... I beat Infern in a serious Set 3/5 haha.... So it's at least able to beat every other Snake....Since he has the best Snake in the Midwest...

Hmmmm... I wonder when that character will make a Debut...Hmmm
 
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