Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[CaptainCC]

Yo, I prefer Tails over Shadow too. But this is a bad take.

And for the record, Tails can still get in (Probably DLC, but still). He wouldn't have been an echo if he got in. Shadow could be an echo, so it just fit. It's that simple. Tails is a prime candidate should a 3rd party franchise manage to get a non-echo newcomer.

I'm probably not as opposed to Shadow as I sound, esp if he got fleshed out and wasn't a clone that uses purple energy auras or some sh around the same moves to make him "dark."

Definitely hoping for Tails though.

 

[Ring-a-Sheep]

Sure.

No, i dont work for Nintendo or Sora ltd.

This leaks literally go against everything that has been said even by sakurai himself, we´ve never had 7 characters in a single trailer, 5 newcomers and 2 echoes. All of these are fanfavorite / predictable picks.

Theres that 300 IQ, im sorry but mach rider hasn't been a "predictable" or "obvious" pick for years now, whatever talk of MR during smash 4 days were small enough to go unnoticed and i can't even tell you if there was talk of MR before this leak happened. For your other point, geeeeeeeeeeeeee sakurai sure has never gone back on his word or said something that can be interpreted in different ways. Sorry but your personal belief that 7 characters is impossible plus "BUT SAKURAI SAID"
isn't enough for something to actually be impossible.

Also this argument is finished.

 

[FantasticMr.StarPit]

I feel bad for Sakurai... If the leak is real...that spoiled the majority of what was left. Even if the leak is fake, he has to show us how much LESS than this leak we are getting..... This will be a lose lose for him...me thinks..

At least someone didn't leak that Spirits mode and what its going to look like; or however content that's left.

Would be a huge blowing kill for Sakurai.

A good reason why he's never asking anyone for anything ever again.

 

[Pyra]

I think it's kind of convenient it's the characters that are common guess AT THIS POINT in smash speculation

If it was some months ago the common guesses would be skull kid, bandana dee, and decidueye or something.

Probably. Which is why it's a good thing that's not the case for me ;
Skull Kid and Geno were always in my guesses from the start, and so was Incineroar not showing up. Not that there's not a chance left but I mean
Totally missed the mark on Skull Kid hahahaha and that's fine


Banjo I never really imagined getting in but he was on my wishlist.

I used to want decidueye but my Gen 7 wish went to the Masked Royal. But that wasn't my guess, and I specifically worded my guess in my signature the way I did because I doubted one appearing at all.

*shrug*

Look to the right of Mach Rider, its Agumon. Look to the left of Pikachu and its.... Arthur?

is that weird? they were obvious choices

 

[Deleted member]

Is it also easy to move around an ABUNDANCE of characters and seamlessly integrate new ones?

I'm just sayin' Luigi, don't underestimate what fanworks can produce, or the lengths people will go to for E-fame.

Not saying that's what's happening here, but hey, it's a possibility.

For the love of all that is good, please let me be wrong like I always am and let this masterpiece of a roster be real.

 

[Z25]

How many times do we have to tell people it's a ****ing Xenoblade reference?

Me everytime this is bought up:

 

[Luigi The President]

I'm just sayin' Luigi, don't underestimate what fanworks can produce, or the lengths people will go to for E-fame.

Not saying that's what's happening here, but hey, it's a possibility.

For the love of all that is good, please let me be wrong like I always am and let this masterpiece of a roster be real.

Not my point.

I'm saying it isn't easy.

 

[Dcas]

I didn't make the picture, a friend of mine did on Discord to prove that very exact fact.

Is it also easy to move around an ABUNDANCE of characters and seamlessly integrate new ones?

Well ofc is more complex and time consuming but it could be done because of the low res of the image, if it was clearer and higher res then i would be team real but otherwise nope.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

I'm in contact with the french guy and he said that wasn't the final roster. This is the full picture. Im still trying to figure out whos there myself.

Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[google chrom]

Look to the right of Mach Rider, its Agumon. Look to the left of Pikachu and its.... Arthur?

EDIT: Shrek is above Dedede.

EDIT 2: this leak is utter **** now, guys.

that was a joke post dude

 

[CosmicQuark]

and Agumon?

I spotted Arthur. Combing through to see if I find someone else. If I spend hours looking and don't find Waldo imma be furious.

 

[Fenriraga]

It's both. That line has no real context in the trailer and may be a jab at the leak. In the movies section in the UK version of Smash 4, the trailer is renamed to "Now It's Shulk Time." Make of that what you will.

It has plenty of context in the trailer. Shulk ONLY says it when targeting powerful foes. Smash's roster is about as "powerful foe" as you can get. Hell, his trailer even starts with him sneaking up on Bowser. Shulk and the party typically say those lines before actually engaging the enemies.

And trailer names are meant to be subtle and not give out the obvious answer to who the trailer is about. "Vampire Killer, The Rivals, Champion of the Ring, Challenger from the Shadows, Book, Blade and Crest of Flame, Etc). NoE probably just didn't get the memo.

 

[Deleted member]

So would a Direct announcement like 2 or 3 days after this leak confirm it as real? I'm just asking.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Look to the right of Mach Rider, its Agumon. Look to the left of Pikachu and its.... Arthur?

EDIT: Shrek is above Dedede.

EDIT 2: this leak is utter **** now, guys.

EDIT 3: forget what I said. I was looking at the wrong pic.

Oh my god.

Oh my ****ing god.

You literally used a joke post to call it fake.

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

Well ofc is more complex and time consuming but it could be done because of the low res of the image, if it was clearer and higher res then i would be team real but otherwise nope.

I mean you do realize there's more to this than just an edited panorama, right? There's also the empty panorama, the promotional items, and the weird Grinch stuff? The panorama on its own is nowhere near enough to garner believability, but take it in all at once my man.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

So would a Direct announcement like 2 or 3 days after this leak confirm it as real? I'm just asking.

Well, you could say that that's the hope.

 

[Deleted member]

Not my point.

I'm saying it isn't easy.

I wasn't saying it was easy, I was just saying that's never stopped people before.

I've seen too many good pieces of fan art and fan projects in general to completely believe stuff like this can't be faked. Again, not saying it is, but it certainly seems like a possibility.

 

[Untouch]

So would a Direct announcement like 2 or 3 days after this leak confirm it as real? I'm just asking.

No, there's a good chance the direct is early November.
The Shulk thing is a coincidence.

 

[doomedtacox]

I'm just sayin' Luigi, don't underestimate what fanworks can produce, or the lengths people will go to for E-fame.

Not saying that's what's happening here, but hey, it's a possibility.

For the love of all that is good, please let me be wrong like I always am and let this masterpiece of a roster be real.

True except this fame is way more harmful than helpful, like this could ruin his current or future jobs.

 

[TheCJBrine]

It may be easy to modify, but

That Shrek is from existing material, maybe the other extra characters as well; this guy had to make his own paintings that fit the mural, and spend his time printing it on an armband, and getting it ready with the plastic, slit, glue and all.

 

[Pazzo.]

So this is kind of a strech: Dr Mario and Mr Game and watch move ever so slightly over the white brick with every character added (also the others but this is my point of reference) but in the Grinch it looks like they are still in the same spot as the Isabelle banner even tho 7 new characters seem to be added, granted it's hard to tell due to the poor quality but it kinda looks like it does.

So minor, but in the leaked image Chrom's Falchion is bent.

 

[YourMostWantedWon'tBeIn]

If this leak turns out to be true, then it's GG for this guys

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

that was a joke post dude

I just noticed. I made a major derp there.
Off Topic but your username is perfection.

Gosh I feel like a dumb*** for believing that.

 

[lightdrago]

Guys, who's that person on that mural leak next to Dr Mario and Corrin? She seems to be right in front of Wii Fit Trainer.

EDIT: Disregard this. I was looking at the wrong one.

 

[larlargaming]

So would a Direct announcement like 2 or 3 days after this leak confirm it as real? I'm just asking.

i had this mind actually, lets say the rumored direct date was true, would they move the date up ?

 

[KMDP]

I do want to say one thing, what the hell is Isaac stepping on in the leak pic and where is Luigi in that pic?

Luigi's way up in the top, near Ken (he's actually on some kind of seam, making him hard to see).

And Isaac is down on one knee (sort of like a kneeling Captain Morgan pose), kneeling on a patch of grass presumably of his own creation.

 

[Deleted member]

No, there's a good chance the direct is early November.
The Shulk thing is a coincidence.

So what offical action could confirm that this leak has a chance of being real?

 

[BlondeLombax]

I've made a horrible mistake. Let's shift back to getting excited over an ambiguous leak before we wind up like the Hewdraw.

 

[kylexv]

I've been seeing a lot of facts being thrown around that are clearly wrong about the ESRB leak:

• The ESRB leak was leaked on August 19th, 2014: 25 days before the launch of Smash 3DS in Japan, not 45 days before like I've heard some saying.
• Shulk was revealed 10 days after the leak, not 2 or 3. Shulk was revealed on August 29th.

 

[amazonevan19]

Like I said before, this dude clearly did not mean to do this for internet fame or attention or anything.

If anything, if he's the same dude that angrily leaked the roster before, he's doing this because he has a major ax to grind with his company, Bandai Namco, and Nintendo. Never underestimate the actions people like him will take.

He obviously wouldn't care about his reputation or career anymore because something's gone wrong between him and his employer.

He shared this with a friend of his on ****ing snapchat, it wasn't intended to be widely seen.

To believe this is fake, you have to believe he's willing to say "au revoir" to his career over absolutely nothing.

No, he's pissed at his employer and Nintendo, and he's making them pay for whatever happened (or whatever he perceives is an injustice to him).

Sucks for Sakurai, Incineroar fans, and the Smash team, but Nintendo should have known this would have happened given their foot dragging.

 

[CannonStreak]

So, just wondering, what does Vergeben himself think of this leak? Any word from him?

 

[google chrom]

I just noticed. I made a major derp there.
Off Topic but your username is perfection.

thanks i appreciate you brother

 

[Untouch]

So what offical action could confirm that this leak has a chance of being real?

Nothing until either a full render is posted (very unlikely) or it is actually shown in a direct.

 

[Paperchampion23]

that was a joke post dude

You know whats annoying though? Even though its a joke, people are taking it that you can just insert anything and make it look convincing here. But thats not the case with what we got. Characters weren't just inserted, they were shifted to make room, revealed new art on characters bodies that were blocked, and even switched entirely to new locations.

People don't even realize that the actual leak we got is on another caliber. Its not simply just inserting things, its changing EVERYTHING about the banner.

 

[Wiziliz]

How long does everyone think it will take before someone debunks it? I'm thinking, if it's fake, it won't be debunked until the next Direct.
I am on Team Hope though, I'd love for this roster to be real.

 

[Deleted member]

It has plenty of context in the trailer. Shulk ONLY says it when targeting powerful foes. Smash's roster is about as "powerful foe" as you can get. Hell, his trailer even starts with him sneaking up on Bowser. Shulk and the party typically say those lines before actually engaging the enemies.

And trailer names are meant to be subtle and not give out the obvious answer to who the trailer is about. "Vampire Killer, The Rivals, Champion of the Ring, Challenger from the Shadows, Book, Blade and Crest of Flame, Etc). NoE probably just didn't get the memo.

Robin: "Smash has many powerful foes, Lucina[...]"
Just to hammer how they treated their little Smash canon consistently.

 

[Heracr055]

I personally have never played a BK game, SMRPG, Golden Sun, or Mach Rider. I also have limited exposure to Street Fighter and Rhythm Heaven. My only game with Shadow was Sonic Heroes and my only game with Banjo is Diddy Kong Racing. So I don't personally resonate with these characters, but that can change based on how fun they look.

 

[bountyhunta87]

I've viewed Snapchat videos much more than 5 minutes after they were uploaded... Just to verify I just watched a snapchat vid that I watched several hours ago.

But that's because I'm following that person. Does it always delete after 5 mins when you directly send it to someone? I also thought I remember viewing videos multiple times after more than 5 minutes when someone sent me a video.

Usually when you delete a dangerous leak it's beacuse it's catching on, fearing you might get cought and by that time we could have gotten a lot more screen shots but still... why snap chat why not just a simple photo?

 

[AreJay25]

So, just wondering, what does Vergeben himself think of this leak? Any word from him?

Nope, dude's been silent for a while now.

 

[Jigglymaster]

It may be easy to modify, but

That Shrek is from existing material, maybe the other extra characters as well; this guy had to make his own paintings that fit the mural, and spend his time printing it on an armband, and getting it ready with the plastic, slit, glue and all.

My friend also spent 10 minutes on this LMAO. Im sure you can get far more done with a month's worth of work.