The Captain Falcon Q&A Thread

[Darxmarth23]

lol i probably know the most about c.falcon on this board (after 2knee, p3 and darx BUT STILL) and im just gonna say that the advice i already gave you is good enough now stop moaning and go play wifail

lol
i don't doubt it though
you know your ****

Pit has a huge advantage to begin with right at the start of the match because of his projectile which he can controll

and he has a tremendous amount of pritority

however we often put pit in places he doesn't want to be in
and we punish pit quite a lot

thats all im gonna say for now

peace

 

[Player-3]

blah blah arrows blah blah more arrows blah blah arrows etc etc

 

[Zeallyx]

65-35. Pit's advantage.

Pit owns falcon, but other characters own falcon even more. (making it 65-35. Pit's advantage.)

 

[Ramzeh]

65-35. Pit's advantage.

Pit owns falcon, but other characters own falcon even more. (making it 65-35. Pit's advantage.)

That's a bad reason.

 

[teluoborg]

Pit can't kill ****.

Else he's a pain in the ***.

And what Darx said.

 

[Darky-Sama]

I actually agree with 2Knee on the ratio.

Pit's options > Falcon's options.
Pit's camping > Falcon's {nonexistant} camping.
Pit's range > Falcon's range.
Pit's priority > Falcon's priority.

There's a few exceptions, but as a TL;DR, that's what we're looking at. Pit is generally better and has the ability to gimp Falcon extremely hard with arrows too. Even though we can gimp him just as hard, it's not nearly as easy getting an edge over Pit as he can over Falcon.

 

[tekkie]

where can i find information about the sheik/zelda matchup? is there a matchup thread with information in it anywhere?

 

[lordhelmet]

where can i find information about the sheik/zelda matchup? is there a matchup thread with information in it anywhere?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=260675

Go to the character specific.

 

[smashkng]

Falcon's grab release to knee on Ness is a true combo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy29lEbUtUs (see ending)

 

[lordhelmet]

Falcon's grab release to knee on Ness is a true combo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy29lEbUtUs (see ending)

Woah, thanks for showing me that xD

I'll check into that later today.

 

[Player-3]

it is helmet

me and p1 tested this all the time

 

[lordhelmet]

it is helmet

me and p1 tested this all the time

Well that saves me work then. Thanks P3, added to the guide.

 

[Darky-Sama]

Nice discovery, guys. Keep up the good work.

 

[Ramzeh]

Like, it's common knowledge and stuff. But when Ally does it, it's new, **** and awesome work.





Ah well.

 

[Darky-Sama]

The grab release on Ness? I haven't seen anything about it before. But I haven't played many good Ness' with Falcon, so I wouldn't know. It's usually just been "I **** them" or "They **** me". Ness is one of the few match-ups with Falcon that I'm lacking any real gimmick knowledge on.

In the sense that I get ***** by a Ness, I just go ZSS and molest their faces with my thighlordz. olol.

 

[eRonin]

Does that work on Lucas as well? The grab release shenanigans affect them equally right?

 

[†Slader7†]

The grab release on Ness was discussed several weeks back by Darx or P3. Its pretty awesome :D

The grab release does not work on Lucas as he tends to escape farther away than Ness.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

The grab release on Ness was discussed several weeks back by Darx or P3. Its pretty awesome :D

The grab release does not work on Lucas as he tends to escape farther away than Ness.

So, I take it that CF has a somewhat MU against Ness over all?

 

[Darky-Sama]

Several weeks ago? It must have been during the time I was inactive because I haven't seen **** about it. Nice work, whoever found it out, though. I actually find that pretty helpful since Ness is a ****.


**** that ***** in the ***, *****.
Yeah.

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

I say we mess with grab release a bit more.

 

[Darky-Sama]

If we can pull off a knee, we can probably pull a Nipple Spike off the ledge.

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

If we can pull off a knee, we can probably pull a Nipple Spike off the ledge.

I guess so. I think the knee has a better chance at killing though.

And since it sends the character horizontally, that means the character will also have to recover horizontally, and falcons horizontal edge guard is better than his vertical one.

Oh, and did we ever have a superlative thread for the end of 2009? When I left I said i would be back for superlative but i didn't really get a chance to be active again.

If not, then i wanna make one.

 

[lordhelmet]

I guess so. I think the knee has a better chance at killing though.

And since it sends the character horizontally, that means the character will also have to recover horizontally, and falcons horizontal edge guard is better than his vertical one.

Oh, and did we ever have a superlative thread for the end of 2009? When I left I said i would be back for superlative but i didn't really get a chance to be active again.

If not, then i wanna make one.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214153

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

That thread was for 2008.

We said we were going to make a new one for 2009.

It never happened.

 

[lordhelmet]

That thread was for 2008.

We said we were going to make a new one for 2009.

It never happened.

o

I didn't check the date. Feel free to make a new one, just try not to attract too many flames

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

o

I didn't check the date. Feel free to make a new one, just try not to attract too many flames

Lol. its gonna attract the opposite of flames

its gonna be LOVE bro.

 

[Darky-Sama]

****ERS, WAKE UP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYfunwOt9FU

After watching this, I think we need to practice more **** against Gaymen Watch.

SH Knee OoS, maybe?

 

[Yung Mei]

super nub comming through

what's OoS?

 

[Darky-Sama]

Out of Shield.

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

I don't think SH knee oos is gonna work well

I don't like holding a sheild against him just because it eats it really fast.

If you get caught in it, SDI.

Im thinkin, if you have a sheild pulled up,

then try to spot dodge and then sheild grab after he's done or something

 

[Yung Mei]

i kinda wanna suggest Rolling behind Gaymanwatch, and follwing up with grab/Tilt/AAA, but it doesnt seem very reliable

 

[lordhelmet]

i kinda wanna suggest Rolling behind Gaymanwatch, and follwing up with grab/Tilt/AAA, but it doesnt seem very reliable

I stopped reading when I saw "rolling" and "suggest" in the same sentence.

 

[Yung Mei]

i said "Kinda" so techincally i didnt suggest :D

 

[eRonin]

I'm thinking f-tilt would have enough range if the GaW spaced well, and be fast enough, but I dunno. I'm a massive scrub

 

[Darky-Sama]

I'm sure Ftilt will work just fine. You have close to a full second before the final hitbox of G&W's attack comes out. Ftilt out of shield should work.

 

[teluoborg]

Ftilt, Nair or Uair OOS.

Btw all the Bairs in this video are poorly spaced.

 

[Makaveli tha Don]

I don't like Oos options here

if you miss the timing then you're ****ed

 

[Player-3]

can't knee him if he spaces it

can uair though
personally i would sh ac dair him b/c it is usually more fresh + refreshes + 16%+ you jump over the landing hit and stomp him in the ground

afaik you can anyways

 

[febs]

is there a cf player finder thread?

 

[lordhelmet]

is there a cf player finder thread?

There was, never got updated.

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