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TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT

UncleSam

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What good is believing if you know you can't be the very best?
Like no one ever was?


To beat them is an easy test
No training will help their cause

They will battle across the land
Losing far and wide

Each match-up to understand
Their failure that's inside~


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
It's you and me~

They know it's their destiny!

Ice Climbers!

~Ohh!
Their each other's friend
Bottom Tier throughout the thread!


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
A fail so true~

Team work won't pull them through!

You fight them and they'll lose to you!


Ice Climbers!
(gonna lose em')
Gonna lose em' all~


Ice Climbers!





I rest my case.
Lucas wins ~desu
that was bad and you should feel bad.
we all know videos are the answer to epic synopsis'.
find Lain getting 3 stocked.
oh wait that doesn't happen.
 

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oh so back to pikachu...
I've been looking and it pikachu's electricity doesn't have to be such a complicated process.
electricity is a bi-product of some chemical reactions.
and what has been stated before heat is needed to get electricity to extent to be arced through a non-conductor.
also creating stronger bonds gives off more energy.
It could be possible for pikachu's DNA to have the info to create enzymes + whatever material it needs for the reaction to occur.
 

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but ganon doesnt have a teammate...
Does Ray count? He seems to follow Ganon around all the time and both fail in many ways. :laugh:

that was bad and you should feel bad.
we all know videos are the answer to epic synopsis'.
find Lain getting 3 stocked.
oh wait that doesn't happen.

That was epic. Don't be a tyrant, man.



Your dad still rules, and so do you.


oh so back to pikachu...
I've been looking and it pikachu's electricity doesn't have to be such a complicated process.
electricity is a bi-product of some chemical reactions.
and what has been stated before heat is needed to get electricity to extent to be arced through a non-conductor.
also creating stronger bonds gives off more energy.
It could be possible for pikachu's DNA to have the info to create enzymes + whatever material it needs for the reaction to occur.


Joining the family business I see...
But anyway I have to look into that a bit more. Guest and I are discussing it now.
 

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Oh
I'm sorry

I wasn't aware Competitive Brawl ran in correlation with Realism

Out of context much?


Also
Lucas won
He's got more weaponry to work with.
I was saying use a video.
I wasn't contributing,remember Diddy vs. MK? ~desu
EDIT: oops I think I made pikachu broken. If you're Guest or Nova you should know what I'm talking about lol
 

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well, his charge is still limited by his size..

and he will have range issues due to air not being as friendly as brackish water when it comes to dispelling current..

taht and Ivy is still a better poke, wouldnt call him broken :p
 

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well, his charge is still limited by his size..

and he will have range issues due to air not being as friendly as brackish water when it comes to dispelling current..

taht and Ivy is still a better poke, wouldnt call him broken :p
You havent seen the convo yet JOE. I decided to end it with one clean stroke, and succeeded, that and Nova gave up lol.

and rel, pic > song
 

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You havent seen the convo yet JOE. I decided to end it with one clean stroke, and succeeded, that and Nova gave up lol.

and rel, pic > song
After going back with Guest all week about it, I get tired of reading. And then US enters during a weakened state. Add tht I'm sick, and I surrendered to US and Guest. SO you two can bring the ideas to every1 else. It matters not to I as long as Ivy beats him ;).
 

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That's for you US. Have fun with your 1 inch thunder mouse.

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Paste this in your SWF browser, replace the sad face with : and ( and press enter...lol...
 

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not 1 inch, 1 foot, and 13lbs...

he is still dwarfed by all his opponenets so far except when he fought MK
 

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i still ponder how big of a shock he could possibly produc,e as the lethal voltages made by eels take up their entire body, along with them being substantaially bigger than pikachu
 

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i still ponder how big of a shock he could possibly produc,e as the lethal voltages made by eels take up their entire body, along with them being substantaially bigger than pikachu
Eels lack sufficient amperage though, unlike Pika.
 

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ok, how big of a shock can pika produce however?

and what if he wastes it trying to "reach out"?
 

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In reality, Falco would hands down win with his Laser Pistol, the reason is obvious, Lasers are refracted light through a crystal or glass tube that are focused into a single narrow beam. :aser stands for, Light Amplification through Stimulated Emission of Radiation, hence, LASER. The first part, Light, should already tell you how fast the energy will travel, and the Amplification is the focusing of the light into a single beam by using a crystal or glass tube (usually the latter), and the Stimulated Emission of Radiation is just the fact that laser is being radiated from it's source rather than shot. The only way Falco's Pistol would work like it does would be by using a kind of pulsing chamber door, but in order for that to work it would take something we don't currently have to make it simulate a laser bullet. Even so, The fact that it uses a kind of destructive laser already puts Captain Falcon in a terrible situation.

Captain Falcon's main advantage is ground speed, as in he runs faster than Falco, height actually can affect speed because the length of your legs affects how far that they can articulate before being forced to stop. So, unless Falco shuffle runs like a demon, he isn't going to catch C. Falcon on foot. It is also obvious that, like Falco's, Falcon's legs are powerful simple machines, both of them also show great speed in combat, and a good prowess with their individual fighting styles.

If it came down to hand-to-hand, I think it would be a stalemate, as they are good physical combatants, but the futuristic tech in a no-holds-barred kind of fight gives Falco a definate edge over Falcon.

Unfortunately for Falcon, It takes more to kill a man with your fists and feet than it does a weapon like Falco's Laser Pistol and defensive weapon, his Reflector, to kill with. Falco wins this by technical advantage.

He would have to get in quickly while dodging around Falco's aim then take him out with a OHK (One-Hit-Kill) if he hoped to survive, else he would get a laser straight through the heart muscle or his brain.


too much bro, too much
 

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Well getting to the MU, Link arrows **** Ike.

This is where Paya comes in and tells me how wrong I am lol.
 

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ok, how big of a shock can pika produce however?

and what if he wastes it trying to "reach out"?
you're still talking like there is a finite amount of electricity Pikachu can produce.
Arcs don't reach out unless there is no second conductor. which there obviously is in this case (pikachu's opponents).
and it's not like you can dodge it.

brb with my PM posts


Nova9000 said:
UncleSam said:
Nova9000 said:
UncleSam said:
Alright you guys.
as I just said in the thread, chemical reactions can take the place of ATP.
I'm just throwing it out there if it isn't effective we can go back.
Now the most abundant element that gives off the greatest amount of energy through chemical processes is nitrogen which is a natural element in the body. It is also in the air so small amounts can be inhaled.
take this table: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_bond#Strong_chemical_bonds
Nitrogens double bond N=N(which happens frequently btw) generates almost 1000 KJ/mol of energy.
activating this is easy, DNA creates proteins/enzymes which help the body (derp) Pikachu's DNA could have the ability to create enzymes that stay in the cheeks and initiate processes when squeezed.
Next, the chemical processes that convert energy to electricity (bear with me here still looking into this) heat is generated, whether this is enough to do this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc
I'm not sure yet.
Hmm...you may be on to something. But Nitrogen bonds are triple bonded, and the more bonds, the more energy released. Now, they happen often but dik if this occurs in the body often. Most of the time nitrogen is found in feces anyway. Also, would enzymes work in that matter?

enzymes force/break chemical bonds without the insane amount of energy needed to do naturally, without enzymes we'd all die because the reactions needed to keep us alive would go way too slow.

And wouldn't he need that in his brain as well? Like I was telling Guest the control thing is what I see as a problem. Since his body generates the electricity if it becomes too much it would be discharged. This would more than likely be done by receptor proteins. This means that he has no way to manage or control them; it's all innate.

The receptor proteins would tell the cells to create the specific enzymes, then the DNA in the nucleus is duplicated in the cells so the enzymes can be created and sent to the cheeks (or even, the cells in the cheeks have the correct information to create these enzymes themselves)

Now as far as the chemical processes, I'll wait until you get that information.
oh btw: http://www.unitconversion.org/unit_converter/energy.html
set the left to KJ and put the number as 1000 (approx what you find on the table) and on the right put watts/s.
anyway, ze chemical processes. Everybody knows how heat is generated right?
what's that? you don't? ok class listen up. When energy is expanded, heat is released.
...
wait up
The various shapes of electric arc are emergent properties of nonlinear patterns of current and electric field. The arc occurs in the gas-filled space between two conductive electrodes (often made of carbon) and it results in a very high temperature, capable of melting or vaporizing most materials. An electric arc is a continuous discharge, while a similar electric spark discharge is momentary. An electric arc may occur either in Direct current circuits or in alternating current circuits. In the latter case, the arc may re-strike on each half cycle of the current. An electric arc differs from a glow discharge in that the current density is quite high, and the voltage drop within the arc is low; at the cathode the current density may be as high as one million amps per square centimeter.[1]
re-reading this says that heat is a product of this arc. That means there just has to be two conductive electrodes (pikachu and its target).
Ok you win. Pika is the man.
 

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you're still talking like there is a finite amount of electricity Pikachu can produce.
Arcs don't reach out unless there is no second conductor. which there obviously is in this case (pikachu's opponents).
and it's not like you can dodge it.

brb with my PM posts
I think that it is finite though. It would recharge itself naturally, but it would have to have some type of limit to it. This is a mouse we're tlking about mind you.
 

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yeah, there is a definite limt to how much he can juic eat a time here...

i shock may drain his small body of a charge necessary for keeping up with his much larger foes...


also, Ike vs Link?
 

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what do you want from me? his weight in Nitrogen?
fine.

wow, I just realized why it's called "Nitro"gen.

man that was slow.

pika weighs 6kg
1mol of N is 14g
1mol of N can deliver 1mil watts per sec.

do the math.
 

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Laughing while sayin' "idunno" with heav
what do you want from me? his weight in Nitrogen?
fine.

wow, I just realized why it's called "Nitro"gen.

man that was slow.

pika weighs 6kg
1mol of N is 14g
1mol of N can deliver 1mil watts per sec.

do the math.
So . . . in short, it's the DNA mixed with inhaled Nitrogen (element) and electricity is produced through a designated chemical process or whatnot

Or no?
 

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"An osprey lacks the diving speed, unlike Pidgey"

Why does Pika have more when it has only its cheeks to work with here?

*turn it up*
Pika's release is more concentrated... meaning more electrons in any given point of the electric flow which leads to higher amperage (through air).

Eels release a surface charge, the only reason it's even effective is because water conducts electricity, leading to an increased amperage, if the Eel was in dry air, since it releases an all around surface charge, there are too few electrons passing through any one spot at any given point in time for there be enough amperage, the amps fall below one, reducing the power of the shock.
 

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wrong, it's the stuff IN water that conducts the shock...

also, why is pika not emitting a surface charge?
 

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So . . . in short, it's the DNA mixed with inhaled Nitrogen (element) and electricity is produced through a designated chemical process or whatnot

Or no?
no, the DNA creates enzymes to form bonds on elemental Nitrogen obtaining large amounts of electricity.
wrong, it's the stuff IN water that conducts the shock...

also, why is pika not emitting a surface charge?
pikachu will only emit a surface charge if there isn't another conductor.
you see, there's this thing called electric arcing which will send electricity through a gaseous space (air) to another conductor (lucario)
 

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yet, we essentially tossed out Lucario's steel typing as it would be infeasable for an organism of Lucario's complexity to have that significant amount of (metal) in him to be considered that good of a conductor, no?
 

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yet, we essentially tossed out Lucario's steel typing as it would be infeasable for an organism of Lucario's complexity to have that significant amount of (metal) in him to be considered that good of a conductor, no?
read the article JOE!
 

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Can we finish this after the last 2 MUs? Then we can tlk to our heart's content about Pika as we make this TDB list.
 

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but, Ive got 'em on the ropes!

Me said:
what do you want from me? his weight in Nitrogen?
fine.

wow, I just realized why it's called "Nitro"gen.

man that was slow.

pika weighs 6kg
1mol of N is 14g
1mol of N can deliver 1mil watts per sec.

do the math.
So I said I'd come with Pikachus weight in nitrogen and I got approx. 428.571 mol of N giving pikachu 428,571,000 watts at one time before having to recharge.
sorry lucario you're cool and stuff but you just got owned.
...
and so did Diddy.
 

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but, Ive got 'em on the ropes!


So I said I'd come with Pikachus weight in nitrogen and I got approx. 428.571 mol of N giving pikachu 428,571,000 watts at one time before having to recharge.
sorry lucario you're cool and stuff but you just got owned.
...
and so did Diddy.
Well I still got Diddy killing Pika..sorry...
And Ike v. Link?


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