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SMASHPOLL: The 2010 Federal Election

Who are you going to vote for?

  • Labor

    Votes: 5 10.4%
  • Liberal

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • Democrats

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Australian Sex Party

    Votes: 19 39.6%
  • Socialist Party

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • Independents

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Family First

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • Total voters
    48
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Shaya

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What's wrong with slavery?

It's a commodity that is the backbone of the modern industrial age, as well as constitutes a large majority of workers in the oldest occupation in human history (read: prostitution).
Without it, the clothes we wear today may actually be... EXPENSIVE. And the women we see at bars and night clubs may actually have pride and realise they should be at home in the kitchen and not registered for voting, or going to school past the age of 14.
 

xXArrowXx

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yeah i got that toby.
also no money to hold such parties.

dont get me wrong... i like immigration
i dislike illegal immigration
illegal immigration can = aslyum seekers
therefore stricter means of discerning.
the whole aslyum seeker topic needs alot of work tho :/
 

luke_atyeo

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you know what, the greens are bad and I'm not going to vote for them
why?
because I hate the color green
 

xXArrowXx

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zxv's favourite colour :<

green berets

green stars

green greens

i dislike the colour tooo
red is labour, blue is liberal.. both seem acceptable colours.
whats the ASP colour? i bet its a sexy colour.
 

luke_atyeo

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if green cant be a good color, what chance does it have at being a good government?
 

LarryLD

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For those who don't think they're immigrants.

If you're not of full aboriginal blood decent(from memory the last full blooded aboriginal died in the 1930's or something along those lines) you're an immigrant, simple as that.

How are you any different from someone coming from a war torn country? Your ancestors ( if you wanna call your grandparents/great grandparents that) came here within the last hundred years and now you have the right to tell others stay the **** out?

Interesting logic
 

Pete278

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The Russians have the right to tell people to get out of the land they took off the Finnish and the Japanese, so yes.

EDIT: It might not be obvious this is a joke, but it is.
 

xXArrowXx

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ah so you are born a immigrant..
native: belonging to a locality or country by birth

pretty sure my ancesstors took by force o.o' indiginous would have had the right to tells us to gtfo. but ancestors were like boom shakalacka. then had kids, who then become natives. then the topic gets engulfed by racism. maaaan my ancestors were douches. anyway since we are natives now we have the right to refuse these illegal immirgates. should be other ways around it tho for aslyum seekers. adopt a asylum seeker?
 

tibs7

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Watching gillard on 7pm project just makes me hate her more.....

Does anyone here like her?
 

LarryLD

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As a strong Labor voter I don't really like her or dislike her.

Indifferent really, but its not the person I vote for, its the party and the polices.
 

unreon

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dont get me wrong... i like immigration
i dislike illegal immigration
illegal immigration can = aslyum seekers
therefore stricter means of discerning.
the whole aslyum seeker topic needs alot of work tho :/
That's the thing though. What the media doesn't tell you is that there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. It's complete waffle that the media invented and projects onwards to this day. In fact, every single one of the statements you made about immigration are basically misconceptions that I'm sure we all fall for time and time again :/

Here is a great summary stolen from Neogaf. I suggest everyone read this because it is severely lacking in awareness.

Neogaf said:
MYTH 21: Asylum seekers are illegal immigrants
FACT 21:
There is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker. Australia is a signatory to the Refugee Convention of 1951 which means that a person is able to seek asylum in Australia by boat or plane, with documents or undocumented. They are breaking no laws under the Refugee Convention of 1951

MYTH 22: Asylum seekers don’t need to come all the way to Australia, they could stop in another country along the way.
Fact 22:
• There is no queue or processing system for asylum seekers to come from Afghanistan or Iraq.
• There is no requirement under the Refugee Convention for a person to seek refuge in their first country of arrival.
• For asylum seekers who make it to Indonesia from the Middle East, the available countries who are signatories to the Refugee Convention and accept refugees is very limited. Indonesia is not a signatory. From Indonesia to Australia only Thailand and Cambodia are signatories.

MYTH 23: We are seeing more people coming by boat because of a softening of our border protection policy
Fact: 23
• Annual figures released 16th of June 2014 [10] by the UN refugee agency show that some 43.3 million people were forcibly displaced worldwide at the end of 2009, the highest number of people uprooted by conflict and persecution since the mid-1990s.

Myth 24: Asylum Seekers who come by boat from Indonesia just don’t want to wait their turn in the queue
Fact 24:
• The Australian Government refuses to accept any asylum seekers assessed as refugees by the UNHCR who have arrived after 2007 in Indonesia.
• In the last 3 years the Australian Government has settled each year an average of just 52 refugees from Indonesia in Australia.
The waiting period in the ‘queue’ for a refugee in Indonesia (who is not a signatory to the Refugee Convention) seeking settlement in Australia is on average 37 years.

MYTH 25: People seek asylum in Australia to get access to government support and live the good life here. Asylum seekers who can afford to come by boat are economic migrants.
FACT 25:
• Asylum Seekers do not leave their country due to choice. People seek asylum because they fear for their safety and life in their home country. They leave by whatever means they can.
No asylum seekers have access to: Centrelink, a Health Care Card, Public Housing, Settlement Services, English Programs, Job Services Australia, Traineeships or Tertiary Education. Many also have no right to even work or a Medicare Card.
Read the rest of it here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22424437&postcount=7
 

luke_atyeo

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larry buddy, your a bit out of touch there.
see, I was born in australia, as were my parents.

now the funny thing about immagration is that you have to have migrated to a place from somewhere else.

now read again the part where I was born here, does that sound like migrating to you?
now go look in the mirror, raise your right hand, slowy, and place it over your face.
 

LarryLD

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larry buddy, your a bit out of touch there.
see, I was born in australia, as were my parents.
How exactly do you think your grandparents came to be here in Australia? You (and the rest of us) are 100% the product of Immigration.

My point is simple, don't bash on Immigration ,it's what has made this country great.


Also, nice job Unreon
 

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i just want to add my personal opinions about immigration: just because you have the fortunate privilege of being born into a first world society like this one, does not mean you should feel a sense of entitlement to dismiss those who are trying to find a better life here -- it's blatantly selfish and inhumanitarian. we all exist here through an act of immigration, wether it is from yourself or your recent ancestry. why deny candidates and their future children (which are going to be people just like us) their human right? supporting (anti/reduced/moderated) immigration isn't even a christian value (good samaritan act, compassion, love thy neighbour as you love yourself, etc). i hate to draw a religious backup to this debate, but i do so only to demonstrate there are NO grounds, within any ideology (besides protectionist parties like one nation and cdp), behind anti/moderated immigration.

if people think australia can't handle the rate of immigration, consider that australia's rate of immigration uptake has currently been adjusted to be lower than the rate it has been since world war ii. federal projections are now set at 1.2% to make 36 million by 2050. it was at it's peak just after world war ii, and surely enough, it was also the most prosperous era in australian history (we're talking unemployment rates of 2%). we had a very high immigration rate a few years ago when australia's economy was also at its highest since the post wwii bubble. any suggestion immigrants reduce money and/or wealth distribution is completely wrong -- they create money and set up the country to be a bigger and more diversified mass market to trade in.

at some point in the last decade, australians have seemed to become less confident about having 'boundless plans to share,' even the desirability of being big. the rates of immigration have varied only a little for decades. yet in recent times political hysteria about a few boat refugees has threatened to overwhelm australia's successful population strategy: the populate or perish strategy -- a successful approach to multiculturalism, which promised and generally delivered inclusion, respect for diversity and equity, is forever constantly under theat. eastern europeans arriving here in the 50's, asians arriving here in the 80's and middle easterns/indians/africans coming here in the 00's -- all immigration waves are subject to racism and criticism about their value to australia -- yet we all get over our unfounded fears when we actually realize they're going to be just like us -- so stop worrying.








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edit 2: tibi, give me reasons why you don't like gillard. i'd prefer substantiated, non-superficial responses if possible c: also remember, you're not voting for her, but the member representing your seat. my advice would be to do some research on them since gillard/abbott/brown won't represent you directly.
 

unreon

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Oh yes, I voted today. Bit early because I'll be out of town on real day.

1. Greens
2. Labor
3. Liberal
4. Christian somethingsomething.

and voted below the line too, all 84 places. Miscounted and had to ask for a new sheet >< So embarrassing lol.
 

luke_atyeo

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your point may or may not stand larry, but thats not the point.


the point is I'm not an immigrant.

if my grandparents were immigrants, that doesnt make me an immigrant, because I havnt immagrated from anywhere.

if my grandparetns were murderer's, that doesnt make me a murderer, because I havnt killed anyone.

god I love being podantic
 

tibs7

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Hmm i'm not to sure if I can give non-superficial points about why I hate gillard....nah joking, I'll post something tomorrow on my hatred for gillard. Too much effort on iPhone :(
 

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Oh yes, I voted today. Bit early because I'll be out of town on real day.

1. Greens
2. Labor
3. Liberal
4. Christian somethingsomething.

and voted below the line too, all 84 places. Miscounted and had to ask for a new sheet >< So embarrassing lol.
i'm proud of you unnypoo!
 

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This thread sure isn't "OMG YOU LIKE GREENS/LABOUR I LOVE YOU" "wtf LIBERAL? YOU CAN ONLY HAVE BIASED UNJUSTIFIED REASONS!!!!!!!!! DEVIL CHILD!!!"

Anyway screw politics this election, I'm very much over the fact that both suck and that some people are trying to argue that one sucks less than the other... I know who I'm voting for... Meta Knight... and the order from there being the tier list.
and if there's room (of course there will be) then melee for the senate.
 

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whats wrong with nuclear? apart from it being not renewable..
we should just use it til we get solar power more affordable and efficent.
nuclear power is cleaner than coal anyway.
That's kinda what I was meant to be getting at - me being annoyed at the greens since they are determined not to allow a nuclear reactor be built in australia.
 

luke_atyeo

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I'm thinking of writing DEKAR in big block letters on mine.
that'll convey a clear message to the goverment.
 

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I feel odd though...

if you said to me last election that you were cbf and going to null it...

i'd be like "wtf you ****wit you're wasting your vote"

maybe the null votes will outnumber all else and that'll convey a clear message to the government.
 

unreon

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That's kinda what I was meant to be getting at - me being annoyed at the greens since they are determined not to allow a nuclear reactor be built in australia.
I agree with you and Arrow; nuclear power plants really are becoming fantastic, viable options for energy generation. Especially with recent times producing fantastic energy yields for little - very little - waste.

The nuclear waste produced by a plant in one year amounts to something the size of a refrigerator.
 

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And my question is, where is that nuclear waste going to go?
And how long will it 'last' as dangerous material that can't be used for anything else / effecting the area it inhibits?
 

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Pfft, the radioactivity of that waste is less likely to damage anything than being outside. The longer its radioactive, the less radiation its emitting per second, the safer it is. Nuclear physics yo.
 

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Wow wtf I'm agreeing with JP on something. I think they should reduce the amount of nuclear power they use until there are viable options for the storage of waste. I believe they are working on metal complex ions which safely hold the radioactive waste. Also i think they found some minerals which do similar such things. Even better they should spend more money on researching better fuel sources like hydrogen power.

Edit: Pete that is not true (some of it anyway).
 
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