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The "character who would you rather over character" thread

Firox

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Geno over Hero
Sceptile over Incineroar
Scizor over Pichu
Knuckles over Joker
Master Chief over Steve
Any Soul Caliber Character over Kazuya
Waluigi, Hammer Bro, Smithy, Geno again, or virtually any other unique Mario character with an actual set of arms and legs over Piranha Plant
Viridi or Hades over Dark Pit
Shadow over dark samus (if I gotta have a clone, make it a cooler one)
Midna/Wolf Link over the two redundant child Links
Any Laguz character from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn over one of the clone/semi-clone swordfighters (Marth/Roy/Chrom/Lucina)
 

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King Dice or the Devil >>>>>>>>>> Cuphead and Mugman

Having the potential to not be zoners alone makes them better picks, but once you add in how much more personality they have; and that the selling point of Cuphead is the overly animated screen-spanning bosses, they're just perfect. This applies to Fraymakers as well.

Also, Small Mario > Paper Mario and generic Waddle Dee > Bandana Waddle Dee

Now, when it comes to alternate timelines... I've made my thoughts on Chief and Banjo very clear in the past.
 
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Impa over any other Zelda character
Dimitri over Edelgard, but I actually want all House Leaders.
Garchomp over a new Pokemon cause of it's lasting popularity
Toad over Captain Toad, not likely but yeah
 

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Ahri over Sora / Kazuya
Master Chief over Joker
Vault Boy over Hero
( AoC ) _ Impa over Min-Min
 

UserKev

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This is one character I always kinda wanted and is 100% behind this guy now. The taunts are there, the moveset is there. The home stage is there. I'm not sure if he's considerably associated with Sony, but other than Crash Bandicoot, he's the character I'd take over any other Sony character.
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I'm gonna update my list:
1. Andross over any new star fox rep (Seems kinda weird, but look. Andross is not going to look out of place, considering that we could use his "Zero" form (even the game wasn't great, it wouldn't hurt him just like Falco, Fox and Wolf have "SF zero" designs))

2. ExciteBiker over Mach Rider (just like Wario3) (Excitebike NES game was one of 10 most selling NES games)

3. Shao Kahn or Scorpion over Sub-Zero or different Mortal Kombat character.

4. Tiki (Adult) over Lucina (She would bring out more interesting moveset imo)

5. Arwing Squad Assist trophy over Andross AT - far more interesting idea about bombarding the stage with Arwings' attacks than just floating "blocky" head doing the same thing as Lugia (which is shooting stuff from background)

6. Morag & Brighid over Pyra/Mythra - the JoJo-esque fighter uses it's stand to attack (unlike Joker which it just boosts his stats) would be awesome. Pyra/Mythra, even with Rex as playable are fine, but Morag & Brighid kinda need some limelight.

7. Garchomp or Rhyperior over Lucario or different Gen 4 rep:
Garchomp has unique moveset potential and he would be first dragon-type pokemon to be playable in smash. Plus his mega evolution could be his final smash.

Rhyperior while being kinda underrated pokemon, it still has earth-bending powers that would make him a heavy-weight version of Toph from NASB. Also it could shoot out rocks from it's hands like a bazooka, which it is also cool to me.

Another pokemon choices.
8. Rillaboom or Inteleon over Cinderace:

Rillaboom would utilize his drumming skills and we could get another gorilla-type fighter after DK himself. Also he would use a lot of grass-type moves.
His final smash would be his G-Max form and he would perform the most loudest lethal concert that would harm a lot of fighters.

Inteleon would be James Bond-inspired fighter that could crawl or even use spy-related stuff and he would use water type moves since he is the water type pokemon.

His G-Max form would be final smash. He would target one fighter and shoot it like a sniper.
(Also he would be the "James Bond" of smash if we ever try to get real James Bond as fighter - which is very unlikely since he is a 4th party character)

9. Skeledirge or Grafaiai over Meowscarada or Tinkaton:
Skeledirge would be the 3rd quadrupedal fighter in the game and he would use a lot of singing in his moveset.
Like always, his final smash would let him use terastal form.

Grafaiai - would be another ink-type fighter like Inkling, but it would be more poison-related fighter than Inkling.
Also a grafitti fighter would be cool in the game.

Ok, this is going to be non-Nintendo smash alternate universe scenario...
10. Bowser over Mario - Yes, Mario's the most iconic video game character and we can't deny the fact, but a villain-over-protag choice would be awesome, considering that Bowser is one of most iconic video game villains and he has more feats than Mario himself without any power-ups.
 

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I’m gonna do this again but this time, I’m not going to replace characters for the sake of replacing. I’m going to do replacements that are still relatively in line with the characters as they are.
  • Meowth over Jigglypuff
  • Scizor over Pichu
  • A de-cloned Ganondorf over Young Link
  • Totodile and Grovyle over Squirtle and Ivysaur
  • Tetra over Toon Link
  • Azura over Corrin
  • Waluigi over Piranha Plant
  • Slime over Hero
 

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Ahri’s side Special = deception orb
Ahri‘s Neutral Special = charm
Ahri’s up Special = spirit rush

Master Chief’s Final Smash = Incineration Cannon
Master Chief’s weapons = Z-180 Scattershot &
MC’s down Special = reinforce = ( damage / speed ) boost or ammo
Master Chief’s Horizontal Special = light armor shield
Master Chief‘s Neutral Special = weapon fire
Master Chief’s up Special = grapple-shot

Elysium = from Soul Calibur = base style = enhanced Omega Pyrrha
Elysium’s Neutral Special = style swap between ; whip & sword
Elysium’s horizontal Special = Ice Crystal
Elysium’s Down Special = Critical Edge
Elysium’s up Special = Flight

Lineage Rep = Sylph Storm Blaster Class
Silent Blitz = Attacks 2X at undetectable speed.
Dragon Strike = Sends forth a colossal dragon
Freezing Wound = Freezes hit opponent(s)
smash attack = Piercing Thrust

Giovanna , from Guilty Gear

over all SSBU 3rd party characters
 

UserKev

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In terms of Pokemon Starters, Totodile would've been such a bright and fun addition. Definitely a missed opportunity. It's Down Smash could've been a echo of Yoshi's. And tones of head butting and possibly Kirby's seismic toss. You could have even possibly give Totodile a move inspired by the death roll for grab throws. Totodile is a Starter I would take over ANY other Starter, including evolutions.
 

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In terms of Pokemon Starters, Totodile would've been such a bright and fun addition. Definitely a missed opportunity. It's Down Smash could've been a echo of Yoshi's. And tones of head butting and possibly Kirby's seismic toss. You could have even possibly give Totodile a move inspired by the death roll for grab throws. Totodile is a Starter I would take over ANY other Starter, including evolutions.
Actually, I was thinking the same thing, that Pokémon Trainer’s team should’ve been Totodile, Grovyle and Charizard.

On another note, I made a thread a while back about changing FE’s representation.
 
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Waluigi over Piranha Plant (Piranha Plant would work fine as part of Waluigi’s moveset in my opinion)

Dixie Kong over Piranha Plant

Decidueye over Incineroar

Gen 3 or Gen 5 Pokémon over Gen 8 or Gen 9

Skull Kid over Impa

Krystal over Byleth

Edelgard over Byleth

Lyn over Chrom

Pyra over Rex

Doom Slayer or Master Chief over Joker

Lloyd Irving over Hero

Phoenix Wright over Professor Layton

King over Kazuya

Shovel Knight over Cuphead

More Sonic characters over any third party franchise (Sonic seriously needs more representation and I don’t care if it’s Tails, Knuckles, or Dr. Eggman, I’d be happy with another Sonic character period)

Stages

Snowy Plains from New Super Mario Bros. over the Mario Bros. stage that debuted in Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Rainbow Road from Super Smash Bros. for 3DS over Figure-8 Circuit

Gang-Plank Galleon over 75m

Grassland Groove over 75m

Rito Village over Great Plateau Tower

Planet Zebes from the original Super Smash Bros. game over Norfair

Cookie Country from Kirby’s Return to Dreamland over The Great Cave Offensive (the stage that stays true to its name)

Sector Z over Venom

Poké Floats over Kalos Pokémon League

Mute City from Super Smash Bros. Melee over Mute City SNES

Lunar Sanctum from Kid Icarus Uprising over Skyworld

Pac-Maze over Pac-Land

Chemical Plant Zone over Windy Hill Zone

Casino Night Zone over Windy Hill Zone

Hydrocity Zone over Windy Hill Zone
 
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Swore I posted to this thread before, but I guess not. Anyway:
  • Given how very un-Daisy Daisy's moveset ended up being, at this point I feel like I'd rather have given that Echo slot to someone else if making her an identical Peach clone was my only option otherwise. I like Daisy and all, but I'm not a fan of her being just a glorified alt costume. I feel the same way about Richter, but even moreso (which sucks since I like him more than Simon personality-wise).
  • AoC Impa over Sheik. Impa's a constant character throughout tons of Zelda games while Sheik was in like... one canon title and Hyrule Warriors. I get that swapping between Zelda and Impa wouldn't make sense in Melee-Brawl, but yeah.
  • Omega Metroid over Zero Suit Samus.
  • Toad/Waluigi over RosaLuma.
  • Azura over Corrin.
  • Goomba over Piranha Plant.
  • Rex over Pythra.
  • Club Penguin over Sora (though this is less me being dissatisfied with sora and more me really liking club penguin as a kid)
 
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This might be a surprising take, but for Pokémon choices
Lugia over other Legendaries
Galar Pokémon over Paldea Pokémon.
Boltund over Toxtricity (Toxtricity is fun, but Boltund is my main fav Galar Pokémon)
Hattena over Hatterene
Skeledirge over Meowsacarda

Also Incineroar over Meowsacarda
 

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Impa over Sheik with basically same move set. It just works.

Tails over any other Sonic rep considered

Shadow over Piranha Plant

Prince Fluff as next Kirby Character (move set would be awesome!)
 

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A lot of people have suggested candidates for Sonic echoes over the years, and the two more prominent picks that people tend to suggest are usually either Metal Sonic or Shadow. Personally, I'd go for Blaze. Why Blaze? Well...
  • Blaze shares a lot of Sonic's abilities, and her own unique abilities and properties would work really well as minor changes to Sonic's kit. Boost replacing his Side Special, and many of her attacks being imbued with fire - plus her Final Smash having the Sol Emeralds instead of the Chaos Emeralds - would work really well on a basic level. You could also rebalance her slightly to be a little slower and stronger.
    • If you wanted to take it further, I'd suggest replacing the Spin Dash with the Burst Dash, replacing Neutral Air with a sort of variation on Axel Jump, and giving her unique taunt animations and voicelines.
    • That said, unlike Shadow or Metal Sonic where they feel like they would be best represented as an original character, I don't think people would mind Blaze getting the echo treatment.
  • She's also a decently reoccuring character from a more "recent" series, allowing her to represent the Dash series and beyond whilst potentially bringing music from that series to Smash. Coupled with her continual appearances in the Sonic series since then, she's not in a position where she feels arbitrary.
  • A new Sonic character does kind of feel overdue, but including an Echo isn't an unreasonable call when SEGA have so many franchises that would work really well if they were represented here too (mostly Puyo Puyo, but then also stuff like Like a Dragon or Virtua Fighter if they wanted to go that route.)
I think she'd be a cool addition, at least, even if her time has sort of passed in terms of the Rush series' relevance compared to, say, Sm4sh. She'd still be neat as an Echo Fighter, though!
 

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Quoted from another thread:
I’ve been pretty open recently to the idea of Bridget as the Guilty Gear rep of Smash, if for no other reason than A). her increased popularity and B). I mainly want to see if Sakurai’s willing to animate the hypothetical Guilty Gear rep in the style of Strive, right down to both art style and animation style.
 

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I know this is kind of a meme pick, but - while I like the idea of a kart-driving fighter - if I was forced to choose a character to represent Mario Kart with in Smash, I'd choose the blue shell itself - not the blue shell Koopa from the movie, but the winged version of the blue shell. I think the potential moveset using the wings and spikes could be really fun and stylish, and it's kinda strange that they never did anything with the slow-faller-with-fast-air-speed style character after Puff.
 
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OVER THE NEXT GAME

Vaati > any LOZ
All four champions > any single solo = group champion
Paper Mario > Captain Toad > Boo > Waluigi
Meowth/Team Rocket > Eevee > Any Pokemon
Balloon Fighter > Excite Biker > Any Retro
Isaac > any other RPG character
Dragaux > Ring Fit Adventurer


OVER THE GAME AS IT WAS MADE

:ultbayonetta: with a plethora of third party options; lets say Lara Croft for similarity
:ultbyleth: with Dixie
:ultcorrin: with Captain Toad
:ultdoc: with Paper Mario
:ultincineroar: with Eevee
:ultjigglypuff: with Meowth/Team Rocket
:ultlucina: would have been :ultfalco:, Falco would then have been Krystal
:ultroy: would have been Isaac
:ultdarkpit: with Impa Clone
:ultpichu: with Togepi
:ultyounglink: with Tetra
:ultzss: with Bandana Dee
:ultlucas: with Balloon Fighter
:ulttoonlink: with Vaati
:ultvillager: with Tom Nook
:ultrichter: with Bandana Dee as Kirby echo plus arch instead of swallow

and the ones without specifics- would probably have been the four champions.
Yeah, I'd add a lot of Pokemon, Mario, and Zelda.
Who Knew.

Maybe Id rebalance this if I considered missing franchises.
But third parties could easily replace everyone and it be justified.

Id normally have thought Id remove more... but alas.

If I'm removing all of those I could also replace them with.

Dante, Lara Croft, Rayman, Bomberman, Frogger, Nightmare, Scorpion, Agumon, Ezio, Vault Boy... you name it, and plenty more third parties still are fair game in my desire pool.
 
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Veca Gorebyss

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I feel I like can easily say something more snatched.

but.

I've always thought this somehow in back of my mind.

the paper mario Bowser has something of a pleasing look that is much further than that of say. 90s bowser variation. or look. artwork?

pretty cool I finally get to mention it. haha.



 

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BritishGuy54

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Paper Mario over Waluigi and Geno
Noah over Mio
Dr. Eggman over Tails, over Shadow, over Knuckles
 

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For SSB6

Master Chief , over , Sephiroth
Ahri & Lux , over , Banjo & Kazooie
Vault Boy , over , Snake

Iron Valiant , over , Pokemon Trainer
Officer Howard , over , Bayonetta
Noah , & , Mio , over , Shulk
Tabuu , over , Piranha Plant
( AOC ) Impa , over , Sheik
Magolor , over , King DeDeDe
 
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