TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT

[Sieguest]

where do you find those pics?

Photobucket ftw x.x

Now I really have to get to sleep x.x
nights...

 

[REL38]

well those aspects are legit, but he was going off the actual descriptions, which are all B-S

But that more so matters when discussing canon from gameplay.

Gameplay-wise, Pikachu is able to surf, fly (lolwut), create a beam of destruction and attack at blinding speeds.
Realistically, none of this is possible.

The PokéDex is seen as the "scientific" entries for Pokémon by canon.
It's fully legit when we're looking at this in a realistic level.

Ex. Charizard can't melt boulders
Realistically improbable and Rock type being resistent to Fire type is a redundant point when Charizard can't melt rocks to begin with


I don't see why it cannot be used.


@Marthage
You continually said electricity can be condensed to extreme even levels that Pika's will be beyond lethal.
Organic matter can only hold a set amount of energy.

Electricity being one of them.
Too much kills, even if certain organs are made to store it (limitations exist)
You're saying Pika's cheeks will hold extreme amounts of tightly condensed electricity to the point that discharge will kill beings many its size.

I've also gotten the vibe that you've been suggesting that said electricity is at a constant flow in those cheeks.
I find that extremely unlikely.

I'd still like to know exactly how it's "stored" and "made" (as you've made no concrete method of it being internally created)

















You act like Pika is a literal generator that shocks stuff
>.<

Spoiler

jk loooooooooooooooooooooooool
lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

@JOE

Did you srsly just change the match!?
>______________>

 

[JOE!]

Im just stating it as a general rule if you are gonna use descriptions...BECAUSE of things like charizard melting boulders/etc

 

[REL38]

Im just stating it as a general rule if you are gonna use descriptions...BECAUSE of things like charizard melting boulders/etc

I still don't see that as a justified reason though as we consider gameplay, canon and realism which all create contradictions.

I still see the PokéDex as legit info, but it will be skewed by realism.
As telekinesis is proven false by realism for Mewtwo.

Edit:
To better put it, an Ivysaur PokéDex entry says its bulb begins to smell great when it is ready to bloom.
I can use that to justify its bulb being at a constant gross smell prior to bloom to explain evolutionary aspects.


Can't believe you ended the match
>_____________>

 

[Lucario1337]

Ice climbers win. they got hammers. theres two of them Lucas is just one meak little kid.

 

[Nova9000]

@ Guest
Thank you. I'll be glad to read your post on it.

@ MU
ICs all day.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

1) i stopped reading after you used Pika's pokedex entry as a source.

Nice douchey smartass attempt but apply some logic to it.

Q.Now why would I base it off the description of Pikachu?

A. To give somewhere to start from...

Pikachu uses electricity is not enough of a basis. When discussing the logical feasability of such a thing happening there are literally Infinite ways we could go about this.

It could have large quantities of Iron in it's teeth and use them as electrodes. It could use it's body as a defacto lightning rod and pull thunder from the sky. It could transmit electricity through the ground and kill anything standing on it. It could have rubbery mitochondria rich skin surrounded by a layer of mucus and pulse energy through it's body causing it to vibrate at such an alarming rate your eyes wouldn't be able to focus on it making it invisible. I could go on, all of these things are theoretically possible in an animal. If we start with no basis this is no longer even a discussion on a Pikachu. It is just "An electric thing" and possibly not even that. To make this thread work you start with what the game portrays then you challenge and question these things to see if they would actually work. With only a single indication as to how Pikachu uses electricity I began with that as the theory of how a creature could generate electricity.

I begin with the simple basis that Pikachu uses "Electric sacs that generate electricity when disturbed" if you have a problem with that because "It's just what the game says" then I say to you that logically Pikachu could if not limited in any way as to how his electricity works theoretically contain enough force and power to destroy the sun and should win all matchups.

Or we could go with sacs.

I'm not going to use something from the description that doesn't make sense or work. But anything from the game that would work is assumed to be the case. I'm sure if we all discussed it for ages we might be able to come up with some way that Pikachu could theoretically shoot lasers out of his eyes but we won't because the game says Pikachu is an electric pokemon so we either go with "This is correct because..." or "This is wrong because..." or maybe inr are cases "This is wrong because...BUT if he...instead of...he could still produce the same end result so maybe that should be what he does" and not just whatever we feel like. You can't apply the no game descriptions rule without a massive double standard being created.

2) What the hell is an electricity sac? Elecrtic eels use special MUSCLES that are used to create a charge, much like a battery, along it's body, and then they dispell it.

I already explained this in the post seeing as you didn't get it I'm going to have to take you through it in an extremely slow and patronising way.

We began with electricity sacs that "generate electricity when disturbed" What does this mean? Well it means that Pikachu first of all does not constantly generate electricity.

This suggests that the electricity produced is static in nature, produced by movement rather than any other method.

Here is where the theory begins...I guess that inside these sacs are a vast number of rigid protrusions which rub against one another if the sac is stimulated, this motion produces a build up of static electricity.

Here is where the OMG No Power factor comes in.

You'd be right in thinking that staic electricity doesn't really make noticable sparks or hurt particularly much but, if there were a vast multitude of these sacs, positioned throughout Pikachu's skeletal muscle then a large charge could be generated.

These sacs can be tiny, teeny weeny. He easily has enough room in his body to be packing enough to generate killing power in his Electricity.

I'm not talking about Electric eels though am I?

3) The mucus could work, but it would never arc through the air.

It wouldn't arc through the Air Pikachu's electric shock would be more like an electric shield it wouldn't extend very far around Pikachu at all. I have already mentioned this. It however would have a little more range then "On Touch"

@Nova I didn't bother quoting and directly responding to your post because some of them I had already answered before you made it 1 or perhaps 2 of them were answered by Guest and the rest were simply explained within this post without actually referencing you.

Some not stupid stuff

Thank you.

 

[JOE!]

Xiao is like the new old version of HOLOpaw....


anyways, why are you complaining about a MU that was over 2 MUs ago, Rel?


EDIT:

also Xiao, NO, THERE ARE NOT INFINITE POSSIBILITIES TO THE WAY PIKA COULD BIOLOGICALLY USE ELECTRICITY!

You said he coudl have IRON TEETH TO CONDUCT IT?! seriously, what the hell?!

I shouldnt have to explain what's wrong with that, but first off he likley wouldnt be able to feed as the iron teeth interfere with chewing, second off, if they did work as electrical conductors he would likley shock himself to death. it'd be the same scene as when a mouse chews through a power-cable.

 

[Nova9000]

Nice douchey smartass attempt but apply some logic to it.

You should really learn not to take things so personal. Just because we don't agree with your reasoning doesn't justify name-calling. And if you read the posts he made after that one, he justified why it's not too credible outside of the actual size of the pokemon. There are so many things that the pokedex information says that wouldn't work in real life. Just to run it down to you:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Jigglypuff_(Pokémon)#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries_2

But Jigglypuff was proven not to have any lungs therefore it cannot inflate itself nor sing.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Charizard_(Pokémon)#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries_2

But we disproved Charizard having the ability to shoot flame from its mouth and not harm itself. We also disproved him actually having the ability to fly.

You should try to understand where we're coming from rather than rebuttal obnoxiously.

Q.Now why would I base it off the description of Pikachu?

A. To give somewhere to start from...

Pikachu uses electricity is not enough of a basis. When discussing the logical feasability of such a thing happening there are literally Infinite ways we could go about this.

This is only true in theory. While I agree saying Pika uses electricity isn't enough of a basis, there are not too many ways to go about it logically. For example, we accepted that Yoshi and Sonic could both be bipedal like they appear in their game. But how? How when Yoshi's head is as big as his entire body and having the scarcity of neck that he has? Or how whan Sonic also has a head full of spines that completely make up over half his body and his limbs are so thin with little neck to support it? They both cannot be explained logically so they are accepted as gameplay mechanics only.

It could have large quantities of Iron in it's teeth and use them as electrodes. It could use it's body as a defacto lightning rod and pull thunder from the sky. It could transmit electricity through the ground and kill anything standing on it. It could have rubbery mitochondria rich skin surrounded by a layer of mucus and pulse energy through it's body causing it to vibrate at such an alarming rate your eyes wouldn't be able to focus on it making it invisible. I could go on, all of these things are theoretically possible in an animal.

This is what I meant. I could say Yoshi has a very light head and a strong neck but no evidence supports it. I could say Yoshi could throw and lay eggs, breathe fire, fly and stomp mini-quakes, but that doesn't happen in RL. Sonic could have the ability to tuck his spines on his head and extend the ones on his back to balance himself, but that isn't possible for any hedgehog. I could say Sonic could harness a sword, curl and roll into a ball at high speeds, and become invincible, but in RL none of these things are possible. Reality is the ultimate nerf for some characters and traits of characters and Pikachu would fall under here if you were to justify his electricity in this manner. Again, I know you were saying all of these as an example to get your point across, but just take it from me; you need to prove a lot of stuff before you make that claim.


If we start with no basis this is no longer even a discussion on a Pikachu. It is just "An electric thing" and possibly not even that. To make this thread work you start with what the game portrays then you challenge and question these things to see if they would actually work. With only a single indication as to how Pikachu uses electricity I began with that as the theory of how a creature could generate electricity.

OP says all of this. We recognize that. We also realize what is feasible in RL and what isn't. Mice exist in RL, but the electricity part doesn't. So you should start from the mice and seek to apply how one could use it in real life.

I begin with the simple basis that Pikachu uses "Electric sacs that generate electricity when disturbed" if you have a problem with that because "It's just what the game says" then I say to you that logically Pikachu could if not limited in any way as to how his electricity works theoretically contain enough force and power to destroy the sun and should win all matchups.

Or we could go with sacs.

1. Everything REL said.

Spoiler

~desu

2. Pika is only 1'04" and 13.2 lbs. For his size alone him creating a current that is strong enough to kill Diddy is unrealistic. Diddy is also biger than Pika and has what it takes to kill him with a Full Nelson.
3. Pika doesn't have the body parts needed to create and manage electricity as well as the Pokemon series suggests. He also seems rather obese to be a rat based pokemon. Can he even be as agile as an ordinary rat due to his front paws? His hind legs seem big enough but this agility thing isn't so clear.
4. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pikachu_(Pokémon)#Special_abilities
According to this, Pika has to pinch his cheeks to emit electricity. He also has to keep his tail grounded periodically to keep the buildup of electricity from short circuiting. And his cheeks have glands that secrete the electricity.Now, all of that means that-Pika's cheeks are like batteries.

Read #4. Bulbapedia is more credible than just the pokedex. This also proves that the source of Pika's power is from inside him. Also note that it indirectly proves Pika has a finite amount of power and cannot control his body and how it produces electricity. To put it in a metaphorical sense it's like the hair on our head. All it is is dead skin cells and we cannot control it from growing, just like Pika's electricity. But we can control how much we can tolerate (hair cut), like Pika using it's tail to prevent short circuiting.


I'm not going to use something from the description that doesn't make sense or work. But anything from the game that would work is assumed to be the case. I'm sure if we all discussed it for ages we might be able to come up with some way that Pikachu could theoretically shoot lasers out of his eyes but we won't because the game says Pikachu is an electric pokemon so we either go with "This is correct because..." or "This is wrong because..." or maybe inr are cases "This is wrong because...BUT if he...instead of...he could still produce the same end result so maybe that should be what he does" and not just whatever we feel like. You can't apply the no game descriptions rule without a massive double standard being created.

This was Rd. 4.5 lol. One side felt as though they provided enough proof and the other side dismissed it and nothing really became of it. But anyway, there really isn't a double standard in this scenario. The standard is real life. What translates from the game into real life is what we use (and try to in a non-biased format). That is our standard. Now, for a few characters, it worked out. Others weren't so lucky; look at the retirees. Pika's powers are under this category until someone proves them to be real.


I already explained this in the post seeing as you didn't get it I'm going to have to take you through it in an extremely slow and patronising (patronizing) way.

We began with electricity sacs that "generate electricity when disturbed" What does this mean? Well it means that Pikachu first of all does not constantly generate electricity.

This suggests that the electricity produced is static in nature, produced by movement rather than any other method.

I addressed why this isn't plausible already (bolded part). So so far, my opinion is contradicting yours. I have a link justifying my idea, and you have the pokedex data to justify yours.

Here is where the theory begins...I guess that inside these sacs are a vast number of rigid protrusions which rub against one another if the sac is stimulated, this motion produces a build up of static electricity.

Here is where the OMG No Power factor comes in.

You'd be right in thinking that staic electricity doesn't really make noticable sparks or hurt particularly much but, if there were a vast multitude of these sacs, positioned throughout Pikachu's skeletal muscle then a large charge could be generated.

These sacs can be tiny, teeny weeny. He easily has enough room in his body to be packing enough to generate killing power in his Electricity.

I'm not talking about Electric eels though am I?

Most of this had me . Static electricity can be found in a few ways. The only two I can think of tht would apply here would be by contact and by charge. If we go with the first one, then what you're saying is that his cheeks do this regardless. But what if Pika is chewing? He emits electricity while chewing? How about talking? Also, this kind of electricity is like clothes in a dryer. They cling to each other and cause static sometimes. But this entails the trade off of electrons to do so and requires different types of elements present. His cheeks would all contain the same elements so this couldn't happen. Besides, if this was so then we could shock ourselves by snapping our fingers, clapping our hands, ect.

Now if you want to base this theory off of charge, then you also have another problem. What is the conductor in his cheeks? He has no conductor in his cheek at all. So there is no way to get a charge in doing so, and nothing is produced. The only way this could happen is with an electrolyte. And with that I quote myself again and Beren:

Entertaining the idea, this would mean Pika would have a finite amount of electricity. Due to his size, we can imagine that is not very much. ATP is constantly breaking down and being converted into energy to create heat which becomes electricity when pressure is put upon his cheeks. Going along with that, Pika would have to produce a lot more energy than a normal rat would just to keep up to par ATP wise. And as a rule of thumb on batteries, the available capacity is dependent on the rate of discharge. In other words, Pika creating electricity would require a nice bit of juice, resulting in a quick loss of power in its cheeks from creating a spark.
And take a look at rechargable batteries. They lose their power rather quickly and degenerate over time. Since Pika is an evolved form of Pichu, it is possible for those cheeks to lose the capacity to hold a charge. This would explain why Pichu can give out higher unintentional charges of electricity in the Pokemon series and in Melee. To prevent that, they would have to reside in colder places. Rodents don't like the cold, so that seems like a no go. Also, since ions are being distributed and not and liquid, and the cheeks are part of the bloodstream, guess what the electrolytes in Pika's blood are going to do? Beren already referred to this before but any of the electrolytes can alter the charge (sodium, potassium, calcium, ect.) and cause problems for Pika (short circuit?) And we need those nutrients to survive, so they will always be in its bloodstream. In short, the battery idea isn't plausible due to the lack of capacity, lack of space in its body, and the blood interfreing with its cheeks.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8627677&postcount=11144

If all of this happens then Pika fries itself. Point blank.


It wouldn't arc through the Air Pikachu's electric shock would be more like an electric shield it wouldn't extend very far around Pikachu at all. I have already mentioned this. It however would have a little more range then "On Touch"



@Nova I didn't bother quoting and directly responding to your post because some of them I had already answered before you made it 1 or perhaps 2 of them were answered by Guest and the rest were simply explained within this post without actually referencing you.

Actually, I have more questions that you have to answer now.

Thank you.

It's a long read, but this is my final attempt to disprove your idea. If you have a rebuttal just put it in my profile since JOE! wants to move on from here.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

also Xiao, NO, THERE ARE NOT INFINITE POSSIBILITIES TO THE WAY PIKA COULD BIOLOGICALLY USE ELECTRICITY!

You said he coudl have IRON TEETH TO CONDUCT IT?! seriously, what the hell?!

I shouldnt have to explain what's wrong with that, but first off he likley wouldnt be able to feed as the iron teeth interfere with chewing, second off, if they did work as electrical conductors he would likley shock himself to death. it'd be the same scene as when a mouse chews through a power-cable.

No not infinite that was merely a turn of phrase. But there are far far more then we could ever discuss in this thread.

Not Iron Teeth. Iron in the teeth. Remember that Iron is just a mineral found in the body. He could have it in his teeth. Many creatures survive by feeding off the minerals in the rocks and soil and this is another reason why something could have sufficient quantities of Iron in it's teeth.

It is possible to make a lightning bolt ball out of electrodes, electricity, isolation and water. He could use teeth with small quantities of iron, (And it wouldn't have to be much) saliva and if he had rubbery skin like I mentioned it could allow the isolation. Remember this was a response to the situation where we aren't going off anything the game tells us but just think of everything that's possible.

@Nova as you requested I'm not gonna give a full reply here, but I will mention that I'm spelling the word patronising differently because I'm not American.

 

[Sieguest]

ALL RIGHT!

1. The electricity-
So we went over the ATP and Hydrolysis correct?
Now to expand on it.
The break down of ATP leaves ADP+Energy
That energy is used for bodily processes
Pikachu's electricity, being as a method of life and survival is a bodily process, as such the energy from the breakdown of ATP may be used for the energy for electricity.
Seeing as how throughout the body the building up and breaking down of ATP is always taking place, the availability of the electricity is taken care of. Space is not a question either, atoms are minuscule and yet powerful. You could fit a mole of atoms on the tip of a pin needle., think of how many would go in the cheek, comprising energy.

2. Discharge-
Rubber is a natural insulator
Beings have abundant amounts of carbon and hydrodgen in their bodies and with the topic of specialization in organisms rubber is plausibly formed is commonly formed. This natural insulator may protect Pika from shock in the storage and allow for an effective and powerful shock due to the properties of the type of dielectric that Rubber is. With this, Pika can still deliver a shock with plenty of strength and prevent shock/loss to itself. Also 500v isn't too bad.

Now for the easy part.
I all ready proved against myself that static is a mute point

Cheeks are away from many vital organs the rubber, with the type of dielectric it is protects the few close organs.

Rate of Discharge- An eel does not release electricity concentrated at one spot, due to this, few electrons flow through any one area at any given time, therefore the Amperage is low. An eel has no need for a concentrated burst therefore, it's not built that way.
Pika's delivery system is different in that it IS concentrated, more electrons moving through a given spot at one time, therefore more amperage. Of course rubber, working against Pika at this point, lowers the amperage some, but not by too much, more than likely two-three amperes. (a drop of 1000 or 1500w). Still as such, it's an killing shock. (2000 or 1500w) which brings me to another point, it's not 2000v it's 2000w
if it was like 3000v then that's saying 3000v x 4amp= 12000w (and that's ridiculous)
>___> I just saved you from overkill

And you're ignoring an evolutionary development that if something adapts to use of electricity as like pika, it must develop effective means to produce and store. That was the main thing covered in the small evolutionary spiel Sam and I had earlier in this MU.

@low kick- pika can jump. jump to cheek ****...

@throwing stuff- falls under same category as orange grenades...terrorist attack or GTFO.

@Guitar- Pika has surfboard get at him....

will edit as I review...

Jasmine support lol

ATP construction and destruction happens throughout the body,

Although it may produce small amounts, so many of these reactions occur that it all adds...up and

A mole is a lot- Don't know where in the world you think it isn't, that's basic chemistry.
got some, didn't like it and returned it...

EDIT: Oh and the energy produced from the ATP is what's used...

You're overexaggerating Pika's electricity AGAIN....

it's 500v times at 6 amperes to 3000w and we said that the natural insulator may cut it down to 4 amps being now at 2000w
even taking what beren just said could be higher, but I won't go there...yet...

volts and watts are not the same, stop confusing them...
it's only 500volts.

I'll cover more tomorrow...it's a school night...>___>
watts and voltage are not the same.

These are some of the big ones, make note that as I've looked at the dielectric table again, I've changed to C5H8 (Rubber) this has affected the values some...but not by a margin to take it out of kill range.

There you go Nova...



@REL's earlier post- read the quote about ATP. Also make note of an animal's biochemistry.

EDIT: Took out an unimportant part from one of the quotes x.x

 

[tocador]

Lucas is blond.

/MU

 

[Sieguest]

This long cessation of posting has me thinking that someone is writing a dissertation over the graveyard MU x.x

k-raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

 

[JOE!]

@Xiao's post:

everything you said is correct, but the amounts of the things you mentioned needed for the effectes to work/be significant would be impossible for pika to attain within himself for the elec to work in those ways

 

[Nova9000]

So....the two eskimoes beat the kid with the Jimmy Neutron hair it seems....

Next MU!

Spoiler

We only have two left anyway...
Me thinks Ike v. Link, where every1 hops on Link until Paya/Adum come and convince everyone otherwise...

 

[rPSIvysaur]

None of you guys even know what Lucas is capable of.

 

[Nova9000]

None of you guys even know what Lucas is capable of.

Then elaborate then. What can Lucas do?

 

[UncleSam]

These are some of the big ones, make note that as I've looked at the dielectric table again, I've changed to C5H8 (Rubber) this has affected the values some...but not by a margin to take it out of kill range.

There you go Nova...

I told you...
but did you listen b4?
nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[JOE!]

Rocket, remember that Lucas has no access to his PSI here...

 

[rPSIvysaur]

What!?!

10DislikesThisThread

 

[UncleSam]

unless you can prove unnatural phenomenon's initiated by our brains exists RL then no.

 

[JOE!]

What!?!

10DislikesThisThread

well, did you read the OP at all?

this thread brings teh characters to reality to see if they could work under real life conditions, and who would be deadliest, like the show "Deadliest Warrior"

 

[BurnBurn]

Given lucas has no PSI, he's just a little normal kid now
and it's 2 VS 1, ice climbers have freakin hammers

 

[JOE!]

DId lucas have bombs like ness does?

 

[tocador]

I think so

 

[Nova9000]

He did? Because to be honest I thought he only had a big stick, but maybe I missed something.

 

[REL38]

DId lucas have bombs like ness does?

Yes, he does.

As well as something called the New Year's Eve Bomb.
As in, really really big.

As well as a yo-yo . . . .
And a scepter . . . .
And a construction hat . . . .
And a cape . . . .
And a mace . . . .

 

[Xiahou Dun]

@Xiao's post:

everything you said is correct, but the amounts of the things you mentioned needed for the effectes to work/be significant would be impossible for pika to attain within himself for the elec to work in those ways

It would definately not be impossible to attain but as with anything concerning a Theory of aproposed evolution path whether it is too unlikely to attain is entirely a subjective matter with no rhyme or reason able to given to the answer.

Though it cannot be called impossible to attain. It is impossible to debate whether something is or isn't likely enough to happen to be considered on the matter, therefore as Thread host I am happy for the final call on whether something is likely enough to be in your hands.

I as ever will only explain what could happen, not what should. I have explained it to be possible as was my only goal. I did not seek to show it likely.

As for PSI I am unfamiliar with the MOTHER series is Lucas portrayed to have Mind Reading powers in it? Most of the Psychic style abilities have no grounding however knowing the thoughts of another is indeed possible.

 

[Nova9000]

Yes, he does.

As well as something called the New Year's Eve Bomb.
As in, really really big.

As well as a yo-yo . . . .
And a scepter . . . .
And a construction hat . . . .
And a cape . . . .
And a mace . . . .

When did he get all of these?

 

[REL38]

When did he get all of these?

You act like RPG's don't have random lolwut items
>.<
couldn't resist


He also has a bat . . . .
And bug spray . . . .
And an alligator hat . . . .
And a Draco Fang . . . .
And a Knit Sweater . . . .

http://walkthrough.starmen.net/mother3/itemlist_full.php

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Mother_3/Weapons

 

[BurnBurn]

Huh, well since Lucas has the new years bomb, it could blow the ice climbers out, because in real life, a bomb doesn't just blow you down to 1 hp, it kills you.

 

[Nova9000]

You act like RPG's don't have random lolwut items
>.<
couldn't resist


He also has a bat . . . .
And bug spray . . . .
And an alligator hat . . . .
And a Draco Fang . . . .
And a Knit Sweater . . . .

http://walkthrough.starmen.net/mother3/itemlist_full.php

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Mother_3/Weapons

You act as if you couldn't say this in Rd. 1 or at least 4.5.

 

[REL38]

You act as if you couldn't say this in Rd. 1 or at least 4.5.

You act like I actively participated in Rd. 1 or particularly cared in 4.676379
>.<


@Xia

I don't recall Lucas having any mind reading powers.
It was more so telekinetic assaults, counters/barriers and healing.

 

[Nova9000]

You act like I actively participated in Rd. 1 or particularly cared in 4.676379
>.<


@Xia

I don't recall Lucas having any mind reading powers.
It was more so telekinetic assaults, counters/barriers and healing.

You act as if I was involved in this thread at all in Rd. 1. I started in Rd. 2.
And we know the MU you cared about in 4.pi
You act as if Lucas was a winner before this discovery.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

@Xia

I don't recall Lucas having any mind reading powers.
It was more so telekinetic assaults, counters/barriers and healing.

Ah well then he's pretty screwed.

I suppose Healing is feasible but in a sort of "Wounds that should take weeks to heal will be recovered in a few days" way. Nothing that would actually help him win a fight. He just might be able to patch himself up after he gets wrecked.

 

[REL38]

You act as if I was involved in this thread at all in Rd. 1. I started in Rd. 2.
And we know the MU you cared about in 4.pi
You act as if Lucas was a winner before this discovery.

You act like Payas is the only one who can pull out random items just to boost random characters
>.<


Lucas has bombs, a giant firework thing, a baseball bat, a mace, a stabbing weapon and bug spray.

A good combination of these things is more than enough to take down ****** kids.

 

[Nova9000]

You act like Payas is the only one who can pull out random items just to boost random characters
>.<


Lucas has bombs, a giant firework thing, a baseball bat, a mace, a stabbing weapon and bug spray.

A good combination of these things is more than enough to take down ****** kids.

You act as if you're Paya 2.0.
You act as if you waited til ICs fought him to pull this out.
You act like ICs can't ~*Believe*~!.
You're doing a lot of acting BTW lol.

 

[REL38]

You act as if you're Paya 2.0.
You act as if you waited til ICs fought him to pull this out.
You act like ICs can't ~*Believe*~!.
You're doing a lot of acting BTW lol.

What good is believing if you know you can't be the very best?
Like no one ever was?


To beat them is an easy test
No training will help their cause

They will battle across the land
Losing far and wide

Each match-up to understand
Their failure that's inside~


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
It's you and me~

They know it's their destiny!

Ice Climbers!

~Ohh!
Their each other's friend
Bottom Tier throughout the thread!


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
A fail so true~

Team work won't pull them through!

You fight them and they'll lose to you!


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
Gonna lose em' all~

Ice Climbers!





I rest my case.
Lucas wins ~desu

 

[JOE!]

I think Rel won the MU....

 

[Sieguest]

What good is believing if you know you can't be the very best?
Like no one ever was?


To beat them is an easy test
No training will help their cause

They will battle across the land
Losing far and wide

Each match-up to understand
Their failure that's inside~


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
It's you and me~

They know it's their destiny!

Ice Climbers!

~Ohh!
Their each other's friend
Bottom Tier throughout the thread!


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
A fail so true~

Team work won't pull them through!

You fight them and they'll lose to you!


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
Gonna lose em' all~

Ice Climbers!





I rest my case.
Lucas wins ~desu

OH SHI-

Can't fight that logic....

GG ICs