Squirtleknight is obnoxious obv :012:. - Marth+

[Meru.]

Not in English...

It does if you say Mart and not Marf. Marf is 2002 anyway.

Also, a question out of interest: what are Fart's Marth's worst match-ups? MK, Wolf, Sheik, Fox?

 

[GHNeko]

Since when has any spacie have had advantage over Marf?

 

[Meru.]

Since when has any spacie have had advantage over Marf?

They were just suggestions, I know little about Marth's match-ups, hence why I'm asking. Wolf was even in vBrawl, Fox... idk, seemed troublesome.

 

[zaf]

so yea i was playing more with elef tonight, against his ganon.

i grabbed him, fthrow off stage, i fair untippered him, fast falled and followed him into footstool

it works on more then one character then, you guys should try it out

 

[GHNeko]

that sounds sexy

realllll sexy.

did you get a replay? i can record it.

 

[JCaesar]

It does if you say Mart and not Marf. Marf is 2002 anyway.

I see you're from Europe so I'll let it slide, but neither of those are the English pronunciation of "Marth."

 

[VietGeek]

why is marth's name not mars? i mean that's what it is in that group of islands that make tons of cash

the world may never know :obv:

 

[zaf]

lol who cares about his name o,o
get back on topic viet lol
go test some fthrow > fair> footstool
and with footstool comes great spike chances

 

[GHNeko]

That's what I'm saying. Footstools by Marth = Death.

 

[VietGeek]

too bad most characters can meteor cancel and survive such an attempt even at 50-ish or so percents <_<

 

[GHNeko]

You could always be like a sonic and try to follow up the footstool with another one.

Cuz you can SH Footstools and then fast fall after you reach your peak. V:

 

[VietGeek]

that's so ballsy though

can martha even succeed?!

 

[GHNeko]

Marf's SH is pretty low for someone as floaty as he is. And he's a good fast faller. I'm pretty sure the window for being footstooled is long enough for him to SH FF to another footstool

 

[VietGeek]

he has like a roy ff its kinda ridiculous but all according to keikaku obv

also i don't remember if footstool jumps get affected by the same multipliers (in the grav code) as the normal SH/FH

 

[GHNeko]

Footstool jumps = Normal jumps.

And whatever multiplier for consecutive jumps are applied afterwards.

 

[VietGeek]

obv i have played too much melee and stomping on ppl via a non-attack command is most intriguing

 

[GHNeko]

zaf, what's the highest percent this has worked at?

can the DI be followed?

is there DI that can avoid follow ups?

 

[zaf]

i dont have replay or recording eq but i can send a video of me doing it

the highest percent ? i guess would be like 50 ?

i just followed the character and footstoled before they could get out of stun

i was thinking, cant marth like footstool > spike ?

so even if the footstool is meteor canceled, they are still being spiked

and by the time i footstool my opponent we are a little under the level of the stage
so a spike at that low of a height is pretty much dead no?

 

[GHNeko]

Well, you can't Meteor cancel footstools IIRC. Just spikes.

So I'm thinking with Marth's gravity. If you Short hop the footstool and then fast fall into another footstool, you can spike the second one for guaranteed death.

 

[zaf]

during the throw into fair footstool you use a jump so u can only use one more to footstool

zoobo and viet, if you want i can show you this later today
but ill need you to add me to a messaging program ( like msn) so i can show you via webcam

 

[GHNeko]

Well you can just give me the replay.

I almost pulled this off on a peach at around 50% on WW. I had a lot of follow up time to do this.

This sounds too good to be true.

 

[zaf]

ok so i have a replay. i got my bro to pick shiek ( with di of course har har)

ok so basically there is spacing for this needed. marth needs to be able to get a dashed sh fair after the fthrow to be able to use a 2nd jump for the footstool.

if you are to close to the edge and just fall of the stage to fair it makes this more difficult to land a footstool because of character positioning after both situations.

1st stock = fail

2nd stock = perfect

3rd stock = another good run with a variation of a gimp i thought up.
i got back on stage to test again. 2nd run = fail

last stock = this works well at low percents lol

tell me a way to send this to you and i will

 

[zaf]

no one wants to see it now that i have a vid =S

 

[GHNeko]

I wanna see

upload it somewhere. and send to me

 

[VietGeek]

Good vid zaf. I'll try it soon; looks good albeit still mad situational.

But yeah thanks for going out of your way to show the video to me. <3

 

[ChaosKnight]

just post the youtube link ?

 

[VietGeek]

good luck CK

ur gonna need it

 

[GHNeko]

I still need to record this vid

 

[zaf]

yea neko has it,
but i do not think it is that situational
i get it done enough in a few matches

 

[VietGeek]

you do well to support us zaf

better than playing that bland bair monster tool link mirite

<___<;

 

[zaf]

i just got tired of toon link because you can out smart people with him easily, but the character just sucks and doesnt help my brain do what it wants to. marth however has sex with my brain and works better, tippers are sexy, i like them



viet or neko do either of you live in new york?
ill be there from july 21-30
maybe we can meet up and play or something ?

 

[5ive]

i just got tired of toon link because you can out smart people with him easily, but the character just sucks and doesnt help my brain do what it wants to. marth however has sex with my brain and works better, tippers are sexy, i like them



viet or neko do either of you live in new york?
ill be there from july 21-30
maybe we can meet up and play or something ?

lolno but you're close to Toronto play us.

 

[zaf]

haha 5ivey lol. I won't be in toronto any time soon. I dont know when i have time to go there
i might have like an extra week of vacation, ill see what i can do

 

[VietGeek]

yeah srry zaf but both of us are in the dirty souf lol (neko is in texas which is midwest/atl south/Quebec status tho [irrelevant])

you can probably see if you can play the Insomniac members like GuruKid and other peeps in NYC *shrug*

record vids =V

 

[zaf]

where would i go about asking, is there like a new york thread or something lol
i just want to play b+, not vbrawl

 

[GHNeko]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237803

 

[RiteToRmnSilent]

Have any of you guys ever tried DB first hit to dair? It's like a ken combo, and is a great mix up since no one expects it. Certainly try it sometime. I've been using it to intercept people trying to recover pretty effectively. It seems to work best if you hit with the outer hitboxes on DB first hit, then immediately do a dair without jumping. It almost perfectly places them in the right spot to get hit with the tip of dair. Only problem is dair's spike hitbox seems messed up and only works sometimes. In fact, I would love a fix for that...pretty annoying hitting someone with the tip of dair and either it passes right through them, or doesn't spike.