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Well, if his blast is weaker, then it would take less time to activate. Ridley would store his own energy for the blast in that lump on his back. If Ray were to hit that, Ridley would have trouble firing any more blasts.
i really try not to, all I try to do is present info that nobody is bringing up.Well, if his blast is weaker, then it would take less time to activate. Ridley would store his own energy for the blast in that lump on his back. If Ray were to hit that, Ridley would have trouble firing any more blasts.
EDIT: Joe, I hate to say it, but you probably shouldn't be voting one side all the time if you're the one making the matches... It was irritating in the Lucario/Diddy match, and its probably irritating those who vote for Ridley.
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Again, no flying, no hype beam.
Rayquaza acting like a drill is impossible without flight, he needs to be able to spin his head/tail to do that, which he really isn't possible from the ground. In water he definately has an advantage.
He hasn't shown the ability to spit poison, so the most probable delivery system would be classic snake style, a bite.
Yes, they did with Diddy, but Lucario was far better anyway. People just sucked at explaining it.
Plasma is very hot, it's got good range, the only reason he'd fight up close is a hit and run tactics, and Rayquaza doesn't have the aerial mobility to deal with it. In fact he doesn't have any.
Storing energy really isn't how it would work, this is chemistry.
Pretty much, Rayquaza is more muscular, and since Ridley is built to be glide/flight capable, he'd crush Ridley like a bug. A lot of his bones are probably hollow (not including the skull, since it's obviously build to withstand impact) and the wings are especially fragile. Also, we've established the potential for poison fangs, so the general fragility of Ridley in this match-up is up by being bitten = poison.
No particular time, it's a chemical reaction, so the energy created would heat it immiediatly.
Well, the way I see it, is that your strategy revolves around you avoiding fire breath, but hitting with plasma breath. What that's basicly saying is avoiding your opponent's attacks and hitting with yours.
Since that's what the move Toxic is shown to be (spitting poison), then yes, he can.
Primarily because Ridley's gliding mobility is both superior, and less predictable. I posted the vid of how snakes move, and while it can be fast, it's VERY easy to predict their movements.Well, the way I see it, is that your strategy revolves around you avoiding fire breath, but hitting with plasma breath. What that's basicly saying is avoiding your opponent's attacks and hitting with yours.
Also, if they're both firing beams, why does Rayquaza, who is comfortably on the ground, tire faster than Ridley, who must make sure he stays airborne. You also have said that when Ridley eventually lands, he is vulnerable. Obviously, Ridley must land eventually, if only briefly, and is most vulnerable there. Ray is most vulnerable from the plasma beams, and again, this assumes plasma beam hits and flame doesn't.
EDIT: @KingCobra - We've already established that Rayquaza cannot fly.
Lol, show me a piece or technology or better yet, an animal that can actually do that and we'll let rayquaza fly.
Pokemon animations are very generalized, I don't see him with any other poison moves, so it doesn't really stand to reason that he'd have delivery system built in for a move that he doesn't even naturally learn.
Dang it. Rayquaza has strength, better build, better range, possibly better intelligence, and , yet, he apparently loses because he can't fly.... or be as mobile. The thing is, Rayquaza isn't completely a snake; remeber, while he cannot fly, he's capable of jumping a long distance, which means he can get out of the way fast. Even if Ridley hits him more than he hits Ridley, they'll mostly dodge each other's attacks if you ask me. It'd be a long, long battle before Ridley can win by just plasma beaming. And Ridley will have to land once or twice (maybe more) before that happens, and Ray has opportunities right there.
Rayquaza has to coil to do horizontal jumps. Again, that goes back to his big problem here, he's telegraphed. This goes back to his diffuse muscular pattern, which ultimately is the reason why he loses, because it means that it's too easy for Ridley to know where Rayquaza will be and just keep peppering him with shots.
To be precise, Glide. He's too heavy for powered flight, but his wings will assist in jumping high, and he can definitely glide very well.
) So Ridley definitely has more options...)
Even if we allowed hyper beam
I beg to differ. Ridley's intellegence far outstrips that of Rayquaza's. I've played both pokemon and metroid games and know quite a lot about each. While Ryquaza is simply a beast you capture and control Ridley is the scheming leader of the space pirates. He is actually extreemly intellegent despite his looks and has a HUGE edge over Rayquaza when it comes down to planning battle strategies and tactics. Especially since Rayquaza does not have a trainer directing him.
Glide, Ridley is too heavy for powered flight. That said, Rayquaza is not gonna be capable of much vertical distance, like real snakes, it's all in the horizontal.In this aspect:
1. Mobility
Ridley>Rayquaza
Ridley can fly and Rayquaza is basically a humongous snake with awesome upper body strength (Rayquaza's psuedo flying being an elongated jump...
Ridley>Rayquaza
Hyper beam is a scientific impossibility.
Rayquaza doesn't need a trainer. Rayquaza can be caught, but is independantly intelligent, and extremely intelligent at that.
Although Rayquaza is very snake-like and his vertical distance isn't huge...
But you'd have to imply Ray making concious and outright effort to attack...Ray could simply play a more defensive stand and wait until Ridley starts nearing the ground (convection currents can't keep Ridley in the air forever can they?) this way Ray has expended much less energy...I can see what you're saying. It seems that Rayquaza can have all the strnegths and still lose if he can't fly or have improved mobility. Unlike in other match-ups, where each character atleast has a chance to attack the opponent, you say it as ray can't. If this is true, then there isn't an arguement possible unless it gives Ray an opportunity to attack....
Although it is telegraphed that Ray is about to strike Ridley couldn't know where or when do to wide range Ray could lunge at.. Ridley's worst move would be to turn and try to run...then Rayquaza has an almost sure shot on a very weak part of the body... unless Ridley has eyes in the back of his head...
That'd be a good way to play defense. If rayquaza ever gets a hold on Ridley, its game over. Ridley has an odd build and multiple frail body parts - his neck especially. The thing is that while Rayquaza CAN evade Ridley's attacks, Ridley is intelligent enough to sense where Ray where land, really depending on how much he coils his body. I'm still voting Ray because he won't go down without multiple opportunities to combat Ridley, which he will excel at. I think it ought to be noted that gliding is not the same as flying, and Ridley can't just distance himself from rayquaza forever. Honestly, Ridley's wing size still makes me wonder how efficiently he can stay airborne...But you'd have to imply Ray making concious and outright effort to attack...Ray could simply play a more defensive stand and wait until Ridley starts nearing the ground (convection currents can't keep Ridley in the air forever can they?) this way Ray has expended much less energy...
Also despite the time it takes Ray to coil Ray has long body and a long span of range to strike I could maybe attest to Ray even being able to do a turnaround strike if Ridley tries to fly behind it...Rayquaza is very intelligent and can probably make a right move on when to strike...
Exactly, but what you gotta consider in this match-up is that there's a lot of room for Ridley to make a mistake, if Rayquza can force a crucial landing near enough to do something, then Ridley is done for. It's not too bad a match-up overall.I can see what you're saying. It seems that Rayquaza can have all the strnegths and still lose if he can't fly or have improved mobility. Unlike in other match-ups, where each character atleast has a chance to attack the opponent, you say it as ray can't. If this is true, then there isn't an arguement possible unless it gives Ray an opportunity to attack....
Ridley's best option if Rayquaza is close is to leap again, and hope that Rayquaza doesn't get him before he has the needed altitude.But you'd have to imply Ray making concious and outright effort to attack...Ray could simply play a more defensive stand and wait until Ridley starts nearing the ground (convection currents can't keep Ridley in the air forever can they?) this way Ray has expended much less energy...
Also despite the time it takes Ray to coil Ray has long body and a long span of range to strike I could maybe attest to Ray even being able to do a turnaround strike if Ridley tries to fly behind it...Rayquaza is very intelligent and can probably make a right move on when to strike...
Check out the metriod prime video, it makes it pretty obvious that he has enormous wings that can fold inward (and generally does while landed).
I actually just saw it; he can fly/glide then.... Right now, Ridley's aerial prowess versus Rayquaza's land prowess seem to be a debatable battle still, though I give props to Adumbrodeus for constantly changing my mind.
Ok, cool. A little special note for what he does when he's on the ground, he folds up his wings so they look pretty tiny by contracting his wing struts. They fact that he can do that explains by 2D illustrations have such tiny wings.
Yeah, I agree that hills are the fairest area for battling. Also, Ridley is able to jump high, but how high? It'd probably be pretty high, considering that Ridley's a big fellow. Rayquaza's about 23 ft long and can stand up at about 11 feet, as to have half of his body supporting him. Ray may not want to stand up too much, only when aiming a flame breath, as he will want to keep in a viable coiling position at all times.
Again, overall light frame, high muscle to mass ratio, legs on overclock (if you check the pics, his legs are designed like a flea/grasshopper with the ability to fold inward in order get more overall distance), aerodynamic design, wings, ability to create his own powerful updrafts (plasma breath).
And I think I'm gonna call it a night...
They're thinner then other areas, but they're definitely scaled as well.
Not quite, Ridley can sharpen then angle then pull up to rapidly gain speed. However if Rayquaza is too close when Ridley's too close to the ground to do this Rayquaza can catch up.
Very, unlike powered flight, only slight changes in angle of small things (like head) can drastically change movement.
Honestly, it depends a great deal on what the fuel is. The same holds true for both Rayquza and Ridley, since they're both gonna need to be naturally producing fuel. However, if the fuel is only a "spark" and most of the blaze uses a common medium to sustain (even air, if hot enough), they could theoretically both use it all day.
If all he can do is glide then how the hell is he going to get high enough in the air for him to be able to glide freely around and attack (Ridley).
