Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Shroob]

SE bette get their ***** in gear and gwt DQ11 on witch soon

Which witch?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Which witch?

The Switch Witch

 

[praline]

Honestly Psaro would be a hype addition to Smash. Especially if Dragon Quest was in the base game having him as a boss character.

 

[Pyra]

The Switch Witch

Bayonetta?

 

[TheYungLink]

Glad to see all the DQ 11 love, since I'm a Dragon Quest fan.

The Switch port can't come soon enough, it was literally one of the first games announced for it and it's the version I'm waiting for.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

Honestly Psaro would be a hype addition to Smash. Especially if Dragon Quest was in the base game having him as a boss character.

if we ever got a dq boss it would probably be dragonlord first b4 anyone else

 

[praline]

if we ever got a dq boss it would probably be dragonlord first b4 anyone else

I know but Psaro is the coolest villain in any DQ(yes I know he’s also playable in the same game)

 

[ZephyrZ]

Anyone else struggling with spacing in this game? I used to be able to land Marth's and Charizard's tippers fairly consistently in 4 but seem to be struggling in this one.

My guess is that that the hitboxes were slightly tweaked, or that the increase in game speed just makes prescision more difficult in general. Or maybe both.

 

[Captain Fun]

i could get pretty much the strongest burst out of erik though
divide is broken

Yeah, Erik + Divide + Wild Side pep power carried me through some of the Hard Mode bosses. Jade is much more consistent though.

 

[Bionichute]

I know but Psaro is the coolest villain in any DQ(yes I know he’s also playable in the same game)

orgodemir? murdaw?? rhapthorne??? estark????

 

[praline]

orgodemir? murdaw?? rhapthorne??? estark????

I never said he was the only cool villain. I love alll those guys,

 

[Bionichute]

I never said he was the only cool villain. I love alll those guys,

yeah you did, you actually straight up said he was "the coolest villain in any dq"

 

[Will]

But if we had to drop one of the three you know it has to be him.

I'd rather drop Toon Link.

 

[Idon]

Anyone else struggling with spacing in this game? I used to be able to land Marth's and Charizard's tippers fairly consistently in 4 but seem to be struggling in this one.

My guess is that that the hitboxes were slightly tweaked, or that the increase in game speed just makes prescision more difficult in general. Or maybe both.

Yeah, everyone moves faster. hits faster in the air, stops on a dime, and dodges through your attacks like it's mid-air Dark Souls now.

So screw it, I'm dropping Marth and going hard Ike/Wolf.

Going full team mercenaries.

 

[praline]

yeah you did, you actually straight up said he was "the coolest villain in any dq"

What? Coolest means I like him more... it doesn’t mean I only like him.

 

[Opossum]

Lucina and Chrom should have both just been alt costumes like Alph.

Heeeeeeell no. Especially considering Chrom has notable differences from Roy gameplay and model-wise, this wouldn't even make sense.

 

[praline]

Hector should have been added as an Ike echo too. Also..l the more people complain about Fire Emblem in Smash the more I want more characters from it.

 

[LetterO]

Lucina and Chrom should have both just been alt costumes like Alph.

The reverse would be better. Alph should have been an echo fighter.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

The reverse would be better. Alph should have been an echo fighter.

This man has taste.

 

[ZaneHitsurugi]

The reverse would be better. Alph should have been an echo fighter.

yikes

Heeeeeeell no. Especially considering Chrom has notable differences from Roy gameplay and model-wise, this wouldn't even make sense.

The differences don't warrant being another character. Echos are purely a way to inflate the roster count.

 

[Double K]

Ex-****ing-cuse me? DQ8 though.

And DQ8 is...?

Only relevant in the West and for new people to the franchise. Hand of the Heavenly Bride is generally viewed by a lot of the fans as one of the best games and Cursed King is kind of in an awkward spot where its core fanbase is nostalgia junkies.

EDIT: I'm not saying this as a knock to DQ8 but its big contributions to the franchise are skill points and fully 3D world.

DQ5 is the FE4 of the franchise, so to speak

 

[LetterO]

yikes

but Alph would be cool. He could literally just be Olimar but with Rock Pikmin and slight stat changes. He just needs 4 more alt. colors.

The differences don't warrant being another character. Echos are purely a way to inflate the roster count.

Not really. It's so we can get wanted and cool characters with less effort being put in. If it weren't for echos, we wouldn't have gotten popular picks like Dark Samus, Daisy, and Chrom, and we wouldn't have gotten cool characters like Richter.

 

[Will]

The differences don't warrant being another character. Echos are purely a way to inflate the roster count.

They're inflations that are represented by characters a sizeable audience wants.
Your point?

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

Yeah, everyone moves faster. hits faster in the air, stops on a dime, and dodges through your attacks like it's mid-air Dark Souls now.

Seriously, even Ganondorf seems kind of viable now (still have his crappy recovery tho). Vermanubis, a Dorf main even placed 9th at 'Don't park on the grass', the 1st Ultimate major a few days ago.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

yikes

The differences don't warrant being another character. Echos are purely a way to inflate the roster count.

Except... them being echoes are exactly the point of them not inflating the roster count. Because, you know. They can be merged with their base characters? Because you know. The Echos took like no development time?

There's really no reason to complain about Echoes. At all. If you dont want then making your roster huge, merge em. If you don't ever want to use them, don't. They're there to make Chrom, Daisy, Ken, etc. fans happy. What's not to like?

 

[Schnee117]

yikes

The differences don't warrant being another character. Echos are purely a way to inflate the roster count.

Good thing they provided the echo stack option for people like you

 

[Shroob]

**** all y'all. I love echoes and am heartbroken, HEARTBROKEN, that we're not getting any as DLC.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

**** all y'all. I love echoes and am heartbroken, HEARTBROKEN, that we're not getting any as DLC.

**** boi, I was pulling for a Big Boss echo. You ain't the only one HEARTBROKEN.

 

[Bionichute]

im really excited for the part in joker's classic mode where you get to beat robin to death with a crowbar

 

[Will]

**** boi, I was pulling for a Big Boss echo. You ain't the only one HEARTBROKEN.

at least i have a black shadow legendary spirit to cope with the pain

 

[Wademan94]

So while on the topic of echo fighters, this came to mind while I was at work:

Spoiler: Has anyone thought of this echo idea before?

Echo for :

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Imagine believing Ultimate's roster is too bloated with echoes
This post was made by the Melee gang

 

[Bionichute]

the most exciting thing for me if erdrick is revealed is going to be the reactions of people mostly going "who is that"

 

[Shroob]

the most exciting thing for me if erdrick is revealed is going to be the reactions of people mostly going "who is that"

Shame Etika ran off. He'd be losing his **** thinking it was Goku.

 

[GoeGoe]

I'm Noipoi!

Just a silly guy here for a laugh and a doodle or two.
But since you never got one, I guess it's time for a Noipoi special!
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Hello. Nice to meet ya.. should I test how nice you are XD.. just kidding.
Excuse me, it took me a while to reply. Soo do you mind a pointer?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

here is a fun game, how would each character in smash react to getting the bad flavors of beanboozled

 

[Bionichute]

Shame Etika ran off. He'd be losing his **** thinking it was Goku.

as much as people don't really like the idea of slime, putting slime in instead of erdrick would honestly be a smarter move since, even in the west, everyone knows what the dragon quest slime is

erdrick's just like, a guy

 

[Noipoi]

Hello. Nice to meet ya.. should I test how nice you are XD.. just kidding.
Excuse me, it took me a while to reply. Soo do you mind a pointer?

Here you go.

Be kind to him, he's a good boy.

 

[Bionichute]

im sure by the time erdrick is revealed people will know who he is, but only because people are talking about erdrick in smash

 

[Double K]

as much as people don't really like the idea of slime, putting slime in instead of erdrick would honestly be a smarter move since, even in the west, everyone knows what the dragon quest slime is

erdrick's just like, a guy

As much as I like Slime, Erdrick's iconography and DQ3 is referenced in virtually every JRPG-- even Nier Automata references him specifically with the Cypress Stick