Snake Q&A

[Tero.]

Because? And why can't he beat M2K easily?

Please answer both questions

Because M2K is M2K lol

 

[hdrevolution123]

Because M2K is M2K lol

And why is Ally Ally? Why is Ally so kick ***? You should know if you've been against him

 

[Black_Heretic]

M2K is the best, thats why, Ally is running up there with him though

and don't double post, there is an edit button for a reason

 

[misterpimp5757]

who would win between ally and dsf? ally and ultimaterazer?

 

[Ken Neth]

What are the point of these questions? There is no way to know the answer until they actually fight.

 

[hdrevolution123]

who would win between ally and dsf? ally and ultimaterazer?

That's a good question. Those pairs should brawl each other more.

 

[youngtweety]

who would win between ally and dsf? ally and ultimaterazer?

I am starting to think you are trying to artificially raise your post count. You are posting silly things that either can't be answered or have an easily found answer. You aren't funny, most are ignoring you, and you aren't helping anyone.

 

[Black_Heretic]

That's a good question. Those pairs should brawl each other more.

or...y'know, for the first time

I am starting to think you are trying to artificially raise your post count. You are posting silly things that either can't be answered or have an easily found answer. You aren't funny, most are ignoring you, and you aren't helping anyone.

calm down, if you think he's spamming or "artificially raising his post count" isn't responding to it doing the same for you? if you don't like him ignore him and leave it at that or argue via PMs, this is the Q&A

 

[hdrevolution123]

or...y'know, for the first time

calm down, if you think he's spamming or "artificially raising his post count" isn't responding to it doing the same for you? if you don't like him ignore him and leave it at that or argue via PMs, this is the Q&A

Sorry. I didn't he was a frequent spammer. I responded cos I didn't know that

 

[misterpimp5757]

ok so i see a bunch of *******es hating on me cuz apparantly i want my "post count up".

thank you blackheretic and others for backing me up.

i just wanted an opinion on what you think how the matchup would end up going.

btw i havent been posting stupid questions ******* (well bsides the snakedash and the nair bcuz i wanted to see if you guys would answer me or redirect me to some other sticky and i did it for the lulz). did you not see the question i posted before this one???? geez ignorant people these days....

edit: i am too.........like show offy with my nades...is this bad?

like i do a light tossed nade then jump and push Z to grab it and either i throw it down or a push Z again to drop it in midair. another thing i do is throw a nade by just pushing B then i shield drop another one grab the one i shield dropped and push b so that the opponent thinks that i threw it.

is this a bad thing? since i am wasting my time in a match doing this even though i think it helps just a bit?

 

[Browny]

Why is bair so good?

And does anyone else use ledgehop bairs -> regrab as an edgeguard like me? It works well against pikachu quick attack, marths recovery :D

 

[misterpimp5757]

hey i never thought of that sounds pretty helpful to me (especially against marth).

 

[Tero.]

ok so i see a bunch of *******es hating on me cuz apparantly i want my "post count up".

who cares about post count anyway?

Spoiler

(+1)

just relax guys and get back to snake discussion cause that's why we're here mirite? =)

 

[misterpimp5757]

yea you are. lol.

 

[Black_Heretic]

Why is bair so good?

And does anyone else use ledgehop bairs -> regrab as an edgeguard like me? It works well against pikachu quick attack, marths recovery :D

I generally wouldn't risk the stagespike but its pretty good a few times a set

@ MP, we always direct to the stickies, no need to test us =p

 

[misterpimp5757]

(requoting question)
i am too.........like show offy with my nades...is this bad?

like i do a light tossed nade then jump and push Z to grab it and either i throw it down or a push Z again to drop it in midair. another thing i do is throw a nade by just pushing B then i shield drop another one grab the one i shield dropped and push b so that the opponent thinks that i threw it.

is this a bad thing? since i am wasting my time in a match doing this even though i think it helps just a bit?

 

[Ken Neth]

As long as you don't get punished for it then there is nothing wrong with doing that. It can add some extra mindgames in some cases. Just make sure you won't get punished for getting fancy before you do it.

 

[Black_Heretic]

its a pretty good way to cook them without people realizing it sometimes

is your flashiness losing you matches? if not, you're not too flashy

 

[misterpimp5757]

no its not. i just think im wasting my time sometimes.

 

[K 2]

What's the difference between Snake's taunts, other than the time limit?

Which taunt is shortest, time-wise?

 

[Ken Neth]

You can make him get out of his box whenever you want by just pushing A. I'm pretty sure they're all the same. But even if they aren't, I don't see why taunts even matter, LOL.

 

[Jar'd]

Up taunt is fastest, left and right taunts are the medium speed, and down taunt is the slowest.

Edit: Or maybe I read the question wrong and you should just listen to Ken.

 

[fromundaman]

You can make him get out of his box whenever you want by just pushing A. I'm pretty sure they're all the same. But even if they aren't, I don't see why taunts even matter, LOL.

I want to edge guard with his taunt so badly... The box works the same as the Wario's Bike right? If so then it should be possible...

 

[Ken Neth]

It can hit multiple times, but it hits people sideways, so pretty much your only chance of getting a box kill is if it happens to stage spike them.

 

[K 2]

Oh thanks.

I got another question. When I use the first part of Snake's ftilt, it sometimes keeps them stunned in place, it sometimes trips them, and it sometimes knocks them really far (so far, that I can't follow up with ftilt 2). Why does this happen? Is there anyway to control it?

 

[_Phloat_]

Oh thanks.

I got another question. When I use the first part of Snake's ftilt, it sometimes keeps them stunned in place, it sometimes trips them, and it sometimes knocks them really far (so far, that I can't follow up with ftilt 2). Why does this happen? Is there anyway to control it?

And to build on this question... What is inescapable after the trip?

 

[Black_Heretic]

Oh thanks.

I got another question. When I use the first part of Snake's ftilt, it sometimes keeps them stunned in place, it sometimes trips them, and it sometimes knocks them really far (so far, that I can't follow up with ftilt 2). Why does this happen? Is there anyway to control it?

ok, first hit of ftilt's effects:
the tripping is random
the stun is the regular effect of the first hit of ftilt

it has knockback when the opponent is basically inside of you or when they're in the air

And to build on this question... What is inescapable after the trip?

I think a jab, another ftilt, grab, and probably uptilt but there might be some I missed that somebody else will elaborate further on

 

[misterpimp5757]

at K 2: the ftilt that makes them go far is if you land the knee while the opponent is in midair.

most of the time it will keep them stunned, once in a while it will trip them. and no you cannot control it.

at phloat: im not sure what is inescapable, maybe fsmash?

and about the box thing. if i am correct back then in august when the snake boards were dead, A LOT of people were claiming that each box has bigger knockback. i think it was down taunt that had the biggest knockback.

 

[Black_Heretic]

fsmash is escapable

 

[K 2]

Wait, is it possible to "lock" someone in the stun of ftilt 1? I've seen multiple videos demonstrate a ftilt 1 lock, but these were in combo videos, so the opponents might just suck and not know how to get out of it.

 

[Black_Heretic]

the can DI out and I think powershield it too, just go for the jab -> ftilt and get back to nade camping

 

[_Phloat_]

Yea, its the opponent sucking.

 

[Ken Neth]

Try this one when you have double snakes in teams. When it's down to 2v1 get the person in between the two snakes and just do the first ftilt over and over. It's too good if you space it correctly. My friend and I have gotten it in a match before. It's so funny.

 

[Black_Heretic]

sounds fun :D and never tried that, is it inescapable or can they like, DI up and jump out?

 

[Ken Neth]

I don't know, I'm guessing not. Cause the first ftilt stuns them on the ground for your next hit. But if they keep getting hit with the first hit over and over without time to recover from the stun, then I'm pretty sure they can't get out.

That's all theory craft though. I can't test it out right now because it's too hard to time two snakes doing f tilt and trying to DI with a third controller all by yourself lol.

 

[fromundaman]

It can hit multiple times, but it hits people sideways, so pretty much your only chance of getting a box kill is if it happens to stage spike them.

Awww....
10toobads

 

[beenman]

is it common knowledge that you can grab from holding a grenade, its just i've never seen it done?

 

[Ken Neth]

I'm assuming most people know that. Cause once you shield drop your grenade you can do anything you normally could from your shield, including grabbing. It's a good mix-up to use.

 

[beenman]

but you can grab stright away, by pressing grab. no shild animation at all

 

[Black_Heretic]

shielding first is generally safer though so we do that