Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

if a 30 hour story mode is only fun for like an hour or 2 at a time then it's repetitive and monotonous. It's poor design.

Yeah, Its pretty understandble that you feel that way

 

[Curious Villager]

Smashboards ate my post, not gonna type that all over again, please ignore this post.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Yay I beat WoL 100% today. Only need to get all the skills to finish its challenge board

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

Given that Team Ninja is making yet another game for Nintendo, I'd be shocked if Ryu Hayabusa doesn't make it in as playable.

Don't anticipate him too much or he won't get in!

Remember what Reggie San said about DLC picks: ''[...] characters that you would not anticipate to be in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.''

Spoiler

I just got home and man y'all got Joker can you just leave Geno alone I'm so tired of hearing some stuff about HE'S S O M I N O R every day about my son
Like
I get it dude
I get it

Just equip Sassy Geno as your primary spirit and you'll sail through this just fine

 

[Deleted member]

if a 30 hour story mode is only fun for like an hour or 2 at a time then it's repetitive and monotonous. It's poor design.

It's not a story mode, though.

 

[Iridium]

Uh, so Hanenbow's completely green color background (green screen) somehow makes it easy to do things like this.

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Okay...

 

[Noipoi]

It's not a story mode, though.

It is if you're like me and envision the characters' reactions as you go along.

 

[lightdrago]

It is if you're like me and envision the characters' reactions as you go along.

I miss SSE cutscenes...

 

[Luigifan18]

Uh, so Hanenbow's completely green color background somehow makes it easy to do things like this.

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Okay...

I know green screens are a thing in movie-making to facilitate CGI and other post-production edits, but is there just something about green backgrounds that makes them easier to overwrite? I'm really not sure how the "green screen" principle applies when nobody's physically filming anything and the backgrounds are files in a program rather than part of a recording studio...

 

[DraginHikari]

I know green screens are a thing in movie-making to facilitate CGI and other post-production edits, but is there just something about green backgrounds that makes them easier to overwrite? I'm really not sure how the "green screen" principle applies when nobody's physically filming anything and the backgrounds are files in a program rather than part of a recroding studio...

It's primarily because green is not a natural skin color or hair color for humans. Blue Screen can often be used for this reason as well when green needs to be visible.

 

[Pyra]

I know green screens are a thing in movie-making to facilitate CGI and other post-production edits, but is there just something about green backgrounds that makes them easier to overwrite? I'm really not sure how the "green screen" principle applies when nobody's physically filming anything and the backgrounds are files in a program rather than part of a recroding studio...

You can chroma key any old color as far as I'm aware. Green is just easier in studios and stuff because it's hard to come by someone wearing/being something that particular tint of green

Blue screens and backdrops are also used a lot.

Any solid color, really. But those two are the best.

EDIT: Greninja'd

 

[DraginHikari]

You can chroma key any old color as far as I'm aware. Green is just easier in studios and stuff because it's hard to come by someone wearing/being something that particular tint of green

Blue screens and backdrops are also used a lot.

Any solid color, really. But those two are the best.

EDIT: Greninja'd

^

Basically when editing it easier to extract a singlar color background from a image to create the transparency effect needed to display other objects behind the original objects without weird distortion effects of blending two video sources together.

 

[Deleted member]

It is if you're like me and envision the characters' reactions as you go along.

Ha ha, true, very true. I like to immerse myself in it as well. If the game tells me that Wario is supposed to be Weezing, then that's what I'm gonna see him as. They did a wonderful job creating matches that reference the Spirit's original game perfectly. They're also the very definition of fan service, as some of the battles and references are incredibly obscure.

Spoiler: My favorite one so far is...

...The Kyle Hyde battle. Hotel Dusk is the mother of all underrated games, and to see it acknowledged like this in a game as big as Smash just really got to me.

Thank you for this wonderful game, Mr. Sakurai. You really have created the Ultimate Smash Bros. At least, in my eyes he has.

 

[PlugMeister]

That moment when the freezeframe on the last hit of a match is your character getting beaned by Peach/Daisy's side-B...

 

[ClaTheBae]

why is timed mode still in the game

why does nintendo think people still play timed mode

most importantly, why is it the default option

 

[Wyoming]

why is timed mode still in the game

why does nintendo think people still play timed mode

most importantly, why is it the default option

Not really a problem anymore with saved rulesets, no?

 

[Noipoi]

Suicune. Entei and Rakou's Spirit Battle takes place on Suzaku Castle with lava floors. This is a direct reference to the Johto region's burned tower, where the legendary beasts were resurrected by Ho-oh.

I appreciate this game.

 

[Doodleman999]

why is timed mode still in the game

why does nintendo think people still play timed mode

most importantly, why is it the default option

Timed mode is good when you're playing with people who are new to the game, since they can keep playing the whole time and don't lose all their stocks by sd'ing at the beginning then have to sit out the rest of the match

 

[Zinith]

I've not touched Spirit Battles

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Smashboards ate my post, not gonna type that all over again, please ignore this post.

Punch it in the stomach until id gives it back

 

[DraginHikari]

Timed mode is good when you're playing with people who are new to the game, since they can keep playing the whole time and don't lose all their stocks by sd'ing at the beginning then have to sit out the rest of the match

I would say this is most likely the case, we have to remember that the community for Smash is very broad and starting with the most simple version of the game via time makes sense as a default for a general audience that may not mess with the specific rule sets.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Thinking about transitioning to 4chan since you guys don't call me gay slurs enough

 

[R O F L]

why is timed mode still in the game

why does nintendo think people still play timed mode

most importantly, why is it the default option

I have no idea why it's default, but I do timed, 4-player FFAs with my friends all the time.

 

[Noipoi]

I've not touched Spirit Battles

Why not? It's radical.

The Spirit who loves Surprises even shows up.

 

[Zinith]

Smashboards ate my post, not gonna type that all over again, please ignore this post.

Smashboards must be a relative of my boi's

 

[Noipoi]

Thinking about transitioning to 4chan since you guys don't call me gay slurs enough

On it.

You're such a not-straight. I bet you don't even like to touch women's bellybuttons, ya froot loop.

 

[R O F L]

I've not touched Spirit Battles

Well, that's something that needs to be changed...

 

[Zinith]

Why not? It's radical.

The Spirit who loves Surprises even shows up.

Well, that's something that needs to be changed...

Oh, I'll get to it. But I take my time with games like this much like a certain game franchise...

 

[Deleted member]

Bit of a hot take: World of Light is the perfect balance between an Adventure and Story Mode, and really the only thing that they need is just more cutscenes and that's it. They've already written the story loosely, but there's still a story nonetheless.

Here's the problem. Unless if you're Mortal Kombat 9, fighting games never really had a good story mode. It seems that usually Japanese developers can't seem to get the "Story Mode in Fighting Games" aspect right. And while Subspace Emissary was definitely great, it was really only great because of the cutscenes. The platforming and side-scrolling are pretty unfortunate and doesn't really make it a "Smash-feeling" mode. The Great Maze already makes that case for itself.

World of Light's gameplay is what Subspace Emissary's gameplay should've been. They reference a lot of Nintendo/3rd party material and make creative uses out of their IPs and the main core gameplay. Like for example,

Spoiler: WOL MAP SPOILER

there's an entire HD recreation of the DK Island first maps from Donkey Kong Country. THAT was a HUGE shock to me and something that made me go "**** yes, Nintendo. That's that good ****".

I think if there was just a few more cutscenes or so, it'd achieve god-like status. Who knows, but that's generally how I feel about World of Light, pretty apathetic after past fighting game experiences, but overall enjoying the mode.

 

[ClaTheBae]

You're such a not-straight. I bet you don't even like to touch women's bellybuttons, ya froot loop.

Thanks man really needed that.


Although for reference, I'm down to touch any gender's bullybutton just in case anyone was hoping to inquire about that

 

[DevaAshera]

The problem is that you get the ad costumes regardless if you didn't pick it, which is why people are upset

I know, it's how DLC Notifications work for some games.
I still sometimes get the DLC Shop notification sometimes when I start up Smash 3DS or Wii U.
Minor annoyance at best, but not something I'd get upset over.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Lol imagine the confetti was replaced with blood. Oh man Smash would be so much more epic

 

[Idon]

God, World of Light sucks. It's awful even relative to other fighting game stories. At least they have the courtesy to suck for a short amount of time.

And by GOD, whose idea was it to lock the MENU MUSIC behind this?

 

[Noipoi]

Lol imagine the confestti was replaced with bloof. Oh man Smash would be so much more epic

Man, I hate it when someone replaces all my confestti with bloof.

It's even worse when I run out of skorples so I have to use bipplesnaps instead.

 

[GhostYB]

Lol imagine the confestti was replaced with blood. Oh man Smash would be so much more epic

This is definitely it gamers rise up and make this happen

 

[DevaAshera]

Bit of a hot take: World of Light is the perfect balance between an Adventure and Story Mode, and really the only thing that they need is just more cutscenes and that's it. They've already written the story loosely, but there's still a story nonetheless.

Here's the problem. Unless if you're Mortal Kombat 9, fighting games never really had a good story mode. It seems that usually Japanese developers can't seem to get the "Story Mode in Fighting Games" aspect right. And while Subspace Emissary was definitely great, it was really only great because of the cutscenes. The platforming and side-scrolling are pretty unfortunate and doesn't really make it a "Smash-feeling" mode. The Great Maze already makes that case for itself.

World of Light's gameplay is what Subspace Emissary's gameplay should've been. They reference a lot of Nintendo/3rd party material and make creative uses out of their IPs and the main core gameplay. Like for example,

Spoiler: WOL MAP SPOILER

there's an entire HD recreation of the DK Island first maps from Donkey Kong Country. THAT was a HUGE shock to me and something that made me go "**** yes, Nintendo. That's that good ****".

I think if there was just a few more cutscenes or so, it'd achieve god-like status. Who knows, but that's generally how I feel about World of Light, pretty apathetic after past fighting game experiences, but overall enjoying the mode.

I'd say the first few BlazBlue titles did it well too.

Spoiler

Oh I know, that was AMAZING! So was the Street Fighter II map.

 

[ClaTheBae]

God, World of Light sucks. It's awful even relative to other fighting game stories. At least they have the courtesy to suck for a short amount of time.

And by GOD, whose idea was it to lock the MENU MUSIC behind this?

It has so many cool fights too. But the abundance of them and the frustrating ones don't really make up for it

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Man, I hate it when someone replaces all my confestti with bloof.

It's even worse when I run out of skorples so I have to use bipplesnaps instead.

Im laughing too hard right now at what just happend

 

[Zinith]

Lol imagine the confestti was replaced with blood. Oh man Smash would be so much more epic

Man I wish my boi still had the confetti thing with his shield, then it would be a bloodbath...

 

[Potato_]

Bit of a hot take: World of Light is the perfect balance between an Adventure and Story Mode, and really the only thing that they need is just more cutscenes and that's it. They've already written the story loosely, but there's still a story nonetheless.

Here's the problem. Unless if you're Mortal Kombat 9, fighting games never really had a good story mode. It seems that usually Japanese developers can't seem to get the "Story Mode in Fighting Games" aspect right. And while Subspace Emissary was definitely great, it was really only great because of the cutscenes. The platforming and side-scrolling are pretty unfortunate and doesn't really make it a "Smash-feeling" mode. The Great Maze already makes that case for itself.

World of Light's gameplay is what Subspace Emissary's gameplay should've been. They reference a lot of Nintendo/3rd party material and make creative uses out of their IPs and the main core gameplay. Like for example,

Spoiler: WOL MAP SPOILER

there's an entire HD recreation of the DK Island first maps from Donkey Kong Country. THAT was a HUGE shock to me and something that made me go "**** yes, Nintendo. That's that good ****".

I think if there was just a few more cutscenes or so, it'd achieve god-like status. Who knows, but that's generally how I feel about World of Light, pretty apathetic after past fighting game experiences, but overall enjoying the mode.

Or Injustice, but that's also Netherrealm so yeah.

Yeah the gameplay is pretty much the best you can do to make it more varied. What would benefit it is fitting even more of those areas that reference certain series, and obviously cutscenes. If they ever do something like this again they could add some more modifiers and I would be more than content. Also they should probably make it shorter, and add a bit more characters closer to the beginning instead of all the way in the end. The latter half of the game is just stacked with characters, they probably could have spread them out a bit more.

Personal highlight though were the bosses, particularly in the later half of WoL. They had a good amount of moves so it felt almost as if I was fighting them in their home games.