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My thoughts on the matchup change alot. I think its even...but i could honestly settle for like..55/45. I think snake has much much much more to learn though.Lol you're wrong.
But keep believing...its the only way.
Optionwise it looks even but in ability for the human mind to execute commands it's not even on an equal skill level, not even close imo. Most people don't believe in set skill levels and inability to progress beyond a certain point but I do. Your reaction speed will always be the same, you just max it out when you learn to apply it. MK has too many options that you have to read individually, you have no options that blanked anything meaning you have to predict everything. By factor of random luck you will guess wrong assuming your opponent mixes it up even slightly, so the only way to punish everything MK does is to react at a speed that isn't humanly possible.My thoughts on the matchup change alot. I think its even...but i could honestly settle for like..55/45. I think snake has much much much more to learn though.
snake doesn't need to punish everything MK does, MK needs to hit snake more often in factthe only way to punish everything MK does is to react at a speed that isn't humanly possible.
Optionwise it looks even but in ability for the human mind to execute commands it's not even on an equal skill level, not even close imo. Most people don't believe in set skill levels and inability to progress beyond a certain point but I do. Your reaction speed will always be the same, you just max it out when you learn to apply it. MK has too many options that you have to read individually, you have no options that blanked anything meaning you have to predict everything. By factor of random luck you will guess wrong assuming your opponent mixes it up even slightly, so the only way to punish everything MK does is to react at a speed that isn't humanly possible.
Reaction speed has nothing to do with fingers and everything to do with mental processing speed.I don't believe that the reaction speed is always the same. Why? for example tennis players, they practice a lot obviously, they improve their reaction time with diferent exercises and playing more and since tennis requires a great reaction speed, they are prone and exposed to improve that speed. One of my best friends plays tennis in events and things like that, and he has a pretty awesome reaction speed, so bad that he can't play that much because he has a kid to attend but he improved that reaction speed with practice and a lot of players of different sports too.
... I know that, that's why I am saying. I didnt wrote about "physical exercises" to get better at it, but to react at the speed and different angle of launches of a ball and the patters that they other player may have, you need a great reaction speed, so that they work on it in order to be good. Everyone or almost everyone knows how to hit catch a ball in a baseball game but yet not everyone has the speed to catch one, two options u were born too good reaction speed or you worked your *** in order to have a good one. not by practicing how to catch a ball.Reaction speed has nothing to do with fingers and everything to do with mental processing speed.
Reaction speed is spontaneous and has nothing to do with practiced actions. You can practice punishing something but you can't practice how quickly your brain realizes it happens.
i played horribly and sd'd but believe what you want lolI have to say, I love Havok's advice on this matchup!! really easy to understand and clearcut to the point lol.
Ohhh and you guys really do need to let go of the whole MK is impossible to beat mindset. I'm NEW to snake (about 3 weeks) and I've already taken games and sets off of experienced MK mains like Orion, Big M, etc. in friendlies and I don't even know the matchup completely yet. MK can gimp snake, but snake wins in % output ratio. Thats it.
I agree with AfroThundah, and after watching Bizkit vs Ksizzle a couple weeks/a month? ago @ Doom's... I realized that Snake vs MK really isn't as impossible as everyone thinks. Considering they went game 3 last hit... which is also the reason I picked up Snake. Bizkit inspired me <3. So cmon guys! Let's step it up and shut all these MK's down!!
its hard ? :S , I always considered MK so easy to techchase, maybe is just that I may have a good reaction time IDK. :/ I hate techchasing marth thoughhavok's **** post is ****
however, MK's get up attack hits towards and then away, not away then towards. not sure on what frame but it's pretty hard to react to. but if you dthrow at the edge and turn around and shield, free regrab if he rolls, free ftilt/dair otherwise
a bit off topic :marth is much harder, but yeah, if you can block most characters that have a towards first get up attack on reaction while also able to react to his other options, your reaction time is probably pretty good as most are like 10-15 frames IIRC, which is about as fast as most people react to something that they expect, not counting that they have to determine what happened and act accordingly
maybe just me idk, I have **** reaction time, I just read mostly
should clarify that my early statement meant this. snake isn't going to have a huge problem getting back 5-20% or whatever, but if he gets deep in the hole he's bad at making it up. to some extent most characters have this problem, even MK, but I think snake suffers particularly badly from itGetting the lead back isn't terribly bad unless it's a very solid lead, like an early gimp or something.
You're good at doing what Pierce has problems with, which is hard camping. You'll see what I mean if you watch the videos he posted of RJ's MK. Plus, you're not bad vs Snake IMO. You could improve, but you did beat Fatal in a set. I just notice that you panic when you fall behind in % and start nadoing too much into nades.i dont even think im good vs snake lol, i suck as with nado which is like half the matchup.
I def agree with this statement, an mk that knows how to camp is extremely hard to beat.Getting the lead back when the MK intentionally baits you and runs away is not only incredibly hard but really frustrating and stupid. Most MKs dont play the matchup like that, and in fact most MKs are pretty terrible at this match up by comparison.
Playing Se1br1k is too gay.
true true true trueGetting the lead back when the MK intentionally baits you and runs away is not only incredibly hard but really frustrating and stupid. Most MKs dont play the matchup like that, and in fact most MKs are pretty terrible at this match up by comparison.
Playing Se1br1k is too gay.