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The Captain Falcon Q&A Thread
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talkingbeatles
Smash Ace
I'd love to see the thread, because I'd have to read it to believe it.
I do pretty well against PTs, but I'm going to be a jerk and just say it's because I'm amazing. I still can't see Falcon having an advantage over them. Maybe Squirtle... possibly Charizard.... but not Ivysaur.
@TalkingBeatles:
"Captain falcon vs Pokemon trainer: Falcon's advantage - indepth" was the title, I searched "Captain Falcon's advantage Pokemon Trainer" and it's the only one. I'm still not gonna read it, cuz I don't really care, but it's there if you want to take a look.
EDIT: Probably should have mentioned this, I used the advanced search and searched title only, but it should still work even if you don't.
"Captain falcon vs Pokemon trainer: Falcon's advantage - indepth" was the title, I searched "Captain Falcon's advantage Pokemon Trainer" and it's the only one. I'm still not gonna read it, cuz I don't really care, but it's there if you want to take a look.
EDIT: Probably should have mentioned this, I used the advanced search and searched title only, but it should still work even if you don't.
UzakiuzuG
Smash Journeyman
=o Nooooooooooooo there might be a hidden falcon in the crowd or is it over?
SoupaSonic
Smash Journeyman
Does anyone know if Falcon has a slight advantage over Wario? It would kind of make sense since they have similar strength, but Captain Falcon has more range, runs faster, and can only kinda be chain thrown. But then again, Wario has faster attack speed right?
Noodlehead
Smash Lord
falcon doesn't have the advantage but the match up isn't that bad. especially since falcon can grab release to knee on wario.
UzakiuzuG
Smash Journeyman
I was wondering what is the best way of approaching from the edge?
Usually my opponents (I will use battlefield as an example) stand on the circles while Im hanging from the edge but they always seem to catch me on my when getting back to the stage.
Should I ...
A)N-air back on to the stage
B)F-Air back to the stage
C)Drop down then jump on the stage
D)U-air on the stage
E)Air dodge back to the stage
F)Roll to the stage
G)Jump (Y button while hanging on the edge)
Usually my opponents (I will use battlefield as an example) stand on the circles while Im hanging from the edge but they always seem to catch me on my when getting back to the stage.
Should I ...
A)N-air back on to the stage
B)F-Air back to the stage
C)Drop down then jump on the stage
D)U-air on the stage
E)Air dodge back to the stage
F)Roll to the stage
G)Jump (Y button while hanging on the edge)
UzakiuzuG
Smash Journeyman
I was wondering what is the best way of approaching from the edge?
Usually my opponents (I will use battlefield as an example) stand on the circles while Im hanging from the edge but they always seem to catch me on my when getting back to the stage.
Should I ...
A)N-air back on to the stage
B)F-Air back to the stage
C)Drop down then jump on the stage
D)U-air on the stage
E)Air dodge back to the stage
F)Roll to the stage
G)Jump (Y button while hanging on the edge)
Also I was wondering is there anyway to edgeguard without jump off the stage and knee to U-air combo.
I was thinking like just U-tilting the edge or D ilt something like that. (I know it's not melee but just wondering if you could.)
Usually my opponents (I will use battlefield as an example) stand on the circles while Im hanging from the edge but they always seem to catch me on my when getting back to the stage.
Should I ...
A)N-air back on to the stage
B)F-Air back to the stage
C)Drop down then jump on the stage
D)U-air on the stage
E)Air dodge back to the stage
F)Roll to the stage
G)Jump (Y button while hanging on the edge)
Also I was wondering is there anyway to edgeguard without jump off the stage and knee to U-air combo.
I was thinking like just U-tilting the edge or D ilt something like that. (I know it's not melee but just wondering if you could.)
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
*double post ^^^
you can try the lethal... forsaken recovery. or you can drop down and b-up on ure opponent. the b-up doesnt grab the ledge if you have the right timing.
you can try the lethal... forsaken recovery. or you can drop down and b-up on ure opponent. the b-up doesnt grab the ledge if you have the right timing.
Skip2MaLoo
Smash Lord
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you can do what I do
ledge hop>wavedash off ledge>double jump>knee
they usually fall for it
ledge hop>wavedash off ledge>double jump>knee
they usually fall for it
lolollollolol
Kishin
Smash Ace
Short hop fast fall D-air pushes enemies back. Possible gimp set-ups?
F5Hazardousdoc
Smash Ace
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Nipple spike. If you hit with the chest, LOTS of horizontal knockback. Its safer to autocancel dair though, its a pretty safe approach.
SoupaSonic
Smash Journeyman
I'd say drop down and jump up really fast then do U-air either back on the stage or back to the ledge... basically what everyone else is saying
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
i just figured out that if mario capes captain falcon twice while he is turning during the falcon punch, captain falcon does a super slide while punching, is this known?
talkingbeatles
Smash Ace
I've got a friend that is just brilliant at this game, and getting back on the stage from the ledge is one of the hardest things to do for me. Forget about getting actually getting to that stage. He makes it tough.
Falcon really has bad options for getting back on stage. fair can be shield grabbed and you can't AC it from the ledge. nair has no priority and will get shield grabbed. If they space right, a roll can just give them a kill. See: roll into fsmash. If they predict your jump, they'll punish that even more easily.
What you're going to have to do is mix it up. Ledge camp a little, try to bait them. If they come close to the ledge, you can sweet spot the knee if they're close enough, (and dumb enough), more then likely you'll be able to Falcon Dive them for the "HYES!". Uair works as does the nipple hit of dair. Sometime a good ole fashioned hit-getup from the ledge will catch them. That's harder to punish then rolling or jumping for a lot of people. Don't rely on the mock waveland with raptor boost. If they can space the rolls, they can space that, and you'll get killed.
Just some more reasons why Falcon is bottom tier, I guess.
Falcon really has bad options for getting back on stage. fair can be shield grabbed and you can't AC it from the ledge. nair has no priority and will get shield grabbed. If they space right, a roll can just give them a kill. See: roll into fsmash. If they predict your jump, they'll punish that even more easily.
What you're going to have to do is mix it up. Ledge camp a little, try to bait them. If they come close to the ledge, you can sweet spot the knee if they're close enough, (and dumb enough), more then likely you'll be able to Falcon Dive them for the "HYES!". Uair works as does the nipple hit of dair. Sometime a good ole fashioned hit-getup from the ledge will catch them. That's harder to punish then rolling or jumping for a lot of people. Don't rely on the mock waveland with raptor boost. If they can space the rolls, they can space that, and you'll get killed.
Just some more reasons why Falcon is bottom tier, I guess.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaardvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark
†Slader7†
Smash Ace
Whats the best way to fight a Sonic with Falcon???
I keep on getting ***** by Sonic mostly due to their speed and Sonic's bair gimps me hard.
I keep on getting ***** by Sonic mostly due to their speed and Sonic's bair gimps me hard.
Noodlehead
Smash Lord
this is from my experience, here some tips
sonic is fast and tricky. jabs stop a lot of sonic's approaches so i suggest you use it an awful lot. i'd say the best way to play sonic is to be defensive so avoid appraoching. you probably should avoid laggy moves cause sonic can easily punish you. well general knowledge but just in case you don't know, never roll back or behind a sonic cause you'll get punished by dsmash, probably. don't try to edgehog either cause you'll probably get stage spiked with fair
sonic is fast and tricky. jabs stop a lot of sonic's approaches so i suggest you use it an awful lot. i'd say the best way to play sonic is to be defensive so avoid appraoching. you probably should avoid laggy moves cause sonic can easily punish you. well general knowledge but just in case you don't know, never roll back or behind a sonic cause you'll get punished by dsmash, probably. don't try to edgehog either cause you'll probably get stage spiked with fair
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Being honest, how many of you try to go for kills when your opponent is within kill %'s? Or do you keep racking damage and let the kill come naturally?
I do the latter. <_< Although I sometimes won't get kills until my opponent is over 200%..
I do the latter. <_< Although I sometimes won't get kills until my opponent is over 200%..
talkingbeatles
Smash Ace
I go for the kill. I use uair, bair, and dsmash. I'll try and throw out I well timed fsmash sometimes.
Oh... and I'm always throwing out Knees. Sweetspotted or no. AC'd knees are your friends.
Oh... and I'm always throwing out Knees. Sweetspotted or no. AC'd knees are your friends.
†Slader7†
Smash Ace
Thank you Noodlehead
@Susa: As for Falcon's killing method, I would go for the kill if the character can be gimp'd. If not, I'll just rack up damage and let it come naturally.
@Susa: As for Falcon's killing method, I would go for the kill if the character can be gimp'd. If not, I'll just rack up damage and let it come naturally.
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
i ussually go for the kill but i end up losing a stock cuz of it 
Noodlehead
Smash Lord
utilt! it's a great killer especially if you both are near the edge of the stage.
nair>utilt is a good way to set it up
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
uptilt ftw
talkingbeatles
Smash Ace
Pssshhh... oh yeah. I completely forgot. I kill with uptilt all the time. That move rocks. I actually got a friend of mine saying at one point, "that uptilt is ridiculous."
I never thought I'd live the day to hear someone call one of Falcons' moves "ridiculous," in a way that didn't connote extreme negativity.
Whoo! Go uptilt!
I never thought I'd live the day to hear someone call one of Falcons' moves "ridiculous," in a way that didn't connote extreme negativity.
Whoo! Go uptilt!
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
its actually got me into maining captain falcon in the first place. i was playing random and i acidently did uptilt and the opponent went flying off the screen! those were the days
F5Hazardousdoc
Smash Ace
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utilt is an amazing move, falcon's should use it alot more.
†Slader7†
Smash Ace
How about ftilt? I think its underrated and should be used more. Your thoughts?
Scipion121212
Smash Apprentice
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interecepting short-hopped attacks when other moves would be too slow and jab with too low range?
HizoSturm
Smash Apprentice
is that supposed to be a question scipion?? complete sentences might help
Sovereign
Game Reaper
I personally use rapid-fire jab to shut down low priority approaches.
i.e. - Falcon Kick, Link's Arrows, Luigi's Cyclone, and other moves.
It's all in preference and playstyle. The Utilt should be Cpt. Falcon's most utitilized move, IMO. It's one of his best spacing options, and is a good kill on stages with short horizontal blast zones, like Battlefield. You can score at minimum a 95% KO with it.
Your thoughts on Utilt and Rapid-fire Jab. I want other opinions.
i.e. - Falcon Kick, Link's Arrows, Luigi's Cyclone, and other moves.
It's all in preference and playstyle. The Utilt should be Cpt. Falcon's most utitilized move, IMO. It's one of his best spacing options, and is a good kill on stages with short horizontal blast zones, like Battlefield. You can score at minimum a 95% KO with it.
Your thoughts on Utilt and Rapid-fire Jab. I want other opinions.
talkingbeatles
Smash Ace
Keep in mind, that's if they don't DI.
Luigi's cyclone is hard to deal with. I generally try to dtilt it.
And slader,
the only time I really ever ftilt is by accident. I'm not a fan.
Luigi's cyclone is hard to deal with. I generally try to dtilt it.
And slader,
the only time I really ever ftilt is by accident. I'm not a fan.
Noodlehead
Smash Lord
i think there is a way to cancel falcon kick's lag into a roll out animation while kicking toward the stage. similar to ganon's roll out animation. when you stand near the ledge with one foot off the stage with ganon you can create a roll out animation. you can buffer a jump during the roll out animation. i didn't think this was possible with falcon but i somehow did it with falcon. this is kicking toward the stage not off. this could be useful, it makes falcon kick harder to punish and can setup combos
edit: you do not go off stage nor does it involve platforms
edit: you do not go off stage nor does it involve platforms
Kishin
Smash Ace
I somehow made Falcon do a super jump in midair like Ganon after being hit by either pikachu's down-b, F-smash, or neutral b. I just remembered a lightning sound and saw the super jump. Nothing too helpful but good to keep note of.