SmashBoards Creates: A more fleshed-out SSBM (Job #22: Event Matches 1-10)

[Deleted member]

Marth and Game and Watch. I could be swayed any way for the third pick.

 

[Butters Stotch]

Not trying to throw shade on the SSBU Plus thread, but do you think this one will outlast that?

 

[Perkilator]

Not trying to throw shade on the SSBU Plus thread, but do you think this one will outlast that?

Hopefully.

 

[Speed Weed]

I nominate Marth, Ganon and G&W

 

[Butters Stotch]

Hopefully.

Since the idea of a delayed Melee has gained some traction after David V. Kimball's video, I'd say it's more than likely now that I think about it.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

I also agree with FazDude 's choices, since Ganondorf is important character to zelda series.
Well, Marth would represent new series and Mr. G&W would be cool historical nintend rep.

 

[Perkilator]

Not trying to throw shade on the SSBU Plus thread, but do you think this one will outlast that?

You know, expanding upon this, I’m actually thinking of bringing it back to life but with some important changes. Just not right now.

 

[ssbashworld]

I agree with Marth, G&W, & Ganondorf assuming we now have the time to properly flesh out Ganondorf as his own unique fighter.

 

[Perkilator]

Alright, the majority seems to agree , so we'll be adding them into this roster! So with that, let's do this extra dev time the justice it deserves.

Job #10: Rework Ganondorf​

We know Ganon's portrayal as a Falcin clone was received...less than kindly, to be blunt. So let's think of some ways to spice him up! Do we have some Falcon with more Ganondorf mixed in, or do we completely overhaul him? I'm gonna leave that up to you guys, but here's my idea if anyone's interested:

• Neutral Special: Dark Wave
  • Ganondorf's left backhand shines, displaying the Triforce of Power, as darkness surrounds it. Ganondorf then punches the opponent, with a large front-facing crescent shockwave pushing back any opponents in its vicinity. Basically Warlock Punch, but with added "stay away" elements and endlag.
• Side Special: Flame Choke
  • Ganondorf dashes forward and grabs the opponent, choking them and then dropping them onto the ground.
• Up Special: Dark Dive
  • Ganondorf leaps up to grab on opponent. Anyone grabbed gets subjected to electrocution before Ganondorf meteor smashes them with his two feet, giving him a footstool jump in the process.
• Down Special: Dead Man's Volley
  • Ganondorf charges an orb of light and tosses it at the opponent. If it gets reflected, Ganondorf can then reflect it back at them. The more it's reflected, the faster it moves and the longer the target is paralyzed should they get hit, although the power is never multiplied.

 

[Perkilator]

I figured more people would jump at the chance to rework Ganondorf...oh well.

Job #11: Submit 3 clone characters​

Even with another year, clones are indeed inevitable. It can be either a clone as a retained fighter or a new fighter.

 

[Butters Stotch]

Been kinda busy today, so I didn't get time to provide my own take on Ganondorf.

Just wondering, will the votes for this job be separated for each character or will it be based on everything certain users submit? I'll keep the answer in mind when I make my submissions.

 

[Perkilator]

Been kinda busy today, so I didn't get time to provide my own take on Ganondorf.

Just wondering, will the votes for this job be separated for each character or will it be based on everything certain users submit? I'll keep the answer in mind when I make my submissions.

The votes will be separate for each character. The top 3 will win.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Clone Characters:
Falco

Fox's teammate in Star Fox.
He would be weaker, but faster clone of Fox.

Black Shadow

Captain Falcon's Rival.
He would be heavier clone of Captain Falcon.

Roy

He would be faster clone of Marth.

 

[FazDude]

I'm in the same boat as Butters; I really wanna rework Ganondorf, but I was super busy last night and today, hence why I never got around to it. I'd be happy to submit something if given another chance.

Anywho, as for the clones, I pretty much agree with Tankman from Newgrounds .

 

[Butters Stotch]

Job 11:

With his popularity in the Smash 2 poll, Falco is a no-brainer.

Since Falco has already been submitted, I'll throw in Toad as a Mario semi-clone. It would be neat to have the whole MK64 roster playable, as well as referencing the rumor of him being a hidden character. With his appearance in Mario 2, he could borrow from both the Bros and Peach.

The other two, Ray and Blaziken, like Ganondorf in the OG Melee, would be cross series clones, inheriting the movesets of Samus and Falcon respectively. The concept of Ray as a clone of Samus is a cool idea I saw on GameFAQs and, with the versatile nature of the character, it very well could work, as well as representing a new series. We could make him a semi-clone.

Blaziken as a Falcon clone is a very common and fitting idea that I've seen tossed around here and there and it could help promote Gen 3, given this delay extends into 2002 and development for Ruby/Sapphire was certainly underway by then.

 

[Perkilator]

Star Fox's surly pilot is now prepped for combat!​

Quick and nimble and ready to roll!​

Not the most original choice, but Roy our's boy regardless!​

 

[Perkilator]

Job 11:

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With his popularity in the Smash 2 poll, Falco is a no-brainer.

Since Falco has already been submitted, I'll throw in Toad as a Mario semi-clone. It would be neat to have the whole MK64 roster playable, as well as referencing the rumor of him being a hidden character. With his appearance in Mario 2, he could borrow from both the Bros and Peach.

The other two, Ray and Blaziken, like Ganondorf in the OG Melee, would be cross series clones, inheriting the movesets of Samus and Falcon respectively. The idea of Ray as a clone of Samus is a cool idea I saw on GameFAQs and, with the versatile nature of the character, it very well could work, as well as representing a new series. We could make him a semi-clone.

Blaziken as a Falcon clone is a very common and fitting idea that I've seen tossed around here and there and it could help promote Gen 3, given this delay extends into 2002 and development for Ruby/Sapphire was certainly underway by then.

If Blaziken isn't viable, then I'll go with Gooey instead, as we don't have a second Kirby character.

You know what? I'm fine with a Gen 3 rep as a clone.

 

[Butters Stotch]

You know what? I'm fine with a Gen 3 rep as a clone.

In that case, ignore the submission for Gooey, as I imagine we'll get a Dedede submission later down the line.

 

[Perkilator]

In that case, ignore the submission for Gooey, as I imagine we'll get a Dedede submission later down the line.

Oh...well, we will use Dedede for something later, but it won't be as a fighter, sadly. These 3 clones are the last fighters we'll be submitting.

 

[Butters Stotch]

Oh...well, we will use Dedede for something later, but it won't be as a fighter, sadly. These 3 clones are the last fighters we'll be submitting.

Alright, thanks for the heads up.

 

[Deleted member]

Gonna propose Wolf, Daisy and Roy

I like Falco but I think it would be nice to go with a villian. Daisy could be fun to see and Roy is our boy.

I did consider Leif instead but Roy won out.

 

[Perkilator]

Gonna propose Wolf, Daisy and Roy

I like Falco but I think it would be nice to go either a villian. Daisy could be fun to see and Roy is our boy.

I did consider Leif instead but Roy won out.

I've already submitted Roy, so Leif is fine.

 

[Deleted member]

I've already submitted Roy, so Leif is fine.

I'll submit Leif then.

 

[ssbashworld]

Takamaru (really like this idea of him as a Marth clone from video in op)

Lucas (was supposedly be considered as a replacement to Ness, with the extra development time why not have both)

Excitebiker (Falcon clone with Mach Rider alt)

 

[AlRex]

I’ll put forward Lyn as a Marth semi-clone, fights more with a rapier/quick kind of style, also has a crossbow that builds off of Link’s bow & arrow use.

After her, Birdo as a slight modification of Yoshi. She’d use similar egg type of moves, but may also be able to shoot out fireballs or even suck in foes like Kirby.

Probably the biggest stretch of all, but Blastoise as a semi-clone of Bowser. Body-wise, it sort of works, and you could retain the shell-spinning and replace fire-shooting with water-shooting. If they remained in later installments, you’d probably have to rework them.

 

[Otoad64]

I’m gonna submit Baby Mario as a Mario clone, who would be like the Mario equivalent to Young Link, Young Link, who would be the Link equivalent of Young Link, and Plusle with a Minun alt, who would be like Pichu but would rep gen 3 since we already have a Johto mon.

 

[Perkilator]

• Falco
• Black Shadow
• Roy
• Toad
• Ray
• Blaziken
• Young Link
• Wolf
• Daisy
• Leif
• Takamaru
• Lucas
• Excitebiker
• Lyn
• Birdo
• Blastoise
• Baby Mario
• Plusle / Minun

Vote for your top 3 in no particular order. For me:

1. Blaziken
2. Falco
3. Plusle / Minun

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

1. Roy
2. Falco
3. Black Shadow

 

[Deleted member]

1. Black Shadow
2. Wolf
3. Roy

 

[FazDude]

1. Blaziken
2. Toad
3. Roy

 

[Butters Stotch]

1. Lyn
2. Falco
3. Blaziken

 

[AlRex]

1. Blaziken
2. Black Shadow
3. Blastoise
Bla bla bla, it seems

 

[Otoad64]

1. Falco
2. Black Shadow
3. Plusle/Minun

 

[The Smash Nerd II.0.]

1. Wolf
2. Blaziken
3. Lyn

 

[ssbashworld]

Wolf
Excitebiker
Young Link

 

[92MilesPrower]

Blaziken
Wolf
Roy

(I also have a decloned Ganondorf moveset that I really want to show as well. Also I thought a Rare character being added was mentioned? 27 fighters rather than 28 for a neat rectangle seems a bit weird to me, but I digress)

 

[Perkilator]

Falco: 9​	Black Shadow: 8​	Roy: 8​
Toad: 2​	Ray: 0​	Blaziken: 15​
Young Link: 1​	Wolf: 10​	Daisy: 0​
Leif: 0​	Takamaru: 0​	Lucas: 0​
Excitebiker: 2​	Lyn: 4​	Birdo: 0​
Blastoise: 1​	Baby Mario: 0​	Plusle / Minun: 2​

And with that, two of our three clones shall be Wolf and Blaziken! I didn't want the 3rd to be another Falcon clone, though, so our 3rd clone shall be...Roy!

Job #12: Submit a Blaziken moveset​

Doesn't have to be anything super fancy; just list Blaziken's takes on Captain Falcon's moveset and the differences. Here's my take:

• Neutral Special: Fire Punch
  • A clone of Falcon Punch that trades damage and knockback for an effect with the opponent's rear end on fire.
• Side Special: Reversal
  • A clone of Raptor Boost, but the damage increases when Blaziken is badly damaged.
• Up Special: Sky Uppercut
  • A clone of Falcon Dive that trades the grabbing for a multi-hit slash attack.
• Down Special: Blaze Kick
  • A clone of Falcon Kick that can spike opponents in the air.

Blaziken
Wolf
Roy

(I also have a decloned Ganondorf moveset that I really want to show as well. Also I thought a Rare character being added was mentioned? 27 fighters rather than 28 for a neat rectangle seems a bit weird to me, but I digress)

All I really mentioned was that I considered Rare characters, but decided against it due to Rare being fully owned by Microsoft by late 2002.

 

[Butters Stotch]

I’m not gonna submit my own take since the moveset fits so well IMO, especially with artwork of him doing the knee of justice.

 

[Perkilator]

Alright, I guess my moveset fits well enough. Let's move on to the more mundane jobs.

Job #13: Submit alternate costumes for the newcomers​

I'm gonna give retained fighters one to two more alts each, so that should gauge the idea of six alts per character.

 

[Butters Stotch]

Job 13:

As I imagine there'll be submissions for other characters' alts, I'll just do Wario and Wolf for now.
:

1. Default
2. Booster (red)
3. Mario Golf alt 1 (blue)
4. Mario Golf alt 3 (green)
5. Wario Land 3 (white)
6. Wario's Woods NES (purple)

:

1. Default
2. David V. Kimball mockup (beige)
3. Pigma (pink)
4. Leon (green)
5. Krystal (blue)
6. Fay (white)