Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Tree Gelbman]

I remember reading a theory here that Skull Kid is still an Assist Trophy, it's just that he summons the moon as his new ability.

If that assist trophy had Skull Kid present in it? It'd be named Skull Kid not Moon.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

On one condition. If Vergeben ends up being washed up and wrong...

All of you who've been:
1. Constantly rattling about Incineroar and Ken being locks and shutting down further speculation about other characters.
2. Telling people that they're "setting themselves up for disappointment" for not believing him.

Have to apologize to the skeptics who kept their minds open about his authenticity. Fair's fair.

Fine. we have a deal!

 

[PolarisJunkie]

Interesting POV.

I just feel it'd be kinda wonky for 5 stages to have no newcomer rep whatsoever. Incineroar may get an Alola stage, sure, but...that leaves 4. Even with the small potential of Ken with a stage? That leaves 3 very hidden areas.

Lots of explanations. We'll have to see.

Ken getting a stage would be weird since his SF2 stage is actually fairly boring with just a boat by a pier. It doesn't really match his personality at all IMO as the other characters' stages in that game, although his theme is pretty epic. I'd love another SF stage maybe riding the plane that happens in Arcade mode that goes to each stage? That way it fully incorporates all of those areas or at least most of that particular game.

 

[majora_787]

I'm already not about to live the life of "X character is going to be the next one shown". I'm DEFINITELY not going to live the life of boss vs character speculation. I feel like if they wanted a Zelda boss there are better things they COULD run with than Skull Kid, but I guess that's neither here nor there. I'm going to remain optimistic toward missing assist trophies.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Wouldn’t Majora’s Mask/Wrath/etc as a boss effectively deconfirm Skull Kid though? Since the most recognizable incarnation of SK is the one wearing the mask

Well, if it's an adventure mode between Melee and SSE, you could have Skull Kid go back and fight Majora after unlocking him, as it wouldn't affect the story.

A multi-phase fight with both Skull Kid and Majora's forms would make the most sense though, skull kid can still be a boss even if you didn't fight the kid himself in MM.

If they animate Skull Kid like they would a normal fighter, it'd be weird for him to just be a boss, and otherwise he's about the same size as Young Link. I'm not saying it can't be done, but we have no precedent for a small, annoying-to-hit boss.

I mean, at least he'd be better than just a trophy, but I'd rather he be possible for DLC :S

 

[Aurane]

Mimique is not a leaker. She's a really, really good guesser.

And that's good enough for this fanbase.

 

[Potato_]

I wonder if people believe if Skull Kid only became as popular or "expected" now because of the chairs or Loz.
so much i made a stupid poll for it

I think Skull Kid was always popular in that people liked him and would be fine with him in, but once the Loz leak made it look like he was "possible" people really started going all out on him.

Would you say that's a yes?

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I feel like a direct on next Wednesday would be incredible, but I'm not holding my breath.

Whoa whoa whoa

Did a direct get announced?

Where’s your source

 

[Captain Shwampy]

yea if isaac AND felix are in than it has to be marketing towards a new Golden Sun

 

[Will]

I think Skull Kid was always popular in that people liked him and would be fine with him in, but once the Loz leak made it look like he was "possible" people really started going all out on him.

Would you say that's a yes?

yeah that pretty much falls in line with that, yes.

yea if isaac AND felix are in than it has to be marketing towards a new Golden Sun

You hear that fellas?
We're getting a new Ice Climber!

 

[Soulsaint]

If there is minecraft stage, I wonder if ot functions in the same way as the Mariomaker stage. Also another thought I have was, what if stagebuilder comes back and the minecraft content is in the stagebuilder as assets.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

I wonder if people believe if Skull Kid only became as popular or "expected" now because of the chairs or Loz.
so much i made a stupid poll for it

Yeah pretty much, plus the assist missing, but before that hardly anyone talked about skull kid, he was never unpopular but he wasn't exactly popular either.

 

[praline]

Whoa whoa whoa

Did a direct get announced?

Where’s your source

did you actually read his post? lol

 

[Chrono.]

I'd love another SF stage maybe riding the plane that happens in Arcade mode that goes to each stage? That way it fully incorporates all of those areas or at least most of that particular game.

Not exactly what you're asking for, but SFV does have a stage where you fight on a plane lol.



It's a neat idea.

 

[SlickWylde]

Nahh, he's obviously just gonna be right in retrospect, and wasn't a real leaker all along.

Hate to sound rude or anything but I honestly know that's what the reactions will be like because some people just...refuse to believe leaking is possible, I guess.

Even if he gets one thing wrong, people will go "SEE, HE'S FAKE HE'S FAKE!!" lol. People don't seem to understand that a leaker isn't looking at the final game. I believe he has real info based on the stuff he's gotten correct so far, and the only way I'd believe he made it all up and got lucky is either if everything else he says is wrong, (and even then he's specifically stated he has people trying to give bad info) or if he came out and said "I was trolling."

On the other side though, some people will refuse to admit he was legit even if after release, everything he says is true.

 

[RandomAce]

again i must ask

has there EVER been an instance of two directs happening in the same month? i.e. regular and Smash, Smash and Mini, Regular and Mini? we could get a Mini soon if anything...idk

Short answer...

 

[Potato_]

I remember reading a theory here that Skull Kid is still an Assist Trophy, it's just that he summons the moon as his new ability.

This is because of that confetti that was seen during the Moon assist reveal right?

If so why have two assist trophies that do literally the exact same thing? Unless you believe the Moon AT IS the Skull Kid AT, and if so then why bother introducing it AS the Moon AT? No point in hiding Skull Kid if he's really a part of this AT. And with how Sakurai makes clear certain characters are deconfirmed, I think if Skull Kid was a part of this AT he'd show him very clearly so people don't get ideas.

 

[majora_787]

If I had to guesstimate a direct we won't be seeing one for like two more weeks. Then we MIGHT be able to expect a smash direct or something, potentially. But that's just going by the formula I use to frame my expectations.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Whoa whoa whoa

Did a direct get announced?

Where’s your source

My source is vergeben's mother who apparently has tea parties with vaanrose's mother and they talk trash about mother****ing leaker's mother and her failures as a mother.

It's a big ole affair.

No, not really. It's earlier in the thread. Some potentially and most likely fake leak listed next Wednesday as a Smash Direct.

 

[lightdrago]

If that assist trophy had Skull Kid present in it? It'd be named Skull Kid not Moon.

It's possible that it was named Moon instead as it is the main focus of the attack. It is doing most of the work after all.

 

[PolarisJunkie]

Not exactly what you're asking for, but SFV does have a stage where you fight on a plane lol.

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I actually quite like that stage! Although I believe its banned in SFV tourney play since it gives people motion sickness believe it or not. Hopefully if they did incorporate the SF2 Arcade plane it would not do that...

 

[MainJPW]

Mimique is not a leaker. She's a really, really good guesser.

She has a psychic connection with members of the Dev team. Sometimes there’s some interference, however.

 

[PeridotGX]

I wonder if people believe if Skull Kid only became as popular or "expected" now because of the chairs or Loz.
so much i made a stupid poll for it

I think it's a Chorus Kids effect. Non-Talked About until a credible leaker mentions him, and people quickly realize he'd be neat. Even if he doesn't make it in this time, I expect the fanbase to stay.

 

[Will]

If so why have two assist trophies that do literally the exact same thing?

There's no way they could make two assists do the same thing! It's impossibl-

well **** my life and call me loz18

 

[Tree Gelbman]

It's possible that it was named Moon instead as it is the main focus of the attack. It is doing most of the work after all.

The moon isn't a character. And Skull Kid is. It'd legit make no sense to have a character present in an assist trophy and not give them some credit for their appearance.

If this was the case? A more apt title for that assist would be ''Skull Kid & Moon."

 

[drag0nscythe]

If I had to guesstimate a direct we won't be seeing one for like two more weeks. Then we MIGHT be able to expect a smash direct or something, potentially. But that's just going by the formula I use to frame my expectations.

My guess. No smash direct till last week of October/First week of November.
Until then, more hosting of the game, new articles and maybe a mini announcement.

 

[Aurane]

According to my calculations and mathematics, the next direct that involves Smash Bros. Ultimate will happen...

Spoiler

when it happens.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

He's too purple to be a newcomer. That's the real reason why Waluigi isn't playable. I mean even Ridley is less purple than usual.

Yes, Blaze is lightly-purple enough to possibly be included in the future. Plus she has Nintendo credentials since Sonic Rush.

Besides, Isabelle does use a fishing pole, so that kind of compensates.

 

[Galaxyman]

yeah i don't think a direct is coming out any time soon.

 

[Pyra]

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From Mimique. I mean, these are the characters we talked about constantly pre-box theory bull****, but tbh I'm still on that boat, especially if CoroCoro is right.

Skull Kid, Geno, AND Banjo?
Sign me up

 

[Misery Brick]

If they animate Skull Kid like they would a normal fighter, it'd be weird, and otherwise he's about the same size as Young Link. I'm not saying it can't be done, but we have no precedent for a small, annoying-to-hit boss.

I mean, at least he'd be better than just a trophy, but I'd rather he be possible for DLC :S

Well, we had small bosses in the past, so I don't think it's totally out of the question.
Such as Metal Mario and some of the "shadow" (or whatever they're called) incarnations of characters in SSE.
While outside of the former, they weren't specifically designed bosses, but they still count.
So I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility if he just ends up as a stage boss, especially if he gets thrown off the mask eventually and you fight Majora's Wrath.

With that said though, I would love to see him as a character for the base roster or DLC.
I just personally wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be an actual boss.

 

[Deleted member]

You have to be intimate with Aurane if you want Bara Cat in Smash.

Sakurai told me himself.

.....

Alright Aurane
...bend over.


EDIT:
Welp, I just got a full blown infraction for this gag.
So yeah, a big middle finger to those involved here, including the admin that infracted me (you know who you are).

 

[Jedisupersonic]

yeah that pretty much falls in line with that, yes.


You hear that fellas?
We're getting a new Ice Climber!

Ike Climbers first.

 

[AreJay25]

I actually quite like that stage! Although I believe its banned in SFV tourney play since it gives people motion sickness believe it or not. Hopefully if they did incorporate the SF2 Arcade plane it would not do that...

I mean, they already have a foundation with Pilotwings.

 

[Will]

.....

Alright Aurane
...bend over.

Why would you post this?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I wouldn’t call Mimique a leaker personally, I think they’re just making educated guesses, and some may turn out to be wrong. Also, it seems English isn’t their first language, which makes me further doubt they have actual insider info

 

[Potato_]

Mimique is not a leaker. She's a really, really good guesser.

Didn't know Mimique was a girl, whoops.

She might not be a leaker, but some of these guesses have no basis at all other than she believes them. Rathalos AT of all things?

Her reasoning for everyone is here was logical though, I'll give you that. As was the Dracula's Castle stage, that easily follows from believing Simon was legit.

You're in her discord right? I'd appreciate if you let me know of any other predictions she makes, I like to keep tabs on that stuff.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

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From Mimique. I mean, these are the characters we talked about constantly pre-box theory bull****, but tbh I'm still on that boat, especially if CoroCoro is right.

Everyone but the person in the bottom left corner and almost Inceneroar I know and can accept in Smash

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Why would you post this?

To disappoint someone’s wholesomeness

 

[Paperchampion23]

She has a psychic connection with members of the Dev team. Sometimes there’s some interference, however.

Haha she does. Most of over in her discord have a different philosophy about characters though. We think the final direct will be as shocking as the last 2.

In that not only Sakurai will reveal everything, but 6-8 characters (the like ones Mimique posted) will all be shown at one time for the sake of calling the game "Ultimate" and shocking people for a 3rd time.

That's just our take on it, we could all be sorely wrong, but I'm sure everyone would want that to be right.

 

[Pyra]

No, not really. It's earlier in the thread. Some potentially and most likely fake leak listed next Wednesday as a Smash Direct.

Likely fake? Yes

Incredibly hype-worthy? Absolutely. We'll be able to crown a winner by the next Smash direct, and if it's sooner rather than later, I am down

But likely fake anyway unfortunately