REL38
Smash Lord
You act like the chimp will miss a Twinkie that can't effectively dodge in the first place
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TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT
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Sieguest
Smash Master
You act like the twinkle can't dodge in the first place.
REL38
Smash Lord
You act like the Twinkie is capable of dodging
>.<
You all act as if these 1 liners will prove anything...pics are worth a 1000 words....
Sieguest
Smash Master
You act like Twinkle isn't capable of dodging.
lol@Nova
REL38
Smash Lord
You act like I'm not staying on-topic
You all act as if these 1 liners will prove anything...pics are worth a 1000 words....
>.<
Adding on to this current discussion would help move this as well
@Marthage
You act like his head, ears and tail are hardly an issue here
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Sieguest
Smash Master
You act like his head, ears and tail are a horrendous issue here.
REL38
Smash Lord
You act like you must continually dodge the question by basically saying, "nuh uh".
>.<
Getting back to business, simply take a look at its body proportions:
Able to move, sure
But not have much agility.
Sieguest
Smash Master
Look at his arm length, he'd have to rear back for a near full swing in order to land an OHKO amount of force on Pikachu, that leaves enough time for Pika to move out of the way, and if Diddy swings and hits the ground with his OHKO power, then I wouldn't think the guitar would remain intact post impact, he may still have the neck of the guitar maybe, but he just lost some range and it may fall into the whole position thing Sam and I have been harping about.
We also rethought his electricity, still discussing....
REL38
Smash Lord
I'd imagine the guitar last more than a single overhead swing.
Two, three if he's lucky.
Overhead swing is possible, sure.
Diddy can very well hold the guitar overhead and move to better hit Pika. Swing downward when he's close enough.
Chimps are heck of a lot stronger than humans.
Diddy's arms may look flimzy, but he'd more than likely be stronger than your average adult.
We've been over that.
A side swing would hold a larger hitbox, but prove somewhat awkward.
Pika's electrical powers still seem very iffy if you ask me . . . .
Two, three if he's lucky.
Overhead swing is possible, sure.
Diddy can very well hold the guitar overhead and move to better hit Pika. Swing downward when he's close enough.
Chimps are heck of a lot stronger than humans.
Diddy's arms may look flimzy, but he'd more than likely be stronger than your average adult.
We've been over that.
A side swing would hold a larger hitbox, but prove somewhat awkward.
Pika's electrical powers still seem very iffy if you ask me . . . .
You act as if you didn't take my advice.You act like I'm not staying on-topic
>.<
Adding on to this current discussion would help move this as well
@Marthage
You act like his head, ears and tail are hardly an issue here
>.<
is way more efficient than
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/sfbtmxqyzy--Hey-Listen
But getting back on topic:
Diddy and Lucario smash Pika
Wolf beats Peach.
JOE!
Smash Hero
Marthage, why are you acting liek it would take alot of force to kill pikachu?
he is a rodent, with frail bones, OHKO force as you call it wont take much
he is a rodent, with frail bones, OHKO force as you call it wont take much
yes, because if you were right then tesla coils wont exits IRL.
but they do.
also science and wikipedia told me so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc
also electrolasers wouldn't work either if you were right.
don't play dumb.
or are you not acting?
JOE!
Smash Hero
im not saying arcing electricity isnt possible, what Im asking is if you think pikachu can do it, when the electric eel cannot?
Xiahou Dun
Smash Ace
Pikachu's cheeks would be able to do it actually.
Only over such a short range it might as well just be on Contact anyway. Pikachu's ingame Forward Smash is actually pretty accurate as to the range Pikachu would have although he obviously wouldn't make a ball of electricity. But yeah Pikachu could shock just outside of contact range, maybe from about a foot away possibly 2?
Sieguest
Smash Master
The only limitation is the immense heat produced from arcing electricity...
Objects that come into contact with arcing electricity experience an IMMENSE amount of heat. Look at most conductive cathodes after arcing electricity between them and you'll see that they're singed. Unless Pika's cheeks are composed of a material that's very heat resistant x.x
So I went digging in the crates of past MUs and I'm still trying to figure out why Pika and electricity is being brought up.
So what I need from US and Guest is something ststing exactly how much watts or volts you think Pika would excrete.
We refuted this thing in the Diddy/Pika MU, and Pika lost in part because neither of you brought concrete evidence to prove Pika could use electricity in RL. On the contrary, myself, REL, HOLO, Toc, and especially Beren disproved how it would work in RL.
Just a few things you can look back on and get where I'm coming from; be prepared for a lot of WoT
REL:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8625617&postcount=11131
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8627660&postcount=11143
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8632431&postcount=11161
Nova:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8630453&postcount=11148
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8634421&postcount=11218
HOLO:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8633536&postcount=11171
Toc:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635181&postcount=11278
Beren:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635368&postcount=11283
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635530&postcount=11288
I didn't add everyone's rebuttal because there was some spamming going on, but the discussion begins around here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237756&page=743
We should start from there and have you two pick up and prove electricity can work in Pikachu. And make sure you prove how lethal it really is and how it will kill Lucario and Diddy.
So what I need from US and Guest is something ststing exactly how much watts or volts you think Pika would excrete.
We refuted this thing in the Diddy/Pika MU, and Pika lost in part because neither of you brought concrete evidence to prove Pika could use electricity in RL. On the contrary, myself, REL, HOLO, Toc, and especially Beren disproved how it would work in RL.
Just a few things you can look back on and get where I'm coming from; be prepared for a lot of WoT
REL:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8625617&postcount=11131
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8627660&postcount=11143
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8632431&postcount=11161
Nova:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8630453&postcount=11148
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8634421&postcount=11218
HOLO:
Where is this guy?
Toc:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635181&postcount=11278
Beren:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635368&postcount=11283
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635530&postcount=11288
I didn't add everyone's rebuttal because there was some spamming going on, but the discussion begins around here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237756&page=743
We should start from there and have you two pick up and prove electricity can work in Pikachu. And make sure you prove how lethal it really is and how it will kill Lucario and Diddy.
Oh, and thx 4 the new sig Guest!
JOE!
Smash Hero
@Xiao:
Keep in mind that Pika himself is only about a foot tall/long at best, so if you go by his smash attack that arc would only barely be a foot long, as well as possibly "drain" his batteries
Keep in mind that Pika himself is only about a foot tall/long at best, so if you go by his smash attack that arc would only barely be a foot long, as well as possibly "drain" his batteries
tocador
Smash Lord
Hey nova i cant see your quote from marthage =[. What does it say D:!!!
And i may be crazy, but did i read last page that diddys body was unproportional and fail? If so, go to a zoo fast because they got news for you.
And i may be crazy, but did i read last page that diddys body was unproportional and fail? If so, go to a zoo fast because they got news for you
.http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635893&postcount=11298
This.
BTW, any places to live where you reside at Toc lol?
This.
BTW, any places to live where you reside at Toc lol?
Xiahou Dun
Smash Ace
About Pikachu's Electricity generaion
The secret to this ability lies, unsurprisingly, in the Electro Sacs. The description for this Pokemon says that they discharge electricity when disturbed. This suggests that the electricity produced is static in nature, produced by movement rather than any other method. Within the electro sacs lie several layers of rigid frond-like protrusions, when the sac is moved these fronds rub against one another and generate a static electrical charge . Inside the Pikachu the electro sacs would be found running along the spine, on the ventral side of the vertabrae. When it wishes to produce a charge the Pikachu will rapidly move the mass of skeletal muscle surrounding the electro sacs, generating charge. This charge is then conducted from the sacs along conductive tissue, similar to the Purkinje fibres found in the heart, to where it is needed at Pikachu's cheeks.
1. An insulative material around the cheeks. If this was damaged then yes Pikachu would be extremely heavily burned.
2. A layer of Mucuc(Eww) on the surface of the cheeks. The electricity would then be conducted through this.
The secret to this ability lies, unsurprisingly, in the Electro Sacs. The description for this Pokemon says that they discharge electricity when disturbed. This suggests that the electricity produced is static in nature, produced by movement rather than any other method. Within the electro sacs lie several layers of rigid frond-like protrusions, when the sac is moved these fronds rub against one another and generate a static electrical charge . Inside the Pikachu the electro sacs would be found running along the spine, on the ventral side of the vertabrae. When it wishes to produce a charge the Pikachu will rapidly move the mass of skeletal muscle surrounding the electro sacs, generating charge. This charge is then conducted from the sacs along conductive tissue, similar to the Purkinje fibres found in the heart, to where it is needed at Pikachu's cheeks.
There are two explanations for why Pikachu wouldn't get burned.Guest438 said:
1. An insulative material around the cheeks. If this was damaged then yes Pikachu would be extremely heavily burned.
2. A layer of Mucuc(Eww) on the surface of the cheeks. The electricity would then be conducted through this.
tocador
Smash Lord
Epichttp://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8635893&postcount=11298
This.
BTW, any places to live where you reside at Toc lol?
Yeah, sure, where i live there are plenty of places, but the place you want to go is way down there, but sure, brazil is always welcome to receive dolars, i mean, americans.
/lololol
tocador
Smash Lord
If electricity actually was made as you say, there is no way IT WOULD BE CONTAINED @ pika cheecks. Cause with no real conductor inside pika, and the inability to actually control where the electricity will go would actually make the chock kill pika.
Ima get back to this latter.
And the mucus would then conduct the eletricity to....? Yeah, unless he sneases everytime he unleashes a jolt of electricity this aint gonna happen or pikachu would just kill him self.
You need to try again kiddo. Read some of the links I posted and you'll see how wrong you really are.
Epic
Yeah, sure, where i live there are plenty of places, but the place you want to go is way down there, but sure, brazil is always welcome to receive dolars, i mean, americans.
/lololol
Iknorite?
And I just saw your location and I knew tht was where I need to be at lol.
Xiahou Dun
Smash Ace
Yeah nice attempt at trying to be condescending but err. How old are you?
I saw the links you posted and they didn't trouble me overmuch. I am completely convinced REL38 is mentally deficit and the rest didn't have much to do with what I was talking about save "lolproportions" and "notpowerfulenoughtokill" the only person who gave anything legitimate was Beren. But he was talking about an entirely different method of dispatching electricity to the one I am talking about.
And
OH
MY
GOD
Stop posting unfunny demotivationals every 5 seconds. I am on the brink of insanity.
I saw the links you posted and they didn't trouble me overmuch. I am completely convinced REL38 is mentally deficit and the rest didn't have much to do with what I was talking about save "lolproportions" and "notpowerfulenoughtokill" the only person who gave anything legitimate was Beren. But he was talking about an entirely different method of dispatching electricity to the one I am talking about.
And
OH
MY
GOD
Stop posting unfunny demotivationals every 5 seconds. I am on the brink of insanity.
It's not contained. As I said he makes it as he uses it. He generates and discharges electricity. He doesn't store it.
I've already said it doesn't go anyway. It would only be conducted by the Mucus and be around a foot away from him at most. He doesn't fire bolts of lightning. Or anything.
JOE!
Smash Hero
Problems:
1) i stopped reading after you used Pika's pokedex entry as a source.
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2) What the hell is an electricity sac? Elecrtic eels use special MUSCLES that are used to create a charge, much like a battery, along it's body, and then they dispell it.
3) The mucus could work, but it would never arc through the air.
1) i stopped reading after you used Pika's pokedex entry as a source.
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2) What the hell is an electricity sac? Elecrtic eels use special MUSCLES that are used to create a charge, much like a battery, along it's body, and then they dispell it.
3) The mucus could work, but it would never arc through the air.
REL38
Smash Lord
@Xia
You kids and your name calling.
As if that refutes or makes your points any more valid
It just makes you look silly
Convince me Pikachu can utilize lethal electricity when an electric eel must dedicate 80% of its body just to produce stun capable electricty.
Because I've yet to see a believable reason in this thread.
You kids and your name calling.
As if that refutes or makes your points any more valid
It just makes you look silly
Convince me Pikachu can utilize lethal electricity when an electric eel must dedicate 80% of its body just to produce stun capable electricty.
Because I've yet to see a believable reason in this thread.
JOE!
Smash Hero
Elec eels kill with their elecrical pulse, not stun...
I mean, a decent sized Eel could probably down large sharks if they met in the ocean
I mean, a decent sized Eel could probably down large sharks if they met in the ocean
REL38
Smash Lord
You know what I meant
>.<
But I highly, highly doubt it could kill a shark.
Their electrical capabilities are limited by voltage, wattage, amps, megahertz, seizures or w/e it's called these days
JOE!
Smash Hero
no, it would, for lack of a beter term, be super-effective on sharks due to sharks not only lacking fatty tissue to help cusion the shock, but relying on an electrical guidance system.
if they get zapped, it will overload and make them go unconcious, if it stops swimming, it cannot breathe and will drown
if they get zapped, it will overload and make them go unconcious, if it stops swimming, it cannot breathe and will drown
REL38
Smash Lord
iirc an eel produces 4 ampes of electricity
Devices have been used to ward away sharks via electric pulses (or something or other)
I haven't a clue what they're called, but they force em' to turn tail.
idunno if 4 ampes can down a shark, but I doubt it
Devices have been used to ward away sharks via electric pulses (or something or other)
I haven't a clue what they're called, but they force em' to turn tail.
idunno if 4 ampes can down a shark, but I doubt it
Yeah nice attempt at trying to be condescending but err. How old are you?
I saw the links you posted and they didn't trouble me overmuch. I am completely convinced REL38 is mentally deficit and the rest didn't have much to do with what I was talking about save "lolproportions" and "notpowerfulenoughtokill" the only person who gave anything legitimate was Beren. But he was talking about an entirely different method of dispatching electricity to the one I am talking about.
And
OH
MY
GOD
Stop posting unfunny demotivationals every 5 seconds. I am on the brink of insanity.
Im old enough to know what electricity does mind you.
Brink of insanity? Reread your posts because you over-qualify for tht.
And what I'm convinced is tht:
- you didn't read anything. Or better yet, maybe you didn't understand what was being said and why we don't believe Pika can produce electricity.
- you have no point to your rebuttal. Your entire post just showed your disdain for my poster and nothing of any substance.
- your "idea" of how it works makes no sense. I'll break down why in a little.
- you need a motivational poster for your posts.
Now, why this is not feasible:
1. how do you contain static electricity?
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge#Static_electricity_and_electric_current
You saying one thing and mean another I'm hoping. Unless you really believe static electricity can be manifested into something really fatal.
3. His body is too small for the sacs to secrete electricity. His body would have to be mostly dedicated to harnessing and producing electricity.
4. ATP. Learn it and then look up what a mouse does with most of its energy.
5. His vertabrae? Really? Yes let's encourage self-paralysis.
6. He would be burned. Come up with a specific type of material Pika would naturally have and prove it. And mucous? As a reason why he wouldn't be burned?
There are more reasons why it won't work, but I'm too tired to thoroughly disprove your post. Face it, unless Pika can do something like this:
then he's not gonna win at all. If you feel obligated to prove me wrong, then feel free to do so.
Vegeta has spoken.
JOE!
Smash Hero
so annnyways
now that we've gotten pika out of the way, new MU soon?
now that we've gotten pika out of the way, new MU soon?
Sieguest
Smash Master
You're welcome,
anyway, I had a huge post covering most of those rebuttals, since its so late I'll only post a retardedly condensed version and then find my old post later x.x
Watts= Total power from system
Amps- rate of flow, for ever 6.28x10^5(?) electrons in any given spot in the electric current is one amp.
Volts- Raw electrical energy.
Mechanically wise Pika can build up a charge.
Again, ridiculously condensed, I'll find my full post later.
Also, had to take another look at the dielectric table. (Understand it a bit more now) so I'll have something to throw on that to.
Completely off.....
Again, completely off...
I lost a fair amount of credulity on your take in this MU because of this....
It could... you still have two conductive points that can produce electricity that can flow through normally non-conductive material.
Oh hell no....
>__>
JOE!
Smash Hero
@pokedex entry:
they are all b-s, just look at things like Charizard's fire melting rocks when rock type resists fire, or Machamp being able to move mountains, Alakazam havign an IQ of over 9000, etc...
they are all b-s, just look at things like Charizard's fire melting rocks when rock type resists fire, or Machamp being able to move mountains, Alakazam havign an IQ of over 9000, etc...
Sieguest
Smash Master
Height? Weight? etc....
JOE!
Smash Hero
well those aspects are legit, but he was going off the actual descriptions, which are all B-S
Sieguest
Smash Master
True...
I'll have to touch on the rest of this stuff tomorrow x.x either that, or just take it to the social group and move on here x.x.
Lawl Wigglytuff....
JOE!
Smash Hero
where do you find those pics?