Squirtleknight is obnoxious obv :012:. - Marth+

[Limeee]

i'm not sure if this has been found and i don't want to bother reading through all the pages but marth has a f-throw chain grab on floaties

but if they DI towards you, you have to walk instead of run

oh and it combos into dair, which is ****

 

[ChaosKnight]

yea it works been doing it for a while

also i have an awesome 0- 75% ish combo on squirtle requiring to grab squirtle at like 0-8%

its F-throw neutral air pivot grab f-throw up air .. pivot another grab or upair into up b...

 

[Limeee]

yea it works been doing it for a while

also i have an awesome 0- 75% ish combo on squirtle requiring to grab squirtle at like 0-8%

its F-throw neutral air pivot grab f-throw up air .. pivot another grab or upair into up b...

that sounds crazy in theory, but also sounds like a sweet combo

is it DIable?

 

[ChaosKnight]

it might be DIable after f throw up air but you can follow it up with a fair into up b or such

 

[GHNeko]

I hate pivot grabbing so muuuuch. Dash dancing keeps getting in the way.

 

[Dark Sonic]

I hate pivot grabbing so muuuuch. Dash dancing keeps getting in the way.

Press grab BEFORE you hit back. Works every time.

Unless you meant true pivot grab ("brawl" pivot grab is better though Q_Q)

Seriously wtf Sakurai, you stole the name of an existing tech and put it on something else. Now talking about pivoting makes everyone confused.

 

[Plum]

I think its true pivots Neko is complaining about.
Brawl pivots are nothing to mess up... True pivots on the other hand can be a bit finicky (and more of a hassle to use T_T) Meh...
There was a period where I couldn't true pivot right out of a dash without rolling half the time... It worked fine without much buffer, but of course I also like to play with a fairly high buffer :\
Hooray for failing at true pivots!

Spoiler

+1 speaking for Neko :V

 

[leafgreen386]

Actually I'm pretty sure neko means sakurai pivot grabs (I'm telling you guys, if we just use this name no one will ever get confused).

 

[Magus420]

You could also call them turn grabs.

 

[ChaosKnight]

yea cause a true pivot grab and the dumb *** version brawl has made up lool is different xD

 

[GHNeko]

I'm talking about SP (Sakurai Pivot) Grabs because Brawl+ doesnt have that one frame during dash dancing where you're in a neutral stance.

 

[Dark Sonic]

I'm talking about SP (Sakurai Pivot) Grabs because Brawl+ doesnt have that one frame during dash dancing where you're in a neutral stance.

Yes it does. Pivoting works exactly the same way it did in melee. You can still pivot jab/tilt/smash/jump/ect (it's how my jablock infinite with sonic worked before we fixed jab locks <_<)

 

[GHNeko]

http://allisbrawl.com/forum/forum.aspx?fid=365

 

[VietGeek]

Btw Dark_Sonic.

How do you get to just stand in neutral from a pivot? I accidentally do it a lot in B+ and Melee...but you know it might be useful if I can intentionally force it.

Would also be useful for my Roy which sports totally being dumb. =V

*Fullhop Flare Blade while DL64 wind carries me to the ledge as they try to waveland back on*

It's only cooler cuz it worked rofl

 

[GHNeko]

Viet, your presence is required in Marth boards.

Also, get the Toon Links active on TL boards plz.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Btw Dark_Sonic.

How do you get to just stand in neutral from a pivot? I accidentally do it a lot in B+ and Melee...but you know it might be useful if I can intentionally force it.

Well, I don't think you can get a truely neutral stand (like dashing forward and just stopping), but you CAN pivot into your "turn around" animation. Just dash forward and flick the control stick back at the desired distance. If the flick was fast enough (not hard to do) you'll just do a normal turn around.

 

[ManRogue]

Any character with a good projectile can cause seriouse problems for even the best marth players, Falco and Samus are usually the most difficult, Samus due to her profectile combos and Falco's laser is just Godly

 

[ChaosKnight]

pffft only falco ... imo


samus cant do it as fast so you can get in easily

 

[SymphonicSage12]

Turnips

and peach's butt in general are hard for Marth to get through. >.>

 

[ChaosKnight]

srry falcos lasers are the only things imo that can stop him from getting inside lol .... XD

everything is too slow

 

[GHNeko]

Stop posting in this thread. MARTH+ BOARDS GUYS.

 

[VietGeek]

i dont recall peach's *** being bigger than the falchion

Stop posting in this thread. MARTH+ BOARDS GUYS.

that'd require me to log in

 

[GHNeko]

Do it man. I had to pull a **** load of strings for that place. ;__;

 

[PKNintendo]

Hey losers

- I mean winners.

Ness mains are CHALLENGING YOU PUNKS.
Gogogo.


This should be good now.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

So I've recently added marth to my main list...

and even with 10 buffer, he can't get two full fairs in a short hop anymore.

in fact, unless your buffer is 10, it's pretty much impossible to even get a partial second fair in there.

 

[GHNeko]

wait what?

you looking to get *****?

 

[PKNintendo]

Bring it.

Your boys vs ours.

 

[GHNeko]

Our fair is better than your fair.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

I know that Marth's fair is WAY better than Peach's fair. I'm just sad that I can't SHDF with Marth anymore.

(pssst in case you don't know for some reason, SHDF is Short Hop Double Fair)


and Peach's fair sucks >.>

 

[GHNeko]

You can still SHD Fair.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Our fair is better than your fair.

They've pretty much lost the matchup at this point

 

[SymphonicSage12]

no you can't. Doing to full ones is impossible. Even with 10 buffer.

I just tested this in both Normal and Training Mode.

Even with ten buffer, I almost always land on the ground like halfway through the second fair.

 

[GHNeko]

Then you're doing it wrong.

If you cant SHDF than you cant SH Fair > Uair.

And I can do both. Hell, I did it last night.

Me, the Marth main, is telling you, the non-marth main, you can SH Double Fair. You cannot tell me he cannot.

Stop it.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

I'm pretty sure my c stick is perfectly fine.


And no, you can't!! I'll even give you screenshots if I have to!!

 

[GHNeko]

omfg ur so n00b.

It's because you're a peach user.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

No I'm not!!!!


I have ten buffer on. My c stick is fine.

I short hop. I fair as soon as the buffer allows. I then fair, as soon as the buffer allows me to.

I always end up in the middle of the second fair animation when I land, right before the hitbox comes out, or slightly after. I'm pretty sure getting a full second fair in.

And you're just biased against peach mains because you can't get over her down smash.

 

[Melomaniacal]

I SH double fair all day every day.
Seriously, it's not even hard, haha.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

I need video proof that two FULL fairs in one short hop with the latest codeset is possible.


And shdf is not hard. I'm just saying that getting to fairs in one short hop is impossible.


God you marth mains are so *****y. >.>

 

[GHNeko]

I'm a scrub who can't even SHD Fair with Marth even 10 buffer

I can SH Double Fair and I use 7 buffer.

Get at me.

And shdf is not hard. I'm just saying that getting two fairs in one short hop is impossible.

....wat

 

[Melomaniacal]

And shdf is not hard. I'm just saying that getting to fairs in one short hop is impossible.

Oh, god...

MY HEAD! IT EXPLODES!