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Taking advantage of the kindness of others is not acceptable, the first DQ of *Pound*

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kackamee

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MattDotZeb

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Hey guys I just want to clarify some things.
First of all I am the president of True Gamer Apparel.
If you don't believe me search Georgia business licenses, and Tommy Bagwell should be on there.
I also designed each and every design for the company including logos etc. with more to come.
Evan is a good friend of mine, and I don't agree with all the money bull****, but he is a good guy, and fun to be around.
I just don't want this whole situation to harm the company's image in any way.
It isn't fair for us to have a bad rep before we even meet any of you.
This needs to be seen and it was just at the end of page 9...
A company's rep should not be tarnished by one of its employees.
 

ihavespaceblondes

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I am so glad I don't have work in the morning, I can stay up until whenever waiting for Marty's post.
No blunts to keep me company, but there's a bottle of wine downstairs that keeps getting closer and closer to empty.
 

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i got nothing against truegamer. i dont even associate evan with TG. just a guy who sold your shirts once

i bought one of your true gamer black shirts btw. i like it
 

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Hey guys I just want to clarify some things.
First of all I am the president of True Gamer Apparel.
If you don't believe me search Georgia business licenses, and Tommy Bagwell should be on there.
I also designed each and every design for the company including logos etc. with more to come.
Evan is a good friend of mine, and I don't agree with all the money bull****, but he is a good guy, and fun to be around.
I just don't want this whole situation to harm the company's image in any way.
It isn't fair for us to have a bad rep before we even meet any of you.
Nah man, no one takes it out on you. But evidentally this Evan guy ain't cool.
 

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yo guys, i saw that a few of you wanted to hear Mike G's side of the story. since i was right there with him through everything, and at his request, i will share the tales with you guys.


i guess i'll start with our trip to VLS. we ended up staying with QDVS and ColBol in their hotel room. the following day, we needed to get to the venue, which was a few minutes away by car. Mike was tired, and not participating in the tourney, so he let Evan have the keys to his van. The stipulation was that Evan had to come back to the hotel and pick Mike up. He agreed, and we all went on our way. After about 3 hours, I ran into Evan and asked him if he had picked up Mike. he responded to me that he was just about to leave to get him. i nodded and walked off. later in the afternoon, i ran into Evan again. he was sitting watching ChuDat play matches. i asked him if he had gotten Mike, and he said no. i asked him to give me the keys so that i could go get him, but he refused to give me the keys and said that he was about to go get him. i glared at him in annoyance and walked off. later into the night, i saw Evan watching ChuDat again, and i asked Evan where Mike was. he told me that QDVS went to go get him. when i asked why, he told me that QDVS was supposed to go and get him the entire time, which was a lie. what ended up happening, as I was told later by Mike, was that he tried many times to call Evan, but he eventually shut his phone off so he wouldn't have to go get or talk to Mike. Mike eventually called Andy, and Andy went and got him. so, essentially, Evan left Mike stranded by himself at a hotel for 10-12 hours so he could watch ChuDat play Smash.


the next story takes place when Brawl was just being released. Mike, XIF, Evan, and myself were very excited about the game, so we decided to go in on a Japanese Wii and a copy of Brawl. a couple of days before we were going to order, i told everyone that i needed to bow out on the deal. living more than an hour away from Evan's, which is where the Wii was going to be kept, going to school, and working would keep me from being able to play very much at all. me paying for something i'm not gonna be able to use would be pointless. Mike and XIF fully understood, and they were cool with it. Evan, however, gave me infinite **** about it and got angry about my reasoning for it. eventually, Mike, XIF, Evan, Soft, and FullMetal went in on the system and game, with Evan giving considerably less than everyone else. and so, the Wii came to Evan's place, and everyone played. a few days later, Evan had to go to school, and Mike was at home for the day. since his little brother wanted to play Brawl, Mike asked Evan to borrow the Wii for his brother when he got out of school. Evan, of course, said no. After much negotiation, Mike convinced Evan to let him use a Wii that he paid more for. also note the fact that Evan was going to be in class all day, and was not going to be able to use the Wii period. to make matters even worse, a short while after Mike got the Wii, Evan called Mike and told him that he needed the Wii back in the morning. i forgot to mention that after homework and everything, Mike's brother did not have very much time to play. Mike asked Evan if he really needed it back in the morning, as his brother wanted to play more the next day. Evan, of course, says that he has to have it the next morning, so Mike gives the Wii back to him. the next part takes place more recently. Mike decided to try and help Lambchops find a job when he was in GA, so he, Chops, and Evan went to a bunch of places, getting and filling out applications. Evan mentions that he has a friend that works at Fry's Electronics and that he can probably hook Chops up, so the group heads over there. During the time at Fry's, Evan slips away from the group. Mike goes to find him later and overhears a conversation Evan is having with his friend. Evan was trying to sell his friend the Wii without discussing it with anyone else that went in on the Wii. When Mike approached him about what he heard, Evan simply told him not to worry about it. a few weeks later, Evan sends a text message to SleepyK asking him to help him sell his Japanese Wii. Sleepy responds asking if that's the same Wii that Mike and everyone else went in on. Evan tells him that Mike and everyone going in on the Wii was false information, and that he would just find someone else to help him sell it. There may be more on that subject, but that is all I recall about it. i think some other stuff happened as well, but hopefully Mike can elaborate a little on those facts.


the final tale i have for you all takes place back in March at a tournament called Final Round. on the second day of the tournament, Brawl singles were going to take place. Larry, the TO, approaches Mike and asks where his copy of Brawl is. When Mike gives him a questioning glance, Larry states that he left it inside of Mike's Wii. Mike says that his Wii is back at Evan's and that he'll go back and get it. He tries to get Evan to take him back, but Evan says no, stating that he wants to watch matches at the tournament. So, eventually, Mike convinces Dogy to take him back to Evan's to look for the game. They drive for about 30 minutes to get back to Evan's apartment. When they get to the apartment, they look inside Mike's Wii, but only find a copy of Melee. They also looked inside of Evan's Wii and find nothing. Mike calls Evan about the situation, and Evan says that the game isn't there and that he forgot what he did with it. So, when Mike made it back to the venue, he asked Evan if he was going to take care of the situation, and Evan said that he would. And so, Mike left it at that. Time then passed to October, when Waba and Larry held South East Battles at Waba Game. When Mike arrives at the venue, Larry asks him about the game, saying he never got it back and that Evan said Mike would give it back to him. Mike tells him the truth; Evan said he would take care of the situation. Later on that tournament, Evan gives Larry back a copy of Brawl. Sadly enough, we find out that he stole Nes Noob's copy of Brawl and gave it to Larry.


i may have left some details out, but that is most of what happened. if anyone knows more about it, please feel free to add on to what i have posted here. basically, evan is a pretty selfish scumbag. on a side note from this post, Evan owes me about 100 bucks total from various things, and i wanna collect.
 

MattDotZeb

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I am so glad I don't have work in the morning, I can stay up until whenever waiting for Marty's post.
No blunts to keep me company, but there's a bottle of wine downstairs that keeps getting closer and closer to empty.
lmao so many people in this thread smoke.
Didn't know you did, IHSB :O


2nd
 

SwiftBass

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Hey guys I just want to clarify some things.
First of all I am the president of True Gamer Apparel.
If you don't believe me search Georgia business licenses, and Tommy Bagwell should be on there.
I also designed each and every design for the company including logos etc. with more to come.
Evan is a good friend of mine, and I don't agree with all the money bull****, but he is a good guy, and fun to be around.
I just don't want this whole situation to harm the company's image in any way.
It isn't fair for us to have a bad rep before we even meet any of you.
its also not fair that baseball gets a bad rap for steroids after a few dummies use them. Its not fair that middle eastern people get all this **** since 9/11. as much as you/us smasher let people know that PBnJ = true gamer he is still attached to it. You def are in a less favorable spot and its unfortunate. As a business man I am hoping that this is not news to you.
 

RaynEX

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This is crazy.

IMO I don't think Plank should have made a thread about this. Banning him for what he's done makes sense, but doing it so publicly doesn't feel right.

If people wanted to get nosy and know more **** about his life and the mistakes he made within the community (but out of their region) they could have asked him or you, Plank. Everyone in the community, good or bad, has this image within their community and oos that follows them their entire smash career. I don't think 'outing' him like this is cool. Resolve it behind closed doors, tell people about it later maybe?

Again I could be wrong, but its what first came to mind when I heard about this. ****...I hope he changes.


edit: Okay after reading GA Peach's post GGs..not sure how to defend that honestly
 

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yo guys, i saw that a few of you wanted to hear Mike G's side of the story. since i was right there with him through everything, and at his request, i will share the tales with you guys.


i guess i'll start with our trip to VLS. we ended up staying with QDVS and ColBol in their hotel room. the following day, we needed to get to the venue, which was a few minutes away by car. Mike was tired, and not participating in the tourney, so he let Evan have the keys to his van. The stipulation was that Evan had to come back to the hotel and pick Mike up. He agreed, and we all went on our way. After about 3 hours, I ran into Evan and asked him if he had picked up Mike. he responded to me that he was just about to leave to get him. i nodded and walked off. later in the afternoon, i ran into Evan again. he was sitting watching ChuDat play matches. i asked him if he had gotten Mike, and he said no. i asked him to give me the keys so that i could go get him, but he refused to give me the keys and said that he was about to go get him. i glared at him in annoyance and walked off. later into the night, i saw Evan watching ChuDat again, and i asked Evan where Mike was. he told me that QDVS went to go get him. when i asked why, he told me that QDVS was supposed to go and get him the entire time, which was a lie. what ended up happening, as I was told later by Mike, was that he tried many times to call Evan, but he eventually shut his phone off so he wouldn't have to go get or talk to Mike. Mike eventually called Andy, and Andy went and got him. so, essentially, Evan left Mike stranded by himself at a hotel for 10-12 hours so he could watch ChuDat play Smash.


the next story takes place when Brawl was just being released. Mike, XIF, Evan, and myself were very excited about the game, so we decided to go in on a Japanese Wii and a copy of Brawl. a couple of days before we were going to order, i told everyone that i needed to bow out on the deal. living more than an hour away from Evan's, which is where the Wii was going to be kept, going to school, and working would keep me from being able to play very much at all. me paying for something i'm not gonna be able to use would be pointless. Mike and XIF fully understood, and they were cool with it. Evan, however, gave me infinite **** about it and got angry about my reasoning for it. eventually, Mike, XIF, Evan, Soft, and FullMetal went in on the system and game, with Evan giving considerably less than everyone else. and so, the Wii came to Evan's place, and everyone played. a few days later, Evan had to go to school, and Mike was at home for the day. since his little brother wanted to play Brawl, Mike asked Evan to borrow the Wii for his brother when he got out of school. Evan, of course, said no. After much negotiation, Mike convinced Evan to let him use a Wii that he paid more for. also note the fact that Evan was going to be in class all day, and was not going to be able to use the Wii period. to make matters even worse, a short while after Mike got the Wii, Evan called Mike and told him that he needed the Wii back in the morning. i forgot to mention that after homework and everything, Mike's brother did not have very much time to play. Mike asked Evan if he really needed it back in the morning, as his brother wanted to play more the next day. Evan, of course, says that he has to have it the next morning, so Mike gives the Wii back to him. the next part takes place more recently. Mike decided to try and help Lambchops find a job when he was in GA, so he, Chops, and Evan went to a bunch of places, getting and filling out applications. Evan mentions that he has a friend that works at Fry's Electronics and that he can probably hook Chops up, so the group heads over there. During the time at Fry's, Evan slips away from the group. Mike goes to find him later and overhears a conversation Evan is having with his friend. Evan was trying to sell his friend the Wii without discussing it with anyone else that went in on the Wii. When Mike approached him about what he heard, Evan simply told him not to worry about it. a few weeks later, Evan sends a text message to SleepyK asking him to help him sell his Japanese Wii. Sleepy responds asking if that's the same Wii that Mike and everyone else went in on. Evan tells him that Mike and everyone going in on the Wii was false information, and that he would just find someone else to help him sell it. There may be more on that subject, but that is all I recall about it. i think some other stuff happened as well, but hopefully Mike can elaborate a little on those facts.


the final tale i have for you all takes place back in March at a tournament called Final Round. on the second day of the tournament, Brawl singles were going to take place. Larry, the TO, approaches Mike and asks where his copy of Brawl is. When Mike gives him a questioning glance, Larry states that he left it inside of Mike's Wii. Mike says that his Wii is back at Evan's and that he'll go back and get it. He tries to get Evan to take him back, but Evan says no, stating that he wants to watch matches at the tournament. So, eventually, Mike convinces Dogy to take him back to Evan's to look for the game. They drive for about 30 minutes to get back to Evan's apartment. When they get to the apartment, they look inside Mike's Wii, but only find a copy of Melee. They also looked inside of Evan's Wii and find nothing. Mike calls Evan about the situation, and Evan says that the game isn't there and that he forgot what he did with it. So, when Mike made it back to the venue, he asked Evan if he was going to take care of the situation, and Evan said that he would. And so, Mike left it at that. Time then passed to October, when Waba and Larry held South East Battles at Waba Game. When Mike arrives at the venue, Larry asks him about the game, saying he never got it back and that Evan said Mike would give it back to him. Mike tells him the truth; Evan said he would take care of the situation. Later on that tournament, Evan gives Larry back a copy of Brawl. Sadly enough, we find out that he stole Nes Noob's copy of Brawl and gave it to Larry.


i may have left some details out, but that is most of what happened. if anyone knows more about it, please feel free to add on to what i have posted here. basically, evan is a pretty selfish scumbag. on a side note from this post, Evan owes me about 100 bucks total from various things, and i wanna collect.
Not as angry as I expected, but raaaaaaape all the same!
 

BluePeachy100

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Oh HELL NO! PBnJ, you're a horrible person, and an even worse friend. These people put up with you for so long, and you did them so dirty. You're such a greasy person, and I hope I never have the displeasure of meeting you, and/or talking to you because of how horrible you are.

You all have a lot of patience, I couldn't deal with that much myself...
 

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TOTALLY UTTER ****. WWIJRNrehtjhejWGTNrwhyryhryhhytkyuliyliyhbfgrfghtjutondW4yLJGTRyrjyrhEWIGJTBEKHNEGJE4ijrewfkwejnujwe
 

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@ T Bag

No offense but in this case you gotta let PBnJ go if you want your business to do well cuz customer service is a ***** to deal
 

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Evan left Mike stranded by himself at a hotel for 10-12 hours so he could watch ChuDat play Smash.


Evan was trying to sell his friend the Wii without discussing it with anyone else that went in on the Wii. When Mike approached him about what he heard, Evan simply told him not to worry about it. a few weeks later, Evan sends a text message to SleepyK asking him to help him sell his Japanese Wii. Sleepy responds asking if that's the same Wii that Mike and everyone else went in on. Evan tells him that Mike and everyone going in on the Wii was false information, and that he would just find someone else to help him sell it. There may be more on that subject, but that is all I recall about it. i think some other stuff happened as well, but hopefully Mike can elaborate a little on those facts.


Sadly enough, we find out that he stole Nes Noob's copy of Brawl and gave it to Larry.
1) Chu Dat is serious buisness but wow...
2) That's just dirty, mad dirty
3) He...stole....Nes N00b's copy of brawl...That crosses some stuff.

BRING ON THE DON HUDSON, DR. PEEPEE, TOASTY, AND L0ZR
 

REDfox1

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wow marty... you went in on him and the messed up part about that is the second day i met him he was trying to sell me that wii as well and if i had bought it God only knows what the outcome would have bin
ugh what a *******...
 
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